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Could a grave danger be lurking in your home? If you believe the headlines, you know that catching the Superbug can have deadly consequences, but should you be concerned? How can you spot the danger, and what can you do to stay safe? Dr. Phil gets to the bottom of these questions and others. Melissa's son, Mark, was just 13 when he went to the hospital and wound up with MRSA, also known as the Superbug. Learn about Melissa’s tragic loss and why she thinks her son’s death could have been prevented. Then, 19-year-old Stephanie has been battling the Superbug for almost a year. Get a firsthand account of her experience with the disease, and find out what advice her doctor gave her that has Dr. Phil shocked and concerned. Even doctors aren’t immune to the Superbug. Dr. Drew O’Neal had an accident while on vacation, and what happened next changed his life forever. He shares his valuable insights as both doctor and patient. Plus, two years ago, Glen was your average sophomore playing on his high school football team -- until he contracted the Superbug right from the team’s locker room. Find out what important lessons he learned that could help protect you and your children from the disease. And renowned pediatrician Dr. Jim Sears weighs in with the latest information and shows off products to keep on hand that could save your life. Join the discussion.

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April 1, 2008, 9:27 am PDT

You are so right!

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My husband is a physician and we have known about MRSA and other antibiotic resistant bacterea and staff infections for years.  I always try to educate my friends about the proper use of antibiotics which has a lot to do with why these "bugs"  have grown in resistance and become "superbugs" .  Patients often DEMAND antibiotics for every cold or sore throat.  They are uneducated that antibiotics don't help with viruses.  More important is that the doctors give in to them because they simply don't have the time to explain microbiology to them and they don't want to lose patients.  Basically, we all need to start using antibiotics responsibly.  I believe it starts with the educated...that is the doctors who should know better than to give out antibiotics like water.

I worked in the health care system for years, many of them in a pharmacy that was attached to a doctor's office.  This was in the mid 70s to the mid 80s. Antibiotics were dispensed by these doctors (who were D.O.s rather than M.D.s) like candy, and the patient compliance was terrible. Most of the time, they had a virus, which is unaffected by an antibiotic. But when they did have a bacteria based illness, as soon as they started feeling better, they'd stop taking the antibiotics, which would then cause the bug to mutate and come back with a vengeance! As I would dispense these drugs, I would try my best to educate the patient as to the importance of continuing to take the prescription until it was GONE....but, it was like spitting into the wind, for the most part....and, sure enough, the patient would be back in the doctor's office within two weeks for yet another, stronger antibiotic.

 

This careless dispensing of antibiotics years ago by doctors buckling under the pressure of the patient, is a major cause of the bacterium resistance we are dealing with now. It's one reason we have "super bugs" in the first place!

 

Doctors need to be in control of the medications; not the patient!

 

And, patients: if you don't see your doctor wash his or her hands before touching you, don't be afraid to ask them to do so! 

 
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April 1, 2008, 9:33 am PDT

04/01 The Superbug

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I contracted MRSA in June of 2007.  At first I thought it was an ingrown hair, but within a week the swelling went from about a 1/2" in diameter to about 10" in diameter.  I went to the hospital b/c I had a fever and the pain was so severe I couldn't even walk.  They told me I was in early sepsis and if I hadn't came in when I did, they would have admitted me.  They drained it, I was put on antibiotics, and in about a week I was fine.  I wasn't even told it was MRSA while I was at the hospital.  I found out b/c I work in the hospital and I checked my own lab work.

 

About two months later my 9 month old daughter contracted it in her diaper area.  It started out as diaper rash and within about two days I knew it was MRSA.  I took her to the pediatrician and they drained it in the office.  She also was put on antibiotics and was fine in about a week.  Then about another 3 months later she contracted it again.  This time I took her to Children's hospital and she went through the same thing again.  Both of these times I was never told it was MRSA, they just told me they were going to treat it like it was MRSA.  The doctor at Children's hospital just told me to make sure I clean my bath tub with bleach. 

 

I take my scrubs off immediately after I get home from work, I put them in a separate basket and wash them separately from everyone else's clothes.  I take showers and I constantly wash my hands(at home and at work).  My house is always clean.  I wasn't sure what I needed to be doing different and I felt like I wasn't ever clean enough.   

 

I contracted it again in February of 2008.  I knew what it was as soon as it showed up.  I went and had it taken care of again.  I couldn't figure out how me and my daughter keep getting it, but my husband hasn't had it once.  Then the doctor told me that some people are more susceptible than others.  He told me that pretty much everyone carries the bacteria, but all it takes is for it to find one little cut or scratch to get inside of the body at start causing problems.

 

I am so glad that Dr. Phil did a show on MRSA.  People need to be more aware of MRSA.  I found out first hand that it grows very quickly and you shouldn't wait around to see if it will get better on its own.  I was very sick when I went to the hospital the first time and I am just grateful that I went when I did.  I was also grateful to know not to wait around with my daughter.  Having these things drained is like torture and I hope and pray everyday that me and my daughter will not have to go through this again.   

