Topic : 04/01 The Superbug

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Could a grave danger be lurking in your home? If you believe the headlines, you know that catching the Superbug can have deadly consequences, but should you be concerned? How can you spot the danger, and what can you do to stay safe? Dr. Phil gets to the bottom of these questions and others. Melissa's son, Mark, was just 13 when he went to the hospital and wound up with MRSA, also known as the Superbug. Learn about Melissa’s tragic loss and why she thinks her son’s death could have been prevented. Then, 19-year-old Stephanie has been battling the Superbug for almost a year. Get a firsthand account of her experience with the disease, and find out what advice her doctor gave her that has Dr. Phil shocked and concerned. Even doctors aren’t immune to the Superbug. Dr. Drew O’Neal had an accident while on vacation, and what happened next changed his life forever. He shares his valuable insights as both doctor and patient. Plus, two years ago, Glen was your average sophomore playing on his high school football team -- until he contracted the Superbug right from the team’s locker room. Find out what important lessons he learned that could help protect you and your children from the disease. And renowned pediatrician Dr. Jim Sears weighs in with the latest information and shows off products to keep on hand that could save your life. Join the discussion.

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April 4, 2008, 10:47 am PDT

04/01 The Superbug

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My daughter is going for foot surgery in the next two weeks and I am terrified that there is MRSA in the operating room - Are there certain questions I should ask (aside from the obvious ones) prior to the surgery that can help me ease my mind and decrease the risk of her getting hospital acquired MRSA????

Yes ask about their rate of hospital acquired infections, like HA-MRSA, more than likely the person you are speaking to will not know the awnser but I would suggest asking to speak to the infection contril department at that particular facility. The CDC has on general information about rates of infection (without facility names), you may consult the CDC website for healthcare-associated infections surveillance at www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dhqp/surveillance.html. 

I am also am aware of medicaid changing policies and informing hospitals it will not pay for costs incurred when a hospital aqcuired infection occurs, I say WHAT A GREAT IDEA, what a way to make the hospitals take every precaution nescessary. I dont know how the little average everyday person could put a hospital on such notice when you know you will be recieving care there. Most of their preopperative releases do note risks including infection and we just sign away any recourse we might have had. You might do some calling and find out what hospital has the lowest rate of HA-MRSA cases and just make an educated choice.

  A mom whos daughter got HA-MRSA back east passed a bill requiring hospital in her state to post this information and make it easily availabe to the public. I think all states should pass similar lesilation. If resteraunts have to post their health inspection stickers on the front doors of their establishments so the public is aware of low scores, it lets the public make an educated dinning choice and forces dirty resteraunts to clean up their acts, Hospitals should have to do similarly!

 

 
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April 4, 2008, 11:22 am PDT

MRSA

Since 2003 I have had 5 MRSA infections and I've been told I am now colonized with it.  I believe I got them all from one doctor who had a wound on his hand that wouldn't heal.  (This doctor eventually killed himself as he had other patients who also got MRSA from the same procedure - implanting a pain pump.) 

 

Having MRSA has completely changed my life.  It has impacted my medical condition in ways I never dreamed of.  I've lost two knee replacements for my left knee due to infection and my leg is now fused straight with a metal rod in it.  I also had back surgery in the past but since my infections my back has gotten much worse (also because of my knee problems).  They say my low back needs to be fused but they won't do it because there's a chance that my MRSA could come back and that would, or could, be disasterous.  The doctors now want to amputate my left leg above the knee to see if it might help with my chronic pain, possibly increase my mobility, and take some strain off my back.  Anytime I have surgery I'm at a much higher risk for infection than the average patient.

 

I would give anything if I could go back in time to when I didn't have MRSA in my body but that's not possible.  Thank you, Dr. Phil, for having a show about this awful infection.  I don't feel as alone anymore.

 
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April 4, 2008, 12:31 pm PDT

The Superbug

I first heard of the bug when my daughter contracted it during a routine out patient surgery.  It was scary for all of us at first but she finally got rid of it. I don't really know if it's gone for good, but I do know that I was like the people on the show, very, very frustrated because I could not get the answers I wanted about MRSA. I am still in the dark about her future health, but she's had a baby since then and seems ok.  My advice to everyone out there, do not ignore any sore on your body, even if you think it's nothing. My daughter and I thought her sore was just a pimple on her leg, but we were wrong!

