Topic : 03/10 Underage Marriage

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Created on : Friday, March 07, 2008, 11:28:18 am
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A teen marriage, accusations of sexual abuse, maternal abandonment – you name it, this family drama has it all. Leslie says she didn’t give permission for her 16-year-old daughter, Corina, to marry Ryan, 18, and now wants the union annulled. Corina says she wants her mother to back off and stay out of her life because she was abandoned, and her mother doesn’t get a vote. She says her mother is retaliating against her because she accused her stepfather, Chris, of molesting her two years ago. Leslie says Corina has a history of lying, and she finds it hard to believe her daughter was sexually abused. Who’s telling the truth? Can this mother-daughter relationship be repaired, and should Corina end her marriage? Tell us what you think!

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March 10, 2008, 9:06 am PDT

I feel it is too late to end the marriage

When this child formed the marital relationship, she was not under the rules of her parental home.  Anything that would interfere in this child's life at this point, I believe will only make the situation worse for it seems that she does love Ryan.

 

I also am wondering if Mom wants the marriage annuled because she feels that her daughter has somehow tainted her marriage, so she is wanting to do a pay back kind of thing?  I don't know for sure, being this child will be living with the grandmother instead of the mother...why does the mother want to keep control a going when the control is in the grandmother's hands if this child is given an annulment...doesn't make sense to me...really.

 

I believe the step father not wanting to take a polygraph test is a way of admitting that something did transpire...if not, then why not go for it to end the drama or does he like the drama to continue?

 

Mother's that chose the victimizer over the child, generally don't fair well...in bridging the gap between mother and daughter.

 

Sixteen years old is a tough time for any kid a wanting to deal with the real world.  I got married at 18 years of age and I know that I was too young to take that big step...I did hang in there until my second child was born and I saw that our relationship wasn't getting better it was a getting worse.

 

I wish that I could have had someone like Dr. Phil a helping me out...perhaps I would have chose to stay at home amidst the chaos and drama of having two parents both physical yet not accountable being they both were alcoholics at the time and my dad was when out of it, a trying to corner me for sexual favors...

 

I wish more for this beautiful child...yet it is her wish and she already has cracked that book cover and now what she does with her life is her and Ryan's concern and not the mother's problem any longer...

 

I too placed my children at 14 and 16 with their real dad, for I believed at that time that sons needed to know their dad and their dad them...being I had raised them and he wasn't given the chance due to our marriage ending so abruptly due to him having a need to experience the dating world that he had never known being he got married at 19 to me, just having turned 18 years of age.

 

I also allowed my sons to live with their dad, because their dad was always a interfering in how I and their step father was a raising them...we could never do anything right and our sons were always a coming back from dad's with orders on how to do a better job than what I was a doing...so I gave him his chance.

 

Do i regret it today?  Sometimes...for dad was an alcoholic as well and I believe that my sons didn't advance much from the stay with dad...yet I will have to take that up with God when I return Home.

 

Those are my thoughts.

May You All Be Blessed

Love, Light and Peace

Tonie

 
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March 10, 2008, 9:08 am PDT

I have another thought

I believe the clue as to why the mom is wanting the annulment to occur is because she too got married when she was young and dumb and full of herself and regrets the decision she made when she thought she knew it all...

 

what do you think?

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Love, Light and Peace

Tonie

 
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March 10, 2008, 9:12 am PDT

03/10 Underage Marriage

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I was watching this episode but never found out the results of the polygraph test. When were we supposed to hear them?  Did I miss something?
Dr Phil said arrangements would be made for Corina's polygraph. And, that he'd share the results at a later date. He also urged Chris to get one. I tend to believe him and Leslie over her. Corina waited a year, i believe, to tell Leslie. To "protect" their marriage, she alleged. If my stepfather molested me. I wouldn't give a damn about the marriage. I'd want my mother to know immediately. Leslie didn't immediately dismiss Corina's allegations, BTW. She sent her to stay with a friend while Chris was investigated. Until no evidence was found. If corina is lying, she's probably too immature to realize that she can't beat a polygraph.
 
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March 10, 2008, 9:23 am PDT

I am so sorry Carmen

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She needs to get help.. THE MOTHER! ..............I think Iwill  send this to 'MY MOTHER'..... I will use t he term 'mother' very loosley...LOL. Seriously......this person should NEVER of had me.  I DESERVE BETTER!!!!!....................'I HATE YOU[mom'......there..I feel better now...LOL!!!!

My name is Carmen. I am just 30 , living inCanada. I work as an RN in a Critical Care/Trauma setting.

Talk to [you later

Take Care,
Carmen

I don't know how you are a feeling because I didn't tell my mother that my daddy tried to seduce me when I was in my early teens...perhaps I was afraid that mom wouldn't believe me and would like dad told me; think me a liar because he was going to do his best to convince her of such...

 

I don't know for sure why I didn't tell her...

 

Both of my parents are now deceased and to tell you the truth...being believable now is also a problem with at least one of my sisters who is 16 years of age younger than myself.

 

For the dad that grew her up, wasn't the same dad that raised me...for the dad that raised me didn't have a strong religious sense...so I was able to forgive him because he was the dad before he discovered who Christ is...understand?

 

The last 30 plus years of his and my mom's life were spent serving Our Heavenly Father and alcohol was not a necessary ingredient to life so there in made the total difference.

 

It was not easy a getting close to my mother...yet towards the end of her and my dad's life, I got lots closer than ever before and therein laid the difference.

