Topic : 04/01 The Superbug

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Could a grave danger be lurking in your home? If you believe the headlines, you know that catching the Superbug can have deadly consequences, but should you be concerned? How can you spot the danger, and what can you do to stay safe? Dr. Phil gets to the bottom of these questions and others. Melissa's son, Mark, was just 13 when he went to the hospital and wound up with MRSA, also known as the Superbug. Learn about Melissa’s tragic loss and why she thinks her son’s death could have been prevented. Then, 19-year-old Stephanie has been battling the Superbug for almost a year. Get a firsthand account of her experience with the disease, and find out what advice her doctor gave her that has Dr. Phil shocked and concerned. Even doctors aren’t immune to the Superbug. Dr. Drew O’Neal had an accident while on vacation, and what happened next changed his life forever. He shares his valuable insights as both doctor and patient. Plus, two years ago, Glen was your average sophomore playing on his high school football team -- until he contracted the Superbug right from the team’s locker room. Find out what important lessons he learned that could help protect you and your children from the disease. And renowned pediatrician Dr. Jim Sears weighs in with the latest information and shows off products to keep on hand that could save your life. Join the discussion.

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April 3, 2008, 1:58 pm PDT

MRSA

Since I have had experience in the treating of diseases that are caused by viruses and bacteria, I have had the opportunity to work with these problems.  When my daughter was two years old and had an inner ear infection.  At that time, we lived in central Kansas and my brother was the only doctor within 50 miles.  He prescribed for my daughter different antibiotics and had exhausted all the possibilities.  He even used some of the antiobiotics contra indicated for children  this age.  She would seemingly get over that infection and immediately have another episode.  I knew if I didn't do something drastic soon my daughter would die with this infection.   We started using some methods including hydrotherapy, diet and life style changes.   We used these methods for the entire family and introduced others to them.  We are not against antibiotics when necessary but have found that we can affect a very favorable change in illness before antibiotics are necessary.  We have had very good luck with the eradication of bacterial infections,  viruses such as mononucleosis, flu, and some cancer.  These treatments have been used in many years past as in the polio epidemic.  The first ways to work with illness is through prevention, increased immune systems and hydrotherapy.  Then when the antibiotics are necessary use them. 

 
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April 3, 2008, 3:00 pm PDT

MRSA I live in country bumpkin ville

I had a historectomy and bladder lift 13 months ago, since then I have had to have what they called an abess from my abdonmen, 4 different lumps have been cut out of legs, armpits and breast.  How do I know if I am safe?  Would my doctor here in nowwhere land look for something like that????
 
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April 3, 2008, 3:26 pm PDT

where to look

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I had a historectomy and bladder lift 13 months ago, since then I have had to have what they called an abess from my abdonmen, 4 different lumps have been cut out of legs, armpits and breast.  How do I know if I am safe?  Would my doctor here in nowwhere land look for something like that????
I looked on the internet, and got the doc involved.  I also researched groups on yahoo and got into micro electricity germ killing, which lessened the time of healing.  We fought long and hard.
 
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April 3, 2008, 3:31 pm PDT

silver and microelectricity

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I Had MRSA and my wound was packed with silver cell and It really helped the healing and kept the infection from getting worse!
It worked for me, the old time  collodial silver which I make myself and also made a  micro electricitity rig to kill the bacteria.
 
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April 3, 2008, 4:16 pm PDT

04/01 The Superbug

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I personally like the idea of organic fruits and vegetables but it isn't practical to think that the farmers could feed the world growing their produce that way. The crops have to be mass produced or the world would go hungry. And field workers? Well, I'm certainly not crazy about the idea of that either but there is a practical side to it also. First I want to say that they come over here and get free medical, use other family members SSN's and a bunch of other stuff like that which takes a toll on the USA's finances but think about it. Who will work the fields if they don't? That is awful, back breaking, hot work. It is in fact the lowest form of employment in this country. I happen to know quite a bit about this subject because my husband is the #1 Supervisor for a produce company. He has worked in produce management all of his life and he is 59 years old. We've been married for over 20 years. He supervises the shipping, he walks the fields, he does just about everything but sell the stuff and pick it of course. I also worked with someone who was born in Mexico and she told me that she picked produce for awhile and it is so hard that she would never do that again.  I don't understand why the illegal aliens don't just get a green card to work here legally. That baffles me. And about the trashy sneezing, yes that's pretty gross but I think the most important thing everyone can do to stop so many of the awful germs being passed such as e-coli is to wash their hands after using the bathroom. Here we are in the year 2008 and after all of the programs on TV like 60 minutes, etc, and the nightly news reporting this, how come there are so many people that are still not getting it?!!!!!! I don't get it!!!!! That is just so gross and such a simple thing to do. Back when I worked I would see women that I worked with use the bathroom, come out of the stall, groom their hair and prance right out the door. Lipstick yes, hands no. Why is this so hard to do?
Americans have lost other than produce-picking jobs to Mexicans. Such as those in construction work. A man, who spent years building chicken houses, lost his job to Mexicans. Who, he says, are willing to work for very little because every US dollar is worth $10 in Mexico. Most of what they make gets sent to family still living in Mexico, he says.
 
