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Could a grave danger be lurking in your home? If you believe the headlines, you know that catching the Superbug can have deadly consequences, but should you be concerned? How can you spot the danger, and what can you do to stay safe? Dr. Phil gets to the bottom of these questions and others. Melissa's son, Mark, was just 13 when he went to the hospital and wound up with MRSA, also known as the Superbug. Learn about Melissa’s tragic loss and why she thinks her son’s death could have been prevented. Then, 19-year-old Stephanie has been battling the Superbug for almost a year. Get a firsthand account of her experience with the disease, and find out what advice her doctor gave her that has Dr. Phil shocked and concerned. Even doctors aren’t immune to the Superbug. Dr. Drew O’Neal had an accident while on vacation, and what happened next changed his life forever. He shares his valuable insights as both doctor and patient. Plus, two years ago, Glen was your average sophomore playing on his high school football team -- until he contracted the Superbug right from the team’s locker room. Find out what important lessons he learned that could help protect you and your children from the disease. And renowned pediatrician Dr. Jim Sears weighs in with the latest information and shows off products to keep on hand that could save your life. Join the discussion.

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April 1, 2008, 7:47 pm PDT

MRSA

My 17 year old son had MRSA  one year ago. The doctors felt because he was an athlete he probably got it from the weight room at school. The doctors thought he was probably 2 days from death, if it wasn't for the quick initiative of the first physician that saw him to start him on 3 different antibiotics to cover the "gammet" of possible infections he could have while we waited for the 2 days for the lab results. Once we got the results-only one of the antibiotics he was taking was actually affective on his infection. He was already resistant to 6 antibiotics--he had never had an antibiotic in his life! Also as a junior in high school he had never missed a day of school in his life either. He was in incredible pain, could barely walk and laid on his stomach for 2 weeks since the little pimple had grown to the size of a football and now the redness wrapped around his leg!

Three weeks later he was cleared to go back to school and participate in sports. But 2 weeks after that he had 2 more bumps develop on his hip and shin. Upon going back to the doctor immediately they said he still had MRSA and began new series of the antibiotic he wasn't resistant to. We began to wonder if we have to worry about this our whole life! Upon our insistance we met twice with an Infection Control Doctor. She said it is present everywhere and we will here about it more and more. As you mentioned people are carriers and some have it in their nasal passages normally. Washing your hands thoroughly is very important! Don't share towels or razors etc. Our son also has a prescription for "Bactroban" creme that he puts on any scrap, bite, bump etc at the first notice.  It was a very scary time for our family and it is a constant concern. Nothing to take lightly!!!!

 
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April 1, 2008, 7:56 pm PDT

MRSA NO JOKING MATTER

My  Family has just got over this crazy illness. We have had it for about 5 yrs now. Living in our nose without even knowing it yet. I am still not sure if i got it from having my two c-sections with my daughters but they have always got it and my husband and I.  Until recently our doctor finally decided this was serious. That is the problem with the doctors in  this world they are not educated enough to even tell you whats going on. you can find out more on the internet.  But.. the doctor prescribed us  Mupirocin ointment USP, 2% to put in our nose 3-5 times a day. A week later we had our nose cultured today i got the result and the tests were negative. I am hoping we dont get it again. We disinfected our whole house top to bottom. Bath tubs full of toys and other things. Over 100 dollars spent on lysol and other products. Disinfected the carpet steam cleaned it also and threw out our couch in hopes that if it is in there we are doing the right thing. also threw away a lot of our kids toys. It is better for them to have a few things and still have there lives rather then play with infected toys. So we are hoping that this stays away for good. More people need to know about it. I just thank god we lived with this in our nose for all these years and kept getting boils and nothing to serious happened.  Carry hand sanitizer every where you go and wash your hands!!
 
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April 1, 2008, 7:56 pm PDT

04/01 The Superbug

I am not a doctor and I would never presume to diagnose anyone. But I know how depressing it can be to have staph or MRSA. I thought it would never clear up and I would never be comfortable or be able to wear shorts again since it attacked my upper legs. I checked out the spice Turmeric and it worked for me. I'm not going to say it will work for everyone but it might be something to look in to if you are suffering like I was. It's been two months since I've tried it and I've been clear ever since.
 
