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Topic : 03/07 Dr. Phil Now: Sex Offenders Next Door

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Created on : Thursday, March 06, 2008, 04:36:16 am
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Don’t miss Dr. Phil’s exclusive interview with Brianna Denison's mother who is speaking out for the first time since her daughter's body was found. Nineteen-year-old Brianna made headlines when she was kidnapped while she slept on a friend's couch. Brianna's killer – an alleged serial rapist -- is still on the loose in Reno, NV. And, a controversial issue is heating up the headlines: Where should registered sex offenders live when they’re released from prison? Residents of Long Beach, California say not in their neighborhood. They’re outraged that an apartment building is allegedly housing 13 registered sex offenders, and the building owner is reportedly receiving $1,000 per month to house them. Former tenants, James and Getania, were disgusted to learn that the sex offenders were living in their building, and local residents weren’t happy either. Dawna owns several properties near the apartment complex. She says she’s losing tenants and the sex offenders are stalking others. Then, Jake Goldenflame, a registered sex offender who was convicted of molesting his daughter and young boys over 25 years ago, says he's still attracted to teenage boys, but says people like him have no resources and need to live somewhere. What does Dr. Phil think? Should the sex offenders be forced to leave the community, or should their neighbors just learn to live with them? If it's happening now, Dr. Phil is going to deal with it now! Join the discussion.

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March 6, 2008, 4:55 pm CST

Sex Offenders

Quote From: gwarrior6

 

It's very scary to know how many sex offenders live next to you!  There are about 170 in the 10 mile radius from where I live (I need to move).  There's about 20 that live half a mile away!  It's a shocking reality check, thats for sure.

 

You can find out the # of sex offenders that live in your area, their names, addresses and pictures from the the family watchdog site:

 

http://www.familywatchdog.us/

 

What to do when the jails are so overcrowded that these sociopaths are free?

Sex Offenders, and people who share and make child pornography don't get punished severely enough so that in no time at all they are out ready to take over the neighbourhoods, god help us. 

 

Maybe if more women were in charge of making the decisions instead of mostly men who sympathise with these characters, the punishment that is offered might be enough to scare them straight.  Hmmmmm?

 
March 6, 2008, 5:01 pm CST

Have pleaded for help from Dr. Phil

Quote From: ladiehawke

This is a topic that has come up more than once between my circle of friends. We have talked it and taked it to death many times. There is no good answer.

Firstly, these people have to live somewhere. Our laws do not allow them to be taken out of society permanantly. Truthfully, I find the idea of them living all in the same building, isn't a bad idea.

My big problem with the sex offenders registery is that today someone can be labled a sex offender for getting drunk and taking a whizz on the side of the road. There are many people out there that have been forced to register for petty stupid little things that shouldn't be listed as a sex crime. Forcing someone to register as a sex offender should be saved for those who truly are sex offenders. And I hate to say it, but if this country is gonna place a scarlet letter on these people's chest and basicly prevent them from being able to work and live anywhere, then the bovernment should figure out a way to house and feed these people. You can't make a group of people pariahs and not see to their well being.

Atlast some with some sence in this matter.  I have sent in a reguest to Dr. Phil for the past 4 yrs.

concerning the very issue you explained.  Our newly turned 18 year old had an almost 13 girl that

persissited in being to close.  I am going to post the whole story look for it.  HE was charged as a

sex offender over a petting act.  Most people have NO IDEA what all this means to a non offerner

who is forced to be labeled a "Sex Offender"  Police trickery and State policies are the jury.  If a boy

(18) even sticks his finger into a girl 's (12) ear that would be an offence.  Yes!!! a true offender should

be treated as such.  But how many of us as teens' didn't have a heavy petting experience?  If 12 years

old was like it was in the 60's well.... but now they are 12 going on 20+.  Most are very forward!!!!!!!

I plead again for aid in this matter.  Because of all this it has taking our son 7 year just to get through

college (our own University wouldn't allow him to attend). He is under a contant watchful eye with a PO.

How he has had the where for all to go on at times has amazied us.  This has to change

 
March 6, 2008, 5:04 pm CST

What about the laws that are out there still???