Sorry I accidentally hit the post button too many times:)

 
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April 1, 2008, 9:36 am PDT

04/01 The Superbug

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I worked in the health care system for years, many of them in a pharmacy that was attached to a doctor's office.  This was in the mid 70s to the mid 80s. Antibiotics were dispensed by these doctors (who were D.O.s rather than M.D.s) like candy, and the patient compliance was terrible. Most of the time, they had a virus, which is unaffected by an antibiotic. But when they did have a bacteria based illness, as soon as they started feeling better, they'd stop taking the antibiotics, which would then cause the bug to mutate and come back with a vengeance! As I would dispense these drugs, I would try my best to educate the patient as to the importance of continuing to take the prescription until it was GONE....but, it was like spitting into the wind, for the most part....and, sure enough, the patient would be back in the doctor's office within two weeks for yet another, stronger antibiotic.

 

This careless dispensing of antibiotics years ago by doctors buckling under the pressure of the patient, is a major cause of the bacterium resistance we are dealing with now. It's one reason we have "super bugs" in the first place!

 

Doctors need to be in control of the medications; not the patient!

 

And, patients: if you don't see your doctor wash his or her hands before touching you, don't be afraid to ask them to do so! 

If you read my message carefully (other than the fact I misspelled staph), you will see that I am blaming both the patient AND the physician but mostly the physicians because they should know better than to dispense antibiotics like they dispense lollipops.

 

I believe, like you, that we need to educate everyone. 

 
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April 1, 2008, 9:56 am PDT

Thank You for talking about this

I have had MRSA for 3 years now..my HMO would not admit it until I had a total of 42 surgeries in the last 3 years due to this horrible disease. I was the fastest and first to date to get permanent disability because of this disease. The smallest cyst I have had was the size of a business card. I have scars all over me. I have been basically sick for a long time. I got this disease from being open on a operating table. I dont qualify for the Vancomyicin treatment because this disease is fairly new and 3 years ago when I got this they had no idea what it was. At that time I spent 6 months laying on my stomach, because of the cysts. I used to be very successful and made tons of money at my job but now I am confined to my home due to this horrible disease. I have been in contact with the CDC there is nothing I can do at this point I have had it too long. The CDC went to congress and said this is the Cockaroach of Bacteria. This disease has ruined my life. I can only pay my rent and have $100 left from the money I get from the government. I cant work at all - the only thing I can do is try to deal with this condition on a daily basis. Thanks for doing a show about this. I see on TV that it has attacked schools and they go and hazmat the place but once the kids go back to school the disease is back you cant clean up after this bacteria it just waits for the next victim and you can have it for a while and not even know it.
 
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April 1, 2008, 10:09 am PDT

MRSA

This horrible bug was introduced into my family on vacation 2 years ago.  YOU NEVER KNOW WHERE IT CAN BE LURKING. We were staying in a upscale $3000 a week condo. The condo had a lazy river with the round tubes for you to relax on as you float around the river.  I had been on one of those tubes for at least an hour. My favorite way to float was on my stomach. The next morning I had a pimple on my abdomen right where my stomach was on the tube. By the time I returned home from vacation I was so sick and the pimple had turned into a 1/2 inch open wound with a swollen area around it about the size of an orange it was red and hot and had a fatty white circle around the open area. My doctor tested it for MRSA and sure enough thats what it was. She lanced it (very painful because no matter how much they try to numb it due to the PH/acid in the infection it neutralizes the numbing medicine so I felt every cut of the blade). She gave me two powerful antibiotics and sent me on my way. I do know she had to report it to local authorities (maybe DEHEC I dont know).It did finally go away and then 6 months later I had a pimple on my face (cheek). and my son had one show up on the same spot on his abdomen that my first one was. He was able to take the antibiotics and it went away. I on the other hand had to have my cheek lanced and packed with a good bit of gauze due to the amount of infection they had removed. I had to pull an inch a day out of the wound and cut it until all was gone along with taking more antibiotics. This one did finally go away. Then my husband had one on his growin area (testicle area). This had to be the worse out of all of us because dispite the antibiotics it continued to grow. He was in so much pain he begged the staff In the ER to cut it open. He wanted some relief. But due to the location they would not lance and drain it, they said there were too much anatomy to go cutting there. They gave him pain meds and gave him shots of anitbiotics. It took awhile but it finally healed. Then a couple of months later I had one come up in my nose and before I could even think if it was MRSA I called the doctor and said its happening again. He put me on a different antibiotic and thankfully we headed it off this time. No lancing or draining. Unfortunatly I have Multiple Sclerosis which causes me to have a lowered immune system so the fear of MRSA taking my life at some point is a scarry thought. The other scarry thought is that no matter how safe you think you are from something like this ( staying in an upscale condo thinking they keep up with cleaning/safety first) you can pick it up. It makes you want to sterilize everything before you touch it. I know that I brought it home from that lazy river tube. You never know...
 
