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Topic : 03/11 Dr. Phil Now: Targeting the Paparazzi

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Created on : Friday, March 07, 2008, 11:30:06 am
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Dr. Phil takes on a hot topic that has people buzzing! They’ve been called wolves, snakes and vultures, and now Hollywood stars want them to back off. They’re the "stalkarazzi" who stop at nothing to get that million dollar photo. What should happen to photographers and videographers who chase celebrities through traffic, harass them and hunt them down like prey? Should they go to jail, or do celebrities give up their right to privacy when they become famous? Los Angeles City Councilman Dennis Zine has created an anti-paparazzi proposal that would impose a personal safety bubble of several feet around public figures who are deemed to be paparazzi targets. Joining the discussion is Russell Turiak, a paparazzi for 30 years, Adrian Grenier, star of HBO’s show Entourage, Hollywood.TV owner Sheeraz Hasan, actress Illeana Douglas, and Brandy Navarre, Vice President of photo agency X17 Online. What do they think of the newly proposed Britney law? Plus, who does musician Gene Simmons say is to blame for the celebrity-obsessed paparazzi? Talk about the show here.

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March 11, 2008, 7:53 am CDT

paparazzi

I feel that celebreties have there right to privacy. I feel that paparazzi get to close to them and that the paparazzi should be made to be so many feet away from the person. And America does not want to see celebrities picking up dog food.

I feel celebrities are people just like the rest of us and deserve their privacy. Paparazzi should not be going too close to them or their homes. I don't care what celebrities are doing or who they are seeing or what they eat for lunch. They are people like the rest of us, and the only difference is their job is being on tv. We all have jobs and work hard and I don't think celebrities lives should be highlighted. Just because they are on television or in the movies doesn't give us the right to disrupt their lives outside of their jobs.  Their lives and their jobs should be seperate.
 
March 11, 2008, 8:27 am CDT

LAWS

In Ohio if you follow that close to an ambu;ance you are fined or arrrested  or in some cases both!!!!

This fines and court cost would cover the $25,000.00 cost of the transport of Britany

Where were the police Why did they Allow this? Escorting her was not an issue they should have arrested and handed out tickets!!!!

There are Laws in Place they need to be Enforced!!!!!!!!!

 
March 11, 2008, 8:34 am CDT

Mixed Feelings. But why do we care about the celebs anyway?

I have MIXED FEELINGS about this topic.

 

The celebs sure do want the cameras around, but expect them around only when THEY want them around???? The celebs don't get to USE the photographers when they want and then say 'no' the rest of the time, do they??? Doesn't sound very fair. There has to be a two-way street.

 

Personally, I can't figure out why the STUPID AMERICAN PUBLIC cares so much about Hollywood "STARS" anyway. Most didn't graduate from high school. Most jump from bed-to-bed, boyfriend/girlfriend to boyfriend/girlfriend and husband/wife the way others change clothes. The vast majority of them can't or won't stay married! Many use drugs and drink excessively. Many think fame is more important than God and family. They have nannies raising their children and then wonder why their kids end up in treatment facilities!

 

I turn off the TV shows that highlight celebs. I would rather watch shows on average Americans who give back by helping others in their communities. Most celebs donate almost NOTHING to charity yet advocate high taxes and socialism (as they live in their penthouses and their kids attend private schools).

 

Personally, I could care less what the paparazi are doing. I think both the celebs and the paparzzi DESERVE eachother, with the exception of the few REAL QUALITY "stars" like Billy Crystal (married over 2 decades, a great and involved father, etc) and a VERY few others.

 

Let's stop valuing overpaid sports stars, music stars and Hollywood stars. The true heros are NOT them. Do you think Jesus would care less about them as "stars?" He would hate all this greed and materialism and all the value we place on superficial "stuff." How our world is going down the tubes fast....

 

 
March 11, 2008, 8:52 am CDT

Ask Gene Simmons to Retract His Remark

Quote From: lashru

First: nothing at all to say in support of paparazzi.  They are leeches who have clearly contributed to much unhappiness for people in the news, they have doubtless contributed to celebrity suicides and self-destruction, and they are now clearly endangering public and private safety by things like interfering with a celebrity's right to drive on the public roads.

However.

Mr. Simmon's threat that if a paparazzi came near his kids, he would "set your pets on fire," is atrocious, even if he never has the capacity to carry out the threat.  Mr. Simmons, do you honestly believe it's right or fair for  you to torture and kill a small helpless animal in retaliation for someone's approaching your children?  Do you believe that's a healthy response?  How about "I will set YOU on fire"... this at least puts the punishment where the blame lies.