Who are the people to blame but law makers. They have laws in every state that say consent is 16 years of age. Kentucky is one of them. Who are you to judge these men. My Husband married a 16 year old girl. She was his nanny and the woman he was with was a drug addict that he had had a son with. Well he got rid of the drug addict and married the nanny. The wife admitted in court she was having sexual relations with her 13 year old cousin. Well the wife decided she wanted a foursome and brought to 13 year old girls home and told my husband that they were 16 years of age. Which is legal age of consent. Well 4 months later because one of the 13 year old girls was teased at school about being a lesbian she told everybody that she was raped. How can that be. She agreed and because she was teased at school because her and her friends told the whole school about she tried to commit suicide. What is wrong with this problem. The mothers of this world allow their daughters to dress in skimpy clothing, pants drooping down to show that their mothers allow them to wear thongs. What is wrong with the mothers that allow that??? Why are charges not pressed against them. That is neglected right there. If you would like to blame anyone blame the laws that say a 16 year old girl can consent to sex. They are still babies who are they to be able to consent????? Watch what your laws say the girls now a days can look them up and know what they are and if you are a mother of a girl that dresses provocatively then you should be ashamed. I want to look beautiful too but not like a tramp or a trollop
 
March 6, 2008, 5:04 pm CST

I'm a sex offender

I did nothing against a child, I was charged with indecent exposier and the state made me register for the rest of my life. Now, I have a seven month old daughter, I take very good care of her. I'm very upset that I have to register as a sex offender and think the law for my case should be looked at. I didn't rape anyone, I never offended anyone, except for the police officer that saw me without any clothes on! So I guess I have to suffer just like all the other sex offenders out there. I don't agree with my lifetime conviction.
 
March 6, 2008, 5:04 pm CST

03/07 Dr. Phil Now: Disturbing Headlines

Quote From: trlemay

I am the mother of a sex offender...I'll explain, my son at the age of 19 ( by one month) met a girl on MySpace whom he thought was 21.  She had posted 21, she looked 18, I think. They got together after chatting online several times.  He has always liked girls a few years older than him...he asked questions such as "where's your car"  she replied, "it's in the shop", he made other comments and asked other things, she had a reply that would validate her age of 21.  They were together consensually twice.  This girl has been dating a 23 year old and others, my son just happened to be the one to admit to knowing her and being with her, he didn't think anything of it when questioned by the authorities.  This girl was actually 14, her father is an investigator the the local sheriff's dept.  My son is sitting in jail with a whole bunch of young guys in this same situation, he is also sitting in jail with a man that sexually abused his own 4 year old daughter, older men who have forced themselves on young girls within the same age of the girl that my son was with.  I ask why do we place ALL of these people in the same bucket and label them the same?  My thoughts are that the sex offenders have different classifications for the degree of the offense.  Do you agree?  I thought the same as all of you who have expressed your thoughts and feelings as to where they should live and how "they" should be treated by society.  I thought those thoughts until I walked in the shoes of the mother of a sex offender.  I can't express the hurt that I feel, not for me, but for my son and the other kids that do have the scarlet letter forever stamped on their forehead.  Where does my son live when he gets out, where does he work, is banning sex offenders from neighborhoods discrimination, is it fair?  This "girl" that I speak of is still advertising herself on MySpace, with the same age of 21 posted, with the same picture that makes her look pretty close to the age she has posted.  Her life didn't stop, her life didn't change, she's not locked up for entrapment or lying or changing my son's life forever.  What's fair about that 
I agree that our penal system is labeling people as sex offenders who are not preditors.  We need to re-classity the differences between real threats to our children, like a John Cuohy, from people who don't deserve to be placed in that category.  Not everyone who had sex with an under-aged person is a sexual threat.  Our young people are sexually active and look older than we did so why can they engage in sex with someone 18 willingly , not admit their age and then the older person spends the rest of their life with the stigma of being a sexual offender?
 
