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Topic : 03/07 Dr. Phil Now: Sex Offenders Next Door

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Created on : Thursday, March 06, 2008, 04:36:16 am
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Don’t miss Dr. Phil’s exclusive interview with Brianna Denison's mother who is speaking out for the first time since her daughter's body was found. Nineteen-year-old Brianna made headlines when she was kidnapped while she slept on a friend's couch. Brianna's killer – an alleged serial rapist -- is still on the loose in Reno, NV. And, a controversial issue is heating up the headlines: Where should registered sex offenders live when they’re released from prison? Residents of Long Beach, California say not in their neighborhood. They’re outraged that an apartment building is allegedly housing 13 registered sex offenders, and the building owner is reportedly receiving $1,000 per month to house them. Former tenants, James and Getania, were disgusted to learn that the sex offenders were living in their building, and local residents weren’t happy either. Dawna owns several properties near the apartment complex. She says she’s losing tenants and the sex offenders are stalking others. Then, Jake Goldenflame, a registered sex offender who was convicted of molesting his daughter and young boys over 25 years ago, says he's still attracted to teenage boys, but says people like him have no resources and need to live somewhere. What does Dr. Phil think? Should the sex offenders be forced to leave the community, or should their neighbors just learn to live with them? If it's happening now, Dr. Phil is going to deal with it now! Join the discussion.

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March 7, 2008, 9:04 am PST

YOU LIVE NEXT TO THEM

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This is a topic that has come up more than once between my circle of friends. We have talked it and taked it to death many times. There is no good answer.

Firstly, these people have to live somewhere. Our laws do not allow them to be taken out of society permanantly. Truthfully, I find the idea of them living all in the same building, isn't a bad idea.

My big problem with the sex offenders registery is that today someone can be labled a sex offender for getting drunk and taking a whizz on the side of the road. There are many people out there that have been forced to register for petty stupid little things that shouldn't be listed as a sex crime. Forcing someone to register as a sex offender should be saved for those who truly are sex offenders. And I hate to say it, but if this country is gonna place a scarlet letter on these people's chest and basicly prevent them from being able to work and live anywhere, then the bovernment should figure out a way to house and feed these people. You can't make a group of people pariahs and not see to their well being.

I would tattoo it to there for head!! in red with a big SFsex offender. OHIO, is giving out new lic.plates, for reg.sex offenders, as they do with people have DUIs on their recored. I love it,  show the monster.

The goverment should house these people,  your crazy, I care not if they have to move a million time, make there life hell, as they did to the people they offened,

sex offender are pariahs and should be treated as pariahs, i would lock them up forever

 

there was a man on the news the other day for raping and giving a 2 year old a std,  i would rather shot this man then give him a scarlet letter, but hey, maybe when he gets out he can come live with you.

 
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March 7, 2008, 9:10 am PST

sex offenders

It's sad that people have to be on guard all the time. For 20 years I drove school bus in a rural area. Each year before school started I would check our state site to see who was living on my bus route. I just wanted the kids to be safe.
 
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March 7, 2008, 9:15 am PST

sex offenders livng in community

It's a really hard topic to discuss b/c no one wants a sex offender living close to their home let alone in thier city.  If they are forced out of one community, they are moved to another.  And then THOSE ppl don't want them there.  It's ongoing b/c no one wants to risk living near them.  It's just too bad they are released at all. 

 

There is a halfway house next to the townhouse complex that I live in that houses sex offenders and other types of offenders.  It is also located next to a church and backs onto a public school yard!  A few of us held protests to have the facility moved or at least the sex offenders moved elsewhere.  In many of their release papers it indicates they are not to be on or around where children congregate!!!  Yet they are placed next to a public school.  They had a high risk sex offender who was deemed likely to reoffend by his own admission.  He was dangerous and a very sick individual who claims medication and/or therapy hasn't and wouldn't help him.  He admits that he will seek a new victim saying he "prefers girls but would settle for a boy" and describes what he'd do in comic book drawings he creates.  Which was something he got additional charges on.  Distributing child pornography within the prison.  He was in prison for attacking a young girl in a dept. store attempting to harm her right in plain sight!!  They removed him from this facility within days of our protests, but this is outrageous!!  I could go on about this but won't.  I''m in Ontario Canada btw. 

 

IS there a solution to this??  Changing the laws perhaps that would confine them to life in prison?  Are they capable of rehabilitation.... really?  Or is the risk always there?  Something I don't think any of us should have to worry about! 

 
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March 7, 2008, 9:22 am PST

grandma

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  I just used the sex offender web sight and put in my daughters adress and their next door neighbor is a teir 2 sex offender.  I am livid!!!!!  Other than move what rights does my daughter have???  This is a young couple with a small baby.  They bought the house.  Isnt there some notification to neighbors, he is a teir 2 offender with a miner  female ubder age 13.  My grand daughter is 11.  My daughter now doesent sleep at night .  This has disrupted their whole life and restricted my grand children form playing out side their own home.  What is wrong with this picture???  My family shouldnt have to pay for his actions.  I will be waiting for your comments.  Thanks WORRIED Grandma in vegas.