 
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April 4, 2008, 12:36 pm PDT

04/01 The Superbug

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I Had MRSA and my wound was packed with silver cell and It really helped the healing and kept the infection from getting worse!
There is a salve that might help with your lesions.  www.GrandmasBlackSalve.com  Check out the testimonials page.
 
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April 4, 2008, 12:40 pm PDT

Terry is that you? This is Melissa!

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  What is the difference between Resistant staphyloccus and Susceptible staphyloccus.. I understand it to be that the resistant type does not fight off the disese but the susceptible does. Is this ture?

Just wondering!?!  Terry is that you? This is Melissa!
 
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April 4, 2008, 2:26 pm PDT

I can totally relate to Stephanies story

  My twin daughters came down with MRSA the beginning of last school year. They were trying to recieve treatment for ingrown toenails and contracted MRSA durring the process.  To see your eight year old daughters go through this is heartbreaking, they are asking you for anwsers, and you cant give them any, because the doctors dont give you any. I was taking one of my daughters in daily for debridement and packing of abcesses, she would scream the whole time. As a mother of four it takes its toll on the whole family.

 

  I especially remember expressing how confused and tired we were becoming because every time we thought it was gone, it would come back, another bump would appear and she would cry not wanting to go through it all again. I took her to the doctor at the early onset of another bump, and again he perscribed antibiotics( I had been reading fervantly and read the more you use antibiotics the less effective they become.) I was telling the doctor I was becoming terrified, I told him I knew this could be deadly, that the cutanious infections can be treated but when MRSA is in the blood or lungs its deadly, I wanted to know how to prevent it from spreading to the blood or lungs.He had no awnsers for me, I was crying and told him I was terrified, he told me I was over reacting that I just needed to give her the antibiotics as he was directing me to, then he said the most terrible insensitive thing that still angers me to this day, he told me "dont lose any sleep over this little bump she has" I told him "after all we have been thru I am losing sleep, I am worried" to wich he replied" Well Im not going to lose any sleep tonight over it, you shouldnt either!". 

 

  I have gotten so that I feel safer treating my own children at home, and not dealing with health professionals who spread this infection, and who know less than I do about its seriousness, or try to minimize it.  Its a terrible thing to be in this position.  I was taking my children in for treatment and durring visits I would tell them about using bacatrin in our nares to try and "de-colonize" and they would say " well lets try that then", I would tell them about putting a cap full of bleach in bathwater, and they would say "lets try that too." I would tell them about staphaseptic and they would say " sure try that" I would ask questions about how to protect the rest of the family, they would say 'I dont know" I would ask if I should be wearing gloves while attending to their wounds and they would say "it might be a good idea" I was sooo fed up with going to the doctors they were completely useless to me, I MEAN C'MON DID YOU GO TO MEDICAL SCHOOL OR DID I? WHAT WAS I PAYING THEM FOR OTHER THAN CAUSING THIS WHOLE PROBLEM IN THE FIRST PLACE.

 

 With alot of reading and research we have actually done way better at treating this at home than any doctor ever did in the clinic or hospital. I am not a doctor though and I would hate to ever have something happen to my children because of that, I dont know everything, I cant, so what too do, I dont really know. I do however agree with one of the posts on the message boards from a retired nurse who said the LAST place you want to go when you are sick or injured is the hospital. I think we are all going to come to a point where we are going to have to know how to deal with this stuff on our own, its not worth the risk of being exposed to anything else and then having to deal with "medical professional" who havent got a clue.