March 6, 2008, 5:15 pm CST

Do Something

I believe our laws are too strict.  First sex offenders in most peoples eyes are people who abuse women and young children, not people who have sex with a 16 y/o and they are 19, this is ludicrous that we label them in the same category as a person who rapes a 13 y/o, a 10 y/o or 4 y/o---THESE ARE SEX OFFENDERS.  If a young women poses as an older person, lies about it and looks like it you can not fault the man that believes it.  When I was 12 I looked 18, but I didn't go around flaunting that I was anything but 12.  Let's prosecute the real offenders and then lock them up in prison and then group homes for the rest of their lives.  It is a proven statistic they can't be rehabilitated.
 
March 6, 2008, 5:19 pm CST

A Plea for change for (non) Sex Offeners

  When my son was 19 he was called into the Police Department for questioning regarding questionable photos that had been retrieved by a teacher at a local middle school.  Cory had been identified in these pictures that had been brought to school by one of his friends. His friend was a 12 year old (almost 13) girl that was questioned as well.  During this questioning the officer “befriended” him to tell him all that had happened.  He was taught to tell the truth and be there for others.  In answering the questions of the officer the officer learned of a prior association between him and his friend including an encounter that happened prior to the photos where He and this girl had consensual sexual contact.  Never was there sexual intercourse but touching on the part of both parties. The officer then requested a written statement from him.  Then the officer requested that he change some of the wording in the statement to read what he (the officer) thought it should say before having him sign it.  His words were used against him and the statement that was tape recorded was lost.  He was called again to come back to the station for more “questioning” not aware that the grand jury had indicted him and there was a warrant for his arrest.  When he arrived voluntarily he was arrested without telling him why and without having his rights read at any time.   Four years pass before the trial comes.  He was offered a plea bargain that was guaranteed no jail time, if he pled guilty to Attempted Rape of a Child.  In accepting this plea bargain He, nor any of us, were aware of what that would mean, facts were not explained to any of us.  He is now labeled as a Sex Offender and on the State Registry.   He made a mistake.  He did not RAPE anyone.   Estimated cost at present is approximately $80,000.00 + not including what He has to pay out of pocket for court cost, etc. explained in the next statement.   The first year after trial HE had to meet with a probation officer every week, had to participate in polygraph testing and had a nightly curfew of 6:00 pm, among many other restrictions.  HE is now in his second year post trial. He has a probation officer and has to meet with her once a month.  He has to attend Sex Offender classes with true sex offenders. He is listed on the Sex Offenders Registry which is public knowledge. He cannot attend the local high school football games. He can not take his nieces and nephews to the park nor be alone with them at anytime.  He can not go anywhere children congregate.    After many years of putting his life on hold He is trying to finish his degree.  He graduated for a Community College (on the Dean’s list) but the local University wouldn’t admit him nor approve him to commute to classes.  So he is attending a University that is an hour and half from his home and struggling with trying to find housing in a college town that will be “acceptable” according to the constraints of his legal status.  He cannot live within 1,000 feet of schools, daycares, churches, parks again anywhere children congregate.  He has to explain his situation to everyone he meets.  He is trying to proceed with and make something of his life, all the while facing difficult and unnecessary roadblocks. There should be some separation in the legal system for those that truly are a sex offender and those that have made unwise decisions.   He has made many mistakes and feels that he shouldn’t have to pay for them for the next 20+ years.  His punishment does not fit the crime.  He did wrong and accepts that responsibility but should he really be considered the same as some who is a predator to young children?    How do we address the issue of sexual offenses?  Should a teenager recently turned “adult” be held in the same standards as a predator and/or molester of young children?  What can be done about this situation not only for us but also for other young people (both boys and girls) that may find themselves in this situation?  Why are police officers allowed to question in this matter and act as a friend?  Are the Miranda Rights not required before questioning someone?  Does the state not take into consideration the wishes of “victim” and/or their family?  (The family of the girl never held any ill will toward he and even offered to help in his defense but was not allowed to do so)  Why are the police allowed to transport a unbuckled prisoner at a fast rate of speed?  When did a boyfriend/girlfriend type of encounter become RAPE and subsequent one party being labeled as a sexual offender?  If the charges were dismissed because of a missing tape how was the DA’s office allowed to proceed?  Is there a chance to have this expunged?    How does a young man (18-19 year old) recently labeled as an “adult” learn how to deal with girls that are 12-13 years old going on 20+.  You know they are out there.  Are girls to be protected and boys not?    The information above is provided only to find out what your intentions are regarding this matter. I do not want this to cause over exposure or problems for my sons future.  This situation has been hard enough to except and the only way my son or I would be willing to appear on your show would be due to a positive outcome.  He is willing to discuss this matter in detail if needed.