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April 1, 2008, 8:09 pm PDT

Superbug Infected our Newborn Baby

Two days after bringing my son home from the hospital the doctor noticed he had a staph infection (Impetigo) near the belly button.  It was treated with antibitotics and we were told it was healed.  At a month and a half old my son was very lethargic and we took him to the doctor and were told it was the stomach flu.  A few days later we returned because he was not any better and his face was now red all-over, and we were told to head to the ER.  It took two days of many antibitotics failling and the staph spreading burns throughout his body at our local hospital until they realized they didn't know what he had, and they moved us to a larger hospital.  After a long week of watching our son slowly spread this 'Superbug' all over, and a ton of pediactric and infected skin disease staff to evaluate his condition around the clock, finally a swab of bacteria taken days before grew so that we learned that he had MSRA Scalded Skin Syndrome.  Has anyone ever heard of this specific strand of staph?  We are very lucky that the antibitotics caught up to fight off the disease, but now we are also wondering about how this was contracted and if it can return?  We were told by the doctors that it was 'bad luck' and that since everyone has staph on their skin at some point, there wasn't much we can do in the future to prevent this from occurring again.

 
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April 1, 2008, 8:18 pm PDT

thank you

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My 17 year old son had MRSA  one year ago. The doctors felt because he was an athlete he probably got it from the weight room at school. The doctors thought he was probably 2 days from death, if it wasn't for the quick initiative of the first physician that saw him to start him on 3 different antibiotics to cover the "gammet" of possible infections he could have while we waited for the 2 days for the lab results. Once we got the results-only one of the antibiotics he was taking was actually affective on his infection. He was already resistant to 6 antibiotics--he had never had an antibiotic in his life! Also as a junior in high school he had never missed a day of school in his life either. He was in incredible pain, could barely walk and laid on his stomach for 2 weeks since the little pimple had grown to the size of a football and now the redness wrapped around his leg!

Three weeks later he was cleared to go back to school and participate in sports. But 2 weeks after that he had 2 more bumps develop on his hip and shin. Upon going back to the doctor immediately they said he still had MRSA and began new series of the antibiotic he wasn't resistant to. We began to wonder if we have to worry about this our whole life! Upon our insistance we met twice with an Infection Control Doctor. She said it is present everywhere and we will here about it more and more. As you mentioned people are carriers and some have it in their nasal passages normally. Washing your hands thoroughly is very important! Don't share towels or razors etc. Our son also has a prescription for "Bactroban" creme that he puts on any scrap, bite, bump etc at the first notice.  It was a very scary time for our family and it is a constant concern. Nothing to take lightly!!!!

My daughter has more of an opportunity to watch show, today I'm glad she did.  We have experienced something similiar with my daughter here at home.  I'm guessing next we'll be seeing the doctor again once again thank for this episode
 
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April 1, 2008, 8:22 pm PDT

Hospital infections

  My wife, sister inlaw, both daughters, and my grand daughter, all have Polysystic kidney disease. This is an inherated disease with no cure. This puts us in a position of being in most of the major hospitals in the Detroit Michigan area for 44 years . The sad part of our experance comes with the fact that the hospitals are saving money by cutting back on the cost of cleaning the patients room and the building in general. I have had ocassion to talk with the cleaning staff while waiting for the wife's cat scan in the wee hours of the morning before the big shots arrive. Thet told me that the hospital was cutting back 50% of the cleaning crew and were trying to reduce this staff by another 30% in the next few years.  We have had the experance of being admitted to a room with the toilet covered in excrement and toilet paper ( used ) on the floor. We went to the head nurse and they wanted us to clean it for them. No, they were going to do it now. You should have seen the angry looks we got for getting the cleaners in trouble for not doing the job they were being paid to do. Lazy staff and cuts in money for cleaning crews are a very real reason that infections are a very real problem today at all hospitals. These are the most respected hospitals in our state.  If in Detroit, Ann Arbor, or the surrounding areait is all the same. Patients beware.  
 
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April 1, 2008, 8:25 pm PDT

I'm so sorry..........