 
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April 4, 2008, 3:22 pm PDT

MRSA

Thank you for doing a show about this.  People do need to be aware as to how severe this "superbug" is.  I contracted MRSA in 2003 which kept me in the hospital for a month.  I had gone to the ER at night because I broke my foot.  The doctor in the ER didn't use gloves when he examined me and a couple of days later I developed what looked like a blister and I didnt think anything of it at first, thought it was the walking boot I had on irritating the area. But then it started turning black and getting bigger.  I was at an event and my leg started to hurt and a friend of mine who works with the fire department took a look at it and said I needed to get to the hospital immediately. A friend drove me and we sat in the ER for about 3 hours before I was seen.  The hospital staff apologized for keeping me waiting because it was the flesh eating strain of the virus.  Before I knew it I was in a hospital room upstairs waiting to have surgery because it was spreading up my leg.  They told me if it is in the bone that they will have to amputate my leg to save my life.  I was put on Vancomycin, Phenergan, and Dilotted every two hours.  I had 5 doctors as a team to treat me.  It was definitely the most painful experience I've had.  I could feel them pulling out the gauze in the wound where they operated and my 2 karate instructors (who are not wuss's in any way) had to leave the room because they couldnt take it.  I had turned septic from the drugs and they couldnt find what was wrong with me with my symptoms of a fever, constantly throwing up, immense pain and my white blood cell very low.  It was getting so bad that I had to sign my life over to my mother because I was dying.   They changed my meds from vancomycin to clindamycin to see if that would help and if the MRSA had just stopped responding to the other one.  They finally did a nuclear CT scan and it turned out my gall bladder had detached itself and was 70% inside of my liver folded in half.  Had it gone all the way in I would have been dead.  They took a piece of skin from my hip to cover the hole on my foot where the infection was and I have no feeling in that area.   What was worse was the reaction of coming off of those medications.  I honestly think I can relate to a recovering heroin addict.  I did try to go after the hospital for negligence and was told by several lawfirms that going to the hospital was a risk I took getting the infection from me breaking my foot to begin with.  That's funny, I thought I'd go to the hospital to get better, not worse and practically die.  The one lawfirm that finally took my case decided they didnt want to litigate so I was dropped.   I had never heard of MRSA before my incident and I couldnt believe when I started hearing/reading in the headlines about those who did lose their lives from it or are suffering from it and now it may even surpass AIDS!  I am so thankful to the doctors who saved my life but more needs to be done to control this for sure.
 
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April 4, 2008, 3:31 pm PDT

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Quote From: bethfalcon

My daughter is going for foot surgery in the next two weeks and I am terrified that there is MRSA in the operating room - Are there certain questions I should ask (aside from the obvious ones) prior to the surgery that can help me ease my mind and decrease the risk of her getting hospital acquired MRSA????
As others have advised, ask about HA-MRSA and more than likely you will see them wash their hands before your daughter is in surgery.  But the care after coming out of the hospital is huge too.  Because MRSA is in the community and can be found anywhere, it is not just the hospital room you have to worry about.  I was pretty much treated like the boy in the Velveteen Rabbit, where everything had to be either thrown out or completely disinfected to insure I didnt get sick again.  Also watch other wounds, like a scratch on your arm, a small paper cut, anything like that in which it can enter the body as well.
 
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April 4, 2008, 3:47 pm PDT

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   My husband passed way after complications from a hip replacement and then contracting MRSA last August.  Although he underwent seven weeks of antibiotic therapy, he still sucummed to the SUPERBUG.  The hospitals are rampant with this disease and ANYONE is subseptable to it, especially anyone in a weakened state.  The doctors, nurses and hospital staff that treated my husband tried to lessen the severity of this disease and actually assurred me that the MRSA had been arrested and took him off the antibiotics one week before his death.  An autopsy confimed that he died of infection.  I feel that the doctor was wrong to take my husband off the medicine.  I have consulted two attorneys that will help me take the doctors to court if I decide to sue, although they are positive that it will be a hard lawsuit to win against the doctors and hospital.  I am unsure of how to proceed.  I don't know if I can emotionally or financially handle a suit.  I also have an eleven year old son to consider.  I could use some advise and support.  Thanks!
I do feel your pain.  I mentioned in my earlier post that all of the lawfirms I had talked to said that going to the hospital was a risk I took in regards to getting the infection.  I thought you go there to get better.  My suit was dropped due to people not wanting to litigate, but if the doctor that touched me without gloves had washed his hands I wouldnt be scarred and my internal organs would still be in tact.  But hey Im not a doctor nor lawyer so whatever.
 
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April 4, 2008, 8:16 pm PDT

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i worked with the elderly and they constantly contract  mrsa. one man and woman had it in their nose. inside the mucus. the woman even had it in her eyes. she was a picker. when the residents got it a red dot was stuck next to their name which was located next to their room. so we knew to wear gloves and not to touch anything without gloves. they get it in thier urine also. there is another one called c-diff i do not know the correct spelling but that is in the stool. when people are elderly and bed bound it is easy to contract it. it is easy to get sick in a hospital or hospital type setting. back in the day people were afraid to go to the hospital because dying from an infection was normal years ago. no one wore gloves, or scrubs. people came in with street clothes on. the doctors also operated with street clothes on and also people did not wash their hands. i feel bad for this woman . she lost her child. this could have been prevented.
 
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