 

Thank you again for your attention to this matter.  I will await your response and hope that Dr. Phil will be willing and able to help my family with this difficult situation.

 

Waiting with hope,

 
March 6, 2008, 5:20 pm CST

recidivism

Quote From: lrapsey

 Unfortunately we give NON Violent drug offenders more jail time than SO's. That is our first problem! We need to insist our politicians change the sentencing system. I personally don't want to live next to an SO.

The recidivism rate of an SO is HIGH. That tells me they shouldn't be put back in communities. Maybe if they had the jail time they deserve . We wouldn't have to worry where they were living!!!

U need to read some real literature about this..Read Paul Sutton ..Most don't re-offend...( certainly not the level ones) and until we stop lumping everyone together in this pot.., will we get justice...or will we understand it fully..
 
March 6, 2008, 5:30 pm CST

U need to know more

Quote From: byhispirit

I do not have alot of Mercy in this area. I believe once you have sexually offended someone you have murdered their spirit , their wholeness and their chance at total wellbeing someday.
I do not believe a molester, sex offender etc.. , should ever be out of jail. I believe murderers should not either. To me the crimes are the same.  Even though someone that has been molested is still alive physically, the death on the inside of them is so bad.  Most never get over it.  So if I had my way, they would all get the death penalty and not sit on death row forever, but get it over with quickly. They are NOT human in my sight. Even if they were offended before, how in the world can they use that as an excuse to go on and mess others up?  If they have no control, or no remorse over what happened to them , to make them not be like their offender , then they need to be put away. If we could get them out of society, we could eventually end or lessen these crimes. But the law insist on treating these people like humans. Make an area in the USA far away from normal decent people, and make them all go live there. That way they can just use and abuse their own kind.  Like I said I just have no Mercy for people like this. It'd probably be best if they used a firing squad on them, Like in other countries to some who break the laws . Our laws though are on the criminals side here in America. That is why the crime rates are getting worse everywhere. There is No Justice for decent people. Only for criminals.  Things need to be turned around. Build more prisons etc.. Right now as I am typing on the news they are talking about 2 murders of two different college students, One female in Auburn Ala. from Ga. and another  female in a state I missed.  I think maybe she was from Ga. also.  Its just so sad for these families etc..  If justice was on the victims side , we'd see less of this kind of stuff.  I usually have alot of Mercy. But I am sorry in this area, I just can't find it.  I know too many victims of this kind of crime  !!  I've witnessed the permanent damage this seems to do !!
U need to know that to lump everyone together is wrong...How to you equate the guy who peed behind the tree or the kid who slept with his girlfriend with these murderers??? U need more info to be truely informed
 
March 6, 2008, 5:38 pm CST

03/07 Dr. Phil Now: Disturbing Headlines

Quote From: bobbiesart

Atlast some with some sence in this matter.  I have sent in a reguest to Dr. Phil for the past 4 yrs.

concerning the very issue you explained.  Our newly turned 18 year old had an almost 13 girl that

persissited in being to close.  I am going to post the whole story look for it.  HE was charged as a

sex offender over a petting act.  Most people have NO IDEA what all this means to a non offerner

who is forced to be labeled a "Sex Offender"  Police trickery and State policies are the jury.  If a boy

(18) even sticks his finger into a girl 's (12) ear that would be an offence.  Yes!!! a true offender should

be treated as such.  But how many of us as teens' didn't have a heavy petting experience?  If 12 years

old was like it was in the 60's well.... but now they are 12 going on 20+.  Most are very forward!!!!!!!

I plead again for aid in this matter.  Because of all this it has taking our son 7 year just to get through

college (our own University wouldn't allow him to attend). He is under a contant watchful eye with a PO.

How he has had the where for all to go on at times has amazied us.  This has to change

I agree..I hope Dr. Phil will sort out some of the mis-understandings about all of this...There are many levels of SO's and the level ones should not be lumped in with the level 3's...some of these people should never even have these tags..
 
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