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     I am soo sorry about your loss!! I am an EMT and we hear about this Superbug all the time and we are always taking the steps to make sure everything is clean and disinfected! It is scary for all of us to know this bug is getting worse out there! I have a 14yr old, an 8yr old and a 17mo old and this scares the crud right out of me to think about my oldest one will be out there playing football and other sports having the chance of being in contact with this Superbug. Well I will keep you and your family in our prayers! I guess I am the kind of person that I would sue them because I feel that they should have done more, more tests to see if it was still in his body. I know you have an 11yr old to consider, but you also have to have means to take care of him. If this happened to your husband at their mistake, you didnt ask for that, you have to think of you and your son! I know what has been done has been done, but this is something that will live with you forever and I think hospitals, doctors, nurses, ect should take this sooo much more seriously than they are, because of them not doing so, they are costing people their lives! Well I wish you the best of luck with all of this no matter what you decide to do! I have a company that invests in people who have lawsuits-it helps them to pay their bills,ect while they await their trial-its something to consider-if your interested in helping to get your bills and your living expenses while you fight this let me know, and even if you need an attorney! Oh i guess u would need my email addy too: k2tall77@hotmail.com  . I wish you and your family alot of luck, and give you all prayers too! Take Care!
What an unsettling story. My husband had a hip replaced in August about 2 years ago and was just recovering from mrsa before it was done. Due to some heart problems that he has he was very lucky to survive this awful bug. I was disabled by a surgeon and didn't sue but now I wish that I had. We are in financial ruin and I will suffer forever from what she has done to me. If you decide to sue look for a large firm who can afford to hire experts and do it on a contingency basis. It's always on a contingency basis but finding an attorney who will take the case may be hard. It's worth pursuing. The hospitals and even more the doctors need to take responsibility for their gross negligence. It at the very least needs to be on their record. I wish you the very best and am very sorry for your loss. Sincerely, jewels
 
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April 1, 2008, 8:27 pm PDT

my daughter & mrsa pneumonia

Last February my 6 year old daughter was diagnosed with strep and the flu at the same time.  Two days later I felt there was something else wrong with her because she had just become more and more sick. My husband and I took her down to the Childrens Hopital to get her checked out.  When we arrived they immediately checked her oxygen level and rushed her for a chest x-ray.  Her x-ray showed that she had a complete white out in her right lung.  The right lung was completely full of fluid and actually seaping out into the outer sack of the lung.  Her left lung looked okay but they could see where she was starting to get some fluid build up in it too.  We were so blessed to have a Doctor who recognized that this was not a regular case of pneumonia and started her on Vancomycin before they knew for sure if it was mrsa like he suspected.  Two or three days later, after they put a chest tube in, the test results confirmed that she did have mrsa pneumonia.  Apparently this is rare among children and what made it even more puzzling is the fact that she never had an infected cut or scrape on her skin.  We have no idea how she got this pneumonia other than she did have a weakened immune system due to the strep and the flu.  She spent 15 days in the hospital (5 in picu) and lost 11 pounds.  We are so blessed to have our little girl with us today.  She recovered much faster than anyone anticipated and is doing very well.  I am very nervous when she gets sick now because nobody has been able to tell us if she is more likely to come down with mrsa again now that she has had it once.  Does anyone know the answer to this?  How do we know if the Vancomycin and Clydamycin totally got rid of the mrsa? 
 
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April 1, 2008, 8:30 pm PDT

How would you deal with this scenario?

My father contracted MRSA recently through an IV in the hospital.  He had an open wound that oozed on his forearm for about 3 weeks.  Finally, he realized that antibiotics were ineffective on it and he had to go and get the tissue cut out.  Right now, he is about 3 days out of that surgery and has his arm wrapped up and is on antibiotics.  I'm assuming at this point that the Doctor's think they have gotten all of the infected tissue from his arm and are hoping antibiotics are going to prevent it from happening again.

 

My concern is that we spend a lot of time with him.  We eat at his home weekly, and my three very young kids love to climb all over him and play.  How concerned should I be about my kids contracting this?  Right now he has an open wound that is bandaged.  Should we steer clear until it heals?  If we are around him how much contact should kids have with him if any?  My oldest son has really bad exzema on his legs.  If he has scratched his leg and it is bleeding, can he contact MRSA by just being in the house with my Dad or would he actually have to have skin to skin contact with the wound? 