You have sought and embraced your celebrity with gusto, so now you have a responsibility to not put ideas like this in the minds of your fans.  If you don't want those fans, drop out of the very public life you lead.  Otherwise, accept the responsibility that comes with your fame and fortune (let us not forget your fortune), and don't suggest to your fans that a reasonable response to a threat to your family is to find the threat's helpless and utterly innocent, completely dependent, pet and set it on fire.

I've watched you on the Celebrity Apprentice, and I've been entertained by your music; your bombast has been amusing until now.  Now you're just vile and offensive, and a very real threat to me and my pets - not because i'm a paparazzi (I'm not, I'm just a housewife), but because some moron fan of yours now has the idea in his head that it's "cool" to set animals on fire in retaliation for whatever offense I might give him.

Shame on you.

Thank you for your cogent response. I'm in my 50's but I always kinda liked Gene Simmons...until now. His barbaric remark shows tragic insensitivity to the reality of animal abuse. Surely he can think of another a better way to say that his kids are off-limits to the paparazzi.

I hope Gene Simmons has the integrity to step forward and denounce his comment. I say this knowing that it will call attention to what he said - so be it so long as he espouses kindness to animals.

 
March 11, 2008, 9:41 am CDT

Just Give the Paparazzi What They Want, Okay?

I have said this before on the boards, and I’m willing to repeat myself, because this is exactly what I believe should happen so this wouldn’t be so much of a problem.  Instead of fighting the paparazzi, why don't these celebrities just cooperate with them, and talk to them, answering whatever questions they may have, even posing for them.

I know that writing for the tabloids, and taking the million-dollar picture of a celebrity shopping for the latest Donna Karan, is not what many people would call journalism. Hell, I would advise aspiring journalists to keep away from the tabloids. But let's think about it. Tabloids continue to be the highest selling papers in North America, because people want to know what's going on with their favorite celebrities, and this kind of news sells. As long as it continues to sell well, this problem will not go away (unless the White House forces all tabloid magazines to shut down, which is not high on their priority list.)

That said, my only advice is "if you can't beat them (which is impossible), cooperate with them."  A certain cliché comes into mind when defending this profession, and that is, “It’s a living.”  After all, if a paparazzi picture could sell for a much as $500,000 (more than enough for me to live comfortably in an apartment), then all I have to say is even a paparazzo has to eat and pay bills, too.  Some may even have wives and/or children to support.

There should be really nothing to it. Simply smile and pose for them if they want to take your picture (you should be flattered that they want to have your image in their paper.) And if they ask if your marriage is on the rock, or how you feel about your latest film becoming a blockbuster (again, you should be flattered that they want to know this,) tell them the truth. "No, I don't think my marriage to [insert spouse's name here] is on the rocks. It's just some security and control issues that I'm looking into counselling for. I may even have to drag my husband/wife there." "Yes, I did punch out Avril Lavigne at that party. Not only were we both drunk, but I've had it with her coming to you guys and saying how rude I supposedly am to my fans' parents. She is [censored] lying." The truth will set you free to get everywhere.

I'm sorry if this sounds insensitive, but learning about these horror stories in entertainment news has taught me that being famous comes with a certain price, and need for certain sacrifices. This is why I would advise aspiring Hollywood stars, "Be prepared to give up your privacy. Once you become famous, your private life becomes fair game for the tabloids. I know it sounds as ugly as it is, but the media is actually a part of celebrity life, just like the Mafia is part of Italian culture."

I know if I were a celebrity, I would take this advice to avoid waging war immediately. It would be better to just go along with what they want than to have the media blast you for your violent actions. It's almost tempting to write in and say, "I'm so sick and tired of people who say they treasure their privacy so highly. Really? Then don't get into the celebrity lifestyle!"

You may disagree with me, which is fine. I'm just stating what I would do if I were in this situation.  Perhaps Britney Spears would be in a whole different state if she just cooperated with the paparazzi to begin with – and quit refusing to seek the help she badly needs.

 
March 11, 2008, 9:50 am CDT

Gene Simmons?

 Man am I glad that Gene Simmons loves women. LOL He was cracking me up.  I don't know who he is but must admit he's right.  I get magazines first and formost because I am going to school for Cosmetology and like to see what stars are wearing and doing with their hair.  I love checking ads for new cosmetics that I will just love ( check out the new highlighting mascara by Max Factor).  The truth of the matter though, is when i get to a picture of Lindsay, etc.  I wonder what they are doing now.  It is a escape from my reality.  I got married at 19 no complaints hes wonderful, but  I never got to experience those wild ways.  Since Britney Spears drama though I have changed my view.  I wondered if paparazzi had anything to do with her breakdown.  As a young parent I feel for her.  I hope she can change her life for her babies. So i've since moved on to magazines like Oprah, Ladies home journal, and Redbook which have articles that make me think about me and how to improve within myself.   There's always Cosmo when I'm feeling a little naughty.
 