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April 1, 2008, 10:23 am PDT

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Quote From: cndrlla

I worked in the health care system for years, many of them in a pharmacy that was attached to a doctor's office.  This was in the mid 70s to the mid 80s. Antibiotics were dispensed by these doctors (who were D.O.s rather than M.D.s) like candy, and the patient compliance was terrible. Most of the time, they had a virus, which is unaffected by an antibiotic. But when they did have a bacteria based illness, as soon as they started feeling better, they'd stop taking the antibiotics, which would then cause the bug to mutate and come back with a vengeance! As I would dispense these drugs, I would try my best to educate the patient as to the importance of continuing to take the prescription until it was GONE....but, it was like spitting into the wind, for the most part....and, sure enough, the patient would be back in the doctor's office within two weeks for yet another, stronger antibiotic.

 

This careless dispensing of antibiotics years ago by doctors buckling under the pressure of the patient, is a major cause of the bacterium resistance we are dealing with now. It's one reason we have "super bugs" in the first place!

 

Doctors need to be in control of the medications; not the patient!

 

And, patients: if you don't see your doctor wash his or her hands before touching you, don't be afraid to ask them to do so! 

I've rarely been in a condition where I needed antibiotics, But, I always took them as directed, until they were gone. Maybe that's why I get so few infections.
 
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April 1, 2008, 11:57 am PDT

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It would have been a general post except for the parting shot about blaming everyone instead of dealing with grief or however she worded it. Go back and read it, it's extremely obvious! All I was saying was that she had some helpful info but she could have been a little more empathetic about this person's grief. What is so wrong with empathy anymore? AS I also said this other person had been very rude but I could empathize due to the circumstances. Actually, people need to be way more careful about who they point out is being rude. I know, I was trying to get from a restaurant to my car and couldn't get through a group of 20 or so people who were talking outside. When I had finally passed through I decided ti tell them in a polite and normal tone that it was rude of them to block the way. Boy was that the wrong thing to do! I had said it in a manner to where they had an out like pretending they didn't realize it or they could have just said "sorry" or whatever but instead they blew up. Here I am, a disabled woman with her car parked right in front of them in the disabled spot and the men (about 10 of them) started screaming at me and surrounded me and were VERY intimidating. I have to assume they had been drinking, they certainly acted like it. They were screaming horrible, rude and very hurtful things to me. I'm 5'9" and a size 12, I used to be a size 8 until the disability 8 years ago and they told me if I wasn't so fat that I could have gotten through without any problem. That really hurt, I can't help that I carry extra weight now. Anyway, the cops were called and I'm the one who got in trouble because it was 20 peoples word against mine. I now owe the court $2000.00 for disorderly conduct and am on probation for 2 years. It has been a nightmare! I know that I got off the point here but I decided to tell my story so others can learn from it. I happened to be under a tremendous amount of stress and extremely depressed when it occurred. No matter what, if someone says or does something rude just shine it on, it's so not worth going through what I have been going through just because people are rude. If you think you have problems now just wait until you wind up in court  because you let someone get to you at the wrong time. I know that it's a very ugly world out there and I always felt that if someone didn't stand up for what's right it's just going to get worse. Well, standing up for what is right really tore me down. It just wasn't worth it. So please, when you see someone sneeze on an apple just remember to wash your fruit and forget about it, you don't need the extra stress. LET IT GO! Please!
That is simply not how some people communicate...and that is ok.
 
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April 1, 2008, 12:17 pm PDT

mrsa

i am a forty seven year old widow who just lost my husband dec 27.2007 from mrsa my husband was operated on 5 times in the elbow and acquired mrsa in the hospital he was treated and they thought it was colonized and ended up killing him

 

 
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April 1, 2008, 12:20 pm PDT

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I had MRSA in my ring finger last fall. It swelled twice normal size and was extremely painful. I had to have the finger lanced a couple of times to have the infection drained and take a massive amount of the only nasty antibiotic that works to fight the disease. While it was uncomfortable, the doctors acted like it wasn't a big deal at all. I have no idea how I got it but the nurse told me I may just have been one of the few people (they said 1 in 10,000) that had the virus on their skin.

Yes, MRSA can be a big deal but I have been told that I should be fine and its not something to worry about.

I hope they're right but the news coverage has scared me!
 
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April 1, 2008, 12:28 pm PDT

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I have to weigh in on todays subject as I have seen how this is spread. My grandmother was in a nursing home and became MRSA positive after a trip to the hospital. There where warning posted on her door to wear gloves when handling her. Most nurses took a very lack attitude about this bug. I over heard some of them taking about the MRSA saying they don't see the big deal as most people carry it anyway.  I went to visit her one day and on her bathroom vanity is her commode bucket ( she had MRSA in her bladder)

She shared this bathroom with another lady. Next to the bucket was her tooth brush. 

I have also seen nurses that cared for my  in the grocery store when they get off their shift. They would be wearing their nursing clothes and shoes. I am no doctor but I see this as a problem. 

The night my grandmother died she had to be suctioned to help her breath the nurse that did it did so with out gloves. When she finished she left the room without even washing her hands.

One othe area that is a comcern is that therapy dogs that visit hospitals can carry this bug ( It is unclear whether they can transfer it) The dog that often visited my grandmother was tested and found to be positive for MRSA.

So many people don't get this bug at home they get it at the hospital. In my experience it is the staff at the hospital that spread this, Education is needed and stiff penalities for any staff that don't follow the precations

well that is my two cents worth

Lisa

 
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