I did a sex offenders search before i bought my home,but if they move in after,there is very few things you can do, post signs, make it uncomfortalbe for them to stay, or get the other neihbor togethers an buy him out.

 

It is a shame your granddaughter can't have the freedom of playing outsided, because our goverment gave that man next door his freedom, to only take away a childs freedom to be a kid

 
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March 7, 2008, 9:24 am PST

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i have three wonderful children and neice and nephews and little cousins and i could not even imagin what i would do if something happen to either one,they have no right to live in soCiety and we should not have to pay for their freedom...i think to myself what in the world has happen to america to say this is alright.i feel there should be tuffer sentences and i mean tuff,as far as if that is what they want to do with their lives then they should pay for it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!literaly!!!!

you know our children does not have a voice as parents we do and i will protect my children at every cost.as far as i am conserned a noose around there neck is still to good for them,I HAVE NO SYMPATHY FOR A CHILD MOLESTER OR A CHILD ABUSER AND YOU WILL NEVER GET IT! 

just about every show that has been done on this topic has proven that there is no cure for this but i bet i have a cure.I LOVE MY CHILDREN AND I FEEL SORRY FOR THE PERSON THAT HURTS THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I HAVE TO MISS THE SHOW I HAVE TO WORK,SORRY.

 
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March 7, 2008, 9:33 am PST

sex offender part2

I wanted to add a few things to what i said earlier.

I am a registered sex offender.

i let a child look at a adult movie and did not stop him when i was young.

i never hurt a child.

i never raped a child.

this was a 1 time stupid situation.

i do know what it is like to be sexually attacked.

i was rapped for over 5 years by a family member

most offenders are realitives or people you know.

not all sex offenders are freaks who should be on a island,

i know a personw ho had was 18 and had sex with a 16 year old (later married the divorced). who is on registry.

it is ignorance to say lock them all up. kill them or w/e that is childish and plain out dumb. We need to educate and if those who are a danger (look on the registry.. if they are predators itll say so) those people i say castrate. but come on grow up. putting them in a town, a island or w/e is not logical or anything.

I just want people to understand not all people on the registry are bad still.

once a offender allways a offender? not true. i went from being a offender to having a family, a child, a great family. i never have had any urges as some say. thats just ignorance.

People please stop and think for a sec. who here has never done anything wrong? noone has.

now please do understand.. what i did is wrong i did my time. but these laws also affect the children, the wifes,the husbands of offenders. why punish them?? if you punish them then you are guilty also.

true offenders are listed as predators on the registry and those people should be castrated i think, made to get treatment.


hate me or love me but thats how i feel. i still have the right to opinion..
 
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March 7, 2008, 9:34 am PST

Call a lawyer!

Quote From: trlemay

I am the mother of a sex offender...I'll explain, my son at the age of 19 ( by one month) met a girl on MySpace whom he thought was 21.  She had posted 21, she looked 18, I think. They got together after chatting online several times.  He has always liked girls a few years older than him...he asked questions such as "where's your car"  she replied, "it's in the shop", he made other comments and asked other things, she had a reply that would validate her age of 21.  They were together consensually twice.  This girl has been dating a 23 year old and others, my son just happened to be the one to admit to knowing her and being with her, he didn't think anything of it when questioned by the authorities.  This girl was actually 14, her father is an investigator the the local sheriff's dept.  My son is sitting in jail with a whole bunch of young guys in this same situation, he is also sitting in jail with a man that sexually abused his own 4 year old daughter, older men who have forced themselves on young girls within the same age of the girl that my son was with.  I ask why do we place ALL of these people in the same bucket and label them the same?  My thoughts are that the sex offenders have different classifications for the degree of the offense.  Do you agree?  I thought the same as all of you who have expressed your thoughts and feelings as to where they should live and how "they" should be treated by society.  I thought those thoughts until I walked in the shoes of the mother of a sex offender.  I can't express the hurt that I feel, not for me, but for my son and the other kids that do have the scarlet letter forever stamped on their forehead.  Where does my son live when he gets out, where does he work, is banning sex offenders from neighborhoods discrimination, is it fair?  This "girl" that I speak of is still advertising herself on MySpace, with the same age of 21 posted, with the same picture that makes her look pretty close to the age she has posted.  Her life didn't stop, her life didn't change, she's not locked up for entrapment or lying or changing my son's life forever.  What's fair about that 

I'm sorry to hear about your son facing this kind of abuse. It's not fair, & it is in no way his fault, as the girl whom he was talking to got him in a lot of trouble based on lies. Shame on her father for not banning her MySpace account in the first place. As for the girl, she honestly needs a good kick in the rear for causing so much pain for you & your family. That's Entrapment! She will get hers one day, trust me!

 

If I were you, I would call a lawyer about this situation immediately.