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April 3, 2008, 7:08 pm PDT

possible options

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My 9 year old daughter has CA-MRSA and had one of the larger boils drained and was put on a sulfa-based antibiotic for 14 days.  The boils went away, but over this past weekend another one started to appear on her leg.  It was an oblong welt with a very tiny center and really hot to the thouch.  I had ordered some manuka honey previously, but it didn't arrive before the other boils healed.  I put this honey on a bandage and by the next morning, the boil had a blister on top that we opened and drained.  This was clear fluid, not like the previous boil that drained huge amounts of greenish puss.  The welt went down and it continues to improve daily without any nasty puss.  We have both used bactriban in our noses for the past 5 days (twice a day) hoping to get rid of any colonization in us.  We use lysol around the house for cleaning and spraying and hand sanitizer often.  Having a clean environment may help, but this stuff is everywhere.  Also, my daughter had no noticeable open wounds that this staff had access to. 

 

I wasn't going to put my daughter on antibiotics again so soon after her last round of treatment with a possible solution other than antibiotics.  I am keeping a close eye on her though.  If it starts to looke worse or she developes a fever, we will seek medical advise promptly.  I have also been looking into allicin (extracted from garlic) for her to take as an internal treatment.

 

Read up on manuka honey and make an informed decision.

I can only say what I have herd and what i was told to do,  I also had this my doctor said to take a bleach bath 2-3 times a week using 1/4 cup  for small baths.  this is not supposed to be any worse than the pool??  I have not tried this,  but hear tea tree oil as a possible help.

 

take care and good luck

 
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April 4, 2008, 8:39 am PDT

A comparison...

I watched the show about the superbug and I and probably a thousand other people would love to have had a doctor also talk about the condition known as 'hydradenitis superlativa' which sounds eerily like what the blond gal has, although I have no medical claim to back that up, only personal experience. This is a condition that has no known cause, no known cure. Thousands live with this condition and antibiotics have proven useless in the treatment of it. It causes severe pain, open raw draining holes in the skin , and acute scarring. Like the superbug, many have never heard of this condition either. I have had this condition for approximately 30 years and was never correctly diagnosed, until about 10 years ago.

 

 

 
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April 4, 2008, 9:34 am PDT

Surgery - Scared

My daughter is going for foot surgery in the next two weeks and I am terrified that there is MRSA in the operating room - Are there certain questions I should ask (aside from the obvious ones) prior to the surgery that can help me ease my mind and decrease the risk of her getting hospital acquired MRSA????
 
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April 4, 2008, 9:46 am PDT

you should be outraged

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I am outraged !!!  I can't believe no one is holding the hospitals accountable for spreading this awful superbug. When I  recently went to visit my best friend in the hospital the nurse told me he has MRSA and VRE.  NO one coming in or out was wearing protective clothing or gloves or washed any equipment or their own hands!!!  I also took my daughter to the doctors office the other day and not the doctor or the nurses washed their hands before of after being in the room. 

People we have to speak up and say something.  Do you really want someone touching you that has touched 100 other sick people that day?  Do you want  medical equipment used on you when you don't know where it's been?  Let's get real!!!! We are all moaning and groaning over the high cost of health care and the care we are getting is laced with superbugs because someone doesn't feel like washing their hands 200 times a day or disinfecting the equipment properly!!!!! 

I understand the superbugs are not only found in the hospital, I understand the types, the schools are disinfecting and teaching the students what to do. Why aren't we speaking up and demanding the same for our doctors, nurses and all health care personnel?

People are suffering needlessly, people are DYING!!!!!

 

I am a Registered Nurse with over 15 years working in ER and Critical Care areas.  Currently disabled and will never be able to work in these areas again.  But the truth about what really goes on in these and other areas is soooo scary.  The most dangerous place you can be when you are ill is in the hospital.
 
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April 4, 2008, 10:16 am PDT

Shame on them?!

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MRSA is not just a hospital issue.  In fact, more patients coming in to our hospital have MRSA on their skin before they are ever admitted.  Many hospitals do screening cultures for MRSA and other organisms.  It is through these screening cultures that we know that community acquired MRSA is a far greater risk than hospital acquired MRSA.  Preventing MRSA  is simple.  Wash your hands or use alcohol based hand sanitizers.  If you are in the hospital, ask your health care workers including your physician to wash their hands.  Also, MRSA is not resistant to all antibiotics.  There are many antibiotics that are effective to treat it.

 

"Control Measures" are mandatory and implemented in all health care facilities.  The reason health care workers wear "hazmat gear" (Personal Protective Equipment) protects everyone from infection including the patient in that bed. 

 

I am disappointed that the show was so negative and lacked good advice on how to protect yourself and others.  You can get MRSA anywhere.  It is at grocery stores, church or anywhere people go.  Bottom line-WASH YOUR HANDS!!!  I don't feel that this show was helpful to educate people about MRSA because it was incomplete.

 

Normal cleaners kill the MRSA bacteria.  Normal cleaning practices are sufficient to protect everyone.

While the medical community, personnel like doctors and nurses are vital to saving lives and deserve  so much recognition for the extremely harsh conditions placed on them by short staffing, they should be ashamed at some of their daily practices.  I guess you have never worked in an Emergency Room where it was filled to compacity and several ambulances arrive and the people who where in the beds where put in wheel chairs, a sheet thrown over the stretcher and a new body (say a trauma victime) is put on.  The waiting room is filled and everyone is complaining that their problem is worse than anyone elses, so after the trauma victime dies they remove the body, a clean sheet is put on the strectcher and someone is gets on the very same stretcher.  This was not my practice but I have been laughed at by other staff including supervisors for disinfecting entire stretchers, as they commented on how "Idealistic" I am, and that is not the "Real World" in the Emergency Room.  The "Real World" in the Emergency Department is how many patients they can treat daily, as that is what counts.  The more bodies that are seen the more money they make.  In my opinion, the entire health care system we currently have should be ashamed, because it is not about giving the best care to individuals or treating them the way they themselves would want to be treated but the almighty dollar.

 
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