 

Based on the rest of the messages, I 'm thinking that we need to regularly wash hands and surfaces.  But is this only when they  have an open wound, or should special attention always be made to be sure that surfaces are wiped down with Lysol?  If food and stuff is prepared at his home, are we safe to go and eat there?  (He would not be preparing it?)  

 

Obviously I am super concerned about exposing any one else in our family to this, however, I also love my father and I don't want to treat him like a leper and not spend the same amount of time with him if it isnt' warranted. 

 

To sum it up, if you currently have someone recovering with a MRSA surgery and who is in the initial phase of antibiotics, what precautions should be made to prevent exposure.  What would it take to contract the disease? Should my son with Exzema completely stay away, or can he be in his presence without touching and be ok? Do the risk go away when his wound is healed over?   

 

If anyone has any answers for any of these questions, I would truly love some input.

 

Thanks!

 
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April 1, 2008, 8:31 pm PDT

IF THE STANDART MEDICAL ANTIBIOTICS FAIL

   May I talk about GARLIC that you can (purchase in a grocery store) and it's proven ANTIBIOTIC effect and ANTI VIRAL effects on the body.I say scientific because Millions of dollars have been spent on the study of garlic.As a child in the 1960's I was very sceptical as my grandmother would make medical claims about the healing power of ordinary smelly garlic from the grocery store.Then in the early 1990's I heard scientic claims from medical studies that have now made me a convert.When Garlic was put in medical dishes containing Bacteria the Garlic killed every tpye of bacteria.It appears that the only reason that doctors can't reconmend that you take several cloves of __FRESH uncooked Garlic__ for an Antibiotic is that it's _NOT_ recognized as an approved FDA drug.Although,I've come to understand that Garlic was used as an Antibiotic by the Russians durring  WW 11to treat infections.A word of caution to any patient that wishes to use it medically to treat infection #1)TELL your doctor that you plan to take 5 fresh cloves of Garlic in the AM and 5 more again in the PM .[ in combination with his treatments]. If Garlic odor is a problem then take __KWAI Garlic Tabs ___that they use in scientific studies due to consistency of it's strength.KWAI is sold in most HEALTH FOOD STORES or on the internet.A possible side effect of KWAI Tabs is constupation that may occur from the binding adgents in the Tabs. 2) Never assume that all Herbs and plants are safe because many deaths occur every year from pharmacy perscriptions that are mixed with supposedly harmless herbs from the local Health Food store.Now I'll tell you about my experience with Garlic and INFECTION.Years ago,my wife was getting reacurring face infections and her Doctor wanted to put her on Antibiotics.I new that the Antibiotics would work but __continuous use of antibiotics__ also kill the good bacteria in your diggestive track that we all require for healthy diggestion.I did my research and suggested Garlic but he is required by law to order standard Antibiotics.Can't blame a him because he could lose his license if he made such a reconmendation but I wanted to tell him what we were planning to test out due to my research.We tried the Standard Antibiotics for 10 days and the Infection was cleared up.Then two months later the face infection returned so she took now tried 5 KWAI white Garlic tabs and 5 Tabs in the PM.Raw uncooked Garlic cloves are best but she wanted to avoid breathe odour {DUE TO HER PUBLIC RELATIONS JOB} Anyways just like the standard Antibiotic drugs she used the Garlic worked and 10 days later she was infection free.Had her stop the Garlic Tabs and about 2 months later her skin infections returned.The next time she stayed on the 10 Tabs a day for 12 months and wiped the infection out completely.That was 10 years ago and no more reacurring face infections..I had to pass on this info because of that 18 year old girl that can no longer tolerate antibiotics but doesn't wish to live in fear and feel powerless.My SINGLE EXPERIENCE doesn't prove anything conclusively in science world but it's worth a try.Hopefully the MRSA will not be able to resist the compounds of Garlic that nature has created with perfection.It could take 12  months or perhaps even years to completely clear the MSRA out of your body ? I would suggest you stay close to your doctor and do constant medical visits for proper medical testing to see if the infection is clearing up over the next year so. LAST CAUTION [People under 16 can NOT tolerate ___large amounts___ of Garlic - please consult a Pediatritian !]
 
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