 

I am at peace with both of my parents...and I can't wait to see them both again in Heaven...and I mean that quite sincerely...

 

I hope Carmen that you are able to mend the distance between you and your mom...for daughters are able to get a strong sense of who they are, from the mother...and fathers are just important as the mother daughter bond...for the father figure reflects what it is that the daughter will accept in the man/men that they will one day choose to have and to hold...

 

I will keep you in my prayers Carmen...

 

Forgiveness is something that you gift yourself with...you do it first for yourself and from there is spreads and affects your whole life...

 

May You Be Blessed

Love, Light and Peace

Tonie

 
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March 10, 2008, 9:29 am PDT

Times HAVE changed....

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I have to point that many of our parents and grand parents got  married at that young age and made it...I know times have changed..but come one people we know they can work after all many have been married 50+ years.

We can't go by what our parents and grandparents did over 50 years ago, because times HAVE changed. It's a whole different world now and we have to deal with what IS, not what WAS.

 

Back then, people weren't living as long so they got married earlier. Women weren't as educated and didn't have as many opportunities as they do now. Higher education for a woman was considered "a waste" because she would most likely not use that education anyway....more often than not, a girl went to college to get her "MRS" degree. Girls pretty much were of the mind set that you get married and had a bunch of kids as soon as you could,  and the man would take care of you forever;  you went from your parent's home to your husband's home with no space in between.

 

Divorce was not an easy option...because what would the woman then do? Rarely could she get a decent job that would support her and any kids she had, so she was pretty much stuck. Most women did not work outside the home while married.  Spousal abuse was kept quiet, and if it did come to light, it was more accepted...(gotta keep "the little woman" in line) type of thinking. If the husband was an alcoholic, it wasn't discussed; just tolerated. Again, where would she go and what would she do if she left the marriage?

 

If you want a more realistic view of marriage 50 years ago, watch some episodes of "I Love Lucy." (Reruns are on every day.) I distinctly recall one episode where Ricky turned Lucy over his knee and spanked her, and the audience thought it was hilarious! No laugh track then...live audience...and if you think "oh, that was just a TV show, it wasn't real"...it was more real than you know. Even "Leave It To Beaver" showed June Cleaver in a subservient role, though not as much as Lucy.  

 

So...unless you were there over 50 years ago, you can't speak with any real knowledge.

 
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March 10, 2008, 9:35 am PDT

03/10 Underage Marriage

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With today's premiscious behavior and unlearned lessons about "LIFE", I would tell every underage person to wait until at least graduation from high school or/and a trade school or/and college.  The hormornes are raging when you are teens, but the intellectual knowledge is below level.  Man seem to be going backwards in parental teachings and guardianship.  Actually young people don't even know how to have responsible or good sex.  They are like rabbits going at it for the mere pleasure of having enjoyment.

 

It sounds as if there has been a lot of unhealthy family dynamics going on and the kids are looking for love in the wrong place.  If only a little less anger in the family could be shown and more mature listening to each other might go a long way.

 

I pray the relationships build and understanding and reason rule. 

Since the brain, according to research, continues developing at least until age 25, I think 16 is too young for anyone to get married. Sure, some marriages begun at 16 have lasted 50 years or longer. But, in 1958, 16-year-olds were more mature, and responsible, than most are these days. And, back when it was much more common for girls to marry that in there teens, everyone graduated from HS at 15 or 16. My grandmother graduated at 15, in 1911. Went to Normal School, where she got her teacher's training. Taught school for about two years before she got married. And, was already 20 when my uncle was born.
 
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March 10, 2008, 9:43 am PDT

Get a grip - Find your Wisdom

Whatever created a situation for a 16 year old to marry, now calls for some wisdom.

 

To the mother, Leslie, get a grip and find your wisdom as a mother. Back off and allow your young daughter to make her own mistakes now that she has made a big one.  Once the event has taken place you might just want to stand back and offer love and a mother's wisdom, if you have any.

 

If you lack wisdom then you will try to interfere and make the situation even worse. If you choose that path, trust that your life and relationships will be full of turmoil and remorse.

 
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March 10, 2008, 10:29 am PDT

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Well I think there is some serious problems on both sides. Think sixteen is way to young to be married, because if your not old enough to get insurance, job and vote then your not old enough to face adult problems . Your brains are not even finished growing yet. My God! just because you think your in love at that moment doesn't mean you should be married. Give it a few weeks and then you'll be ready to move on. At sixteen you have no clue of what you want to do with the rest of your life. And as for this mother, when your child comes to you with the news of being molested; your supposed to get her some help and accuse her of lying. If my daughter came to me with this type of news I would everything in my power to get her what ever help she needed and if that meant getting away from my husband who did this I would. We as parents are given a special gift from God and were supposed to protect them from harm even if this is in our own homes, and that means doing everything we can. This child's innocents was taken from her and now she is seeking love from anyone who will give it to her.

 
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March 10, 2008, 11:11 am PDT

I wanna see the RESULTS of the polygraph!

Until then, I'm on the fence on this one!

 

Robin

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March 10, 2008, 12:12 pm PDT

Hmmmmm

My husband and I were teens when we married. His dad signed for him to get married. He was 16 I was 18. Plus I was pregnant with our daughter at the time too. We have had the normal problems every marriage has. We have grown up together over these last 12 years of marriage. we have had a lot of happy times and sad ones as well. But we never did the bad stuff that is said to have happened in this story. I love my husband more and more each day. I hope we prove that young mariage can survive if it's done right.
 

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