 
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March 7, 2008, 9:38 am PST

determining Perfect is not a judicial matter

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Most of you act like you are perfect. That you have never did anything wrong in your entire life. Have you ever took something that was not yours? even if it was from a sister or brother and you was just a child? Had a bad thought about someone? Been in a fight? Many more stuff that you may or may not got caught doing are wrong and just cause you got away with it does not make it less wrong. You have no right to judge people until you have all the facts. Not just one side of the story but both. Just cause someone is a registered sex offender does not mean they actually did the crime. It just means that the court found quilt of it and for the rest of thier life they are going to be labeled as one. In some states you do not have to rap or sexually hurt someone againist thier will to be labeled as one, but you have to live with being called one. Did you know that in some states you can simply just flash someone or run down the street with no cloths on or close to it and be labeled as one. Plus did you know that if your 18, and your boyfriend or girlfriend is 17 or younger, and the right people find out about it, that you can be label as a registered sex offender with or without the underage person or thier parent pressing charges. All this cause you and the person you love want to express how you both feel for each other. You did nothing wrong but you will be labeled for it for the rest of your life. Yes I know there are some people who are correctly labeled as one. But the ones being released have paid thier time. It is on thier record for all to see. They have to live with the mistake they made for the rest of thier life. I know some are not remorseful about what they did. But some are and it is not right to group them with the ones that are not. A lot want to change and are working on being just normal and are truefully remorseful. But how are they going to do this if your not giving them a chance and if your constantly judging them. I think your just as bad as what you think they are!! They can only change if you give them a chance. That is what the government is doing. So get your facts about someone before you judge them. Also some people who are not labeled registered sex offender are worse than the people who are one. Just cause they have not been caught or were given a less of a charge does not make them better than the ones that are. But you only do not want to live near the ones that are. Get you facts then judge them. You never know what you will find out. Plus what if you was wrongly convicted of something that you did not do. Would you want someone judging you before they got to know you or befoe they atleast find out both sides of the story? Most likely you would not but you are doing that to them. Think about it.

In this country there are laws.  A registered sex offender is a law breaker.  This has nothing to do with judging perfection.  It has nothing to do with labels.  It has to do with protecting innocent victims from criminal behavior. 

 

Fortunately  , 'forgiveness'  and exhonoration  of a  civil crime is not up to Priests' judgments in the USA.  Considering many have been among the worst sexual offenders those should all be registered as offenders and required to wear a sign with their registered number,  since the church tries to pretend they did nothing wrong.  I think I will happily accept the judicial system's determination that the Catholic Church is ordered to pay the victims  millions of dollars compensation for the  C Church's and Priests' illegal and evil pretense.

 

 A female under the age of 17 is legally, under the USA law system,  a child.  If the male offender is 17 too,  he is still guilty of sexual assault if the evidence shows there was an assault.  The judicial system is about weighing evidence of criminal behavior.... and protecting the innocent victims.

In many countries familys  prostitute their children.  I suppose we aren't supposed to judge them as imperfect either?  They are slime.  Last time I checked,  slime is not perfect.  So sorry.

 

If someone is over the legal age and wants to 'express their love'  by sexual assault to an underage child, they are in the wrong country for such behavior.  If they really wanted to express love they would show respect  for the child by keeping their filthy appendages to themselves. "expresing love" is the  lie to justify taking what they want and when they want it while showing total disrespect for the law and the child.

The ultimate abuse.  Lock them up.

 
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March 7, 2008, 9:46 am PST

YOU LIVE BY THEM

Quote From: gmom07

Dr. Phil, I think you did the public a disservice today.  Most people believe all sex offenders are predators.  There are sexually oriented offenders, sex offenders Tier One,Two and Three, three being the most dangerous. Some consentual relationships with teenagers over 14 and adults are drug or alcohol related, no force or violence involved. Not all offenders are sociopaths.  Look at the ones who are taking advantage of their time in prison to turn their lives around, to understand what led them to it, such as they themselves having been the victim of child abuse or molestation and who plan to try to make a difference in others' lives when they are released. Some are peope who have wives and children waiting for them. How are they to go on.  I believe your show today fed the witch hunt which is currenly going on.  I believe it fed the ambitions of politicians who want to appear "tough on crime" and who are in a position to make sentencing laws.  I think that our current judicial system is currupt and our prison system is failing the public.  I believe you know better.

child molester, can not be cured, they don't turn their lifes a round, and stop wanting to have sex with a child, they are and always will be sexually attracted to children,

If they where victems of molestation when they where young, makes no difference to me, they are the predator now and should be treated as one.

 

you go hold to the hand of a predator, and as you hold that hand think of what it has done, the pain it has caused and continues to cause in the victems it touched

 
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March 7, 2008, 9:48 am PST

sex offenders

sex offenders do need a place to live. But i think every city and every state. Should require a sex offender to register as such. And i think sex offenders should be housed in appartment buildings where there are no children. And not near any schools. because once an offender always a offender. By allowing sex offenders to live near people they like to victimize whether it be children or women. It is just asking for trouble. Because as long as their are children and women around . They will just keep on doing the raping. There is no cure for a rapist. Or a child molester. And the children and women that these rapistists prefer. Will just keep on going. Unless they are placed to live in a place where there are no victims. Or put in a maxium security place. Where they are kept track of twenty four hrs. a day.
 
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