March 11, 2008, 10:56 am CDT

from a dog lover.......

Quote From: doguardian

Thank you for your cogent response. I'm in my 50's but I always kinda liked Gene Simmons...until now. His barbaric remark shows tragic insensitivity to the reality of animal abuse. Surely he can think of another a better way to say that his kids are off-limits to the paparazzi.

I hope Gene Simmons has the integrity to step forward and denounce his comment. I say this knowing that it will call attention to what he said - so be it so long as he espouses kindness to animals.

As a dog lover, I am outraged that anyone under any condition would make such a cruel, vile remark against animals.  Shame on this person,  as well as anyone who supports this insensitive person.
 
March 11, 2008, 11:13 am CDT

Finally someone else who questions the obsession with celebrities

Quote From: flthomcat

I have MIXED FEELINGS about this topic.

 

The celebs sure do want the cameras around, but expect them around only when THEY want them around???? The celebs don't get to USE the photographers when they want and then say 'no' the rest of the time, do they??? Doesn't sound very fair. There has to be a two-way street.

 

Personally, I can't figure out why the STUPID AMERICAN PUBLIC cares so much about Hollywood "STARS" anyway. Most didn't graduate from high school. Most jump from bed-to-bed, boyfriend/girlfriend to boyfriend/girlfriend and husband/wife the way others change clothes. The vast majority of them can't or won't stay married! Many use drugs and drink excessively. Many think fame is more important than God and family. They have nannies raising their children and then wonder why their kids end up in treatment facilities!

 

I turn off the TV shows that highlight celebs. I would rather watch shows on average Americans who give back by helping others in their communities. Most celebs donate almost NOTHING to charity yet advocate high taxes and socialism (as they live in their penthouses and their kids attend private schools).

 

Personally, I could care less what the paparazi are doing. I think both the celebs and the paparzzi DESERVE eachother, with the exception of the few REAL QUALITY "stars" like Billy Crystal (married over 2 decades, a great and involved father, etc) and a VERY few others.

 

Let's stop valuing overpaid sports stars, music stars and Hollywood stars. The true heros are NOT them. Do you think Jesus would care less about them as "stars?" He would hate all this greed and materialism and all the value we place on superficial "stuff." How our world is going down the tubes fast....

 

A breath of fresh air!  Finally someone else who questions the public's obsession with celebrities!  I could never never understand how people could be so ridiculously obsessed with the lives of people who they don't know and who have no bearing on their lives whatsoever.  Who cares if Jennifer Aniston got dumped by Brad Pitt or who in Hollywood is pregnant? Most of these people are arrogant and very self-centered and not the kind of people one would pick for a friend.  You are absolutely right... the REAL heros of the world are not these "stars" -they are those who are unselfish and help others and give of themselves.   I can only think that those who obsess on the lives of these people must not have much going on in their own lives.

 

And the whining about the paparazzi?  These people (and their big egos) wanted to be in the spotlight to begin with.  Now that they have their fame and fortune, they want to be SELECTIVELY in the spotlight.  I guess you can't have it both ways......

 
March 11, 2008, 11:24 am CDT

03/11 Dr. Phil Now: Targeting the Paparazzi

personally I'm a fan of Celeb gossip, but at the same time I do believe that it has come to a disturbing peak. when they go as far as being a safety matter is where I'm concerned. As far as the guests that are lined up for the show I feel that Adrien is the wrong person to be discussing the pressures of the paps... given the fact that he seems to immerse himself with great joy including almost seeking out attention from them.   Of course my info is entirely based on tabloids I'll admit, but video is pretty damming evidence.
 
March 11, 2008, 11:40 am CDT

03/11 Dr. Phil Now: Targeting the Paparazzi

Quote From: davewriter

I have said this before on the boards, and Im willing to repeat myself, because this is exactly what I believe should happen so this wouldnt be so much of a problem.  Instead of fighting the paparazzi, why don't these celebrities just cooperate with them, and talk to them, answering whatever questions they may have, even posing for them.

I know that writing for the tabloids, and taking the million-dollar picture of a celebrity shopping for the latest Donna Karan, is not what many people would call journalism. Hell, I would advise aspiring journalists to keep away from the tabloids. But let's think about it. Tabloids continue to be the highest selling papers in North America, because people want to know what's going on with their favorite celebrities, and this kind of news sells. As long as it continues to sell well, this problem will not go away (unless the White House forces all tabloid magazines to shut down, which is not high on their priority list.)

That said, my only advice is "if you can't beat them (which is impossible), cooperate with them."  A certain cliché comes into mind when defending this profession, and that is, Its a living.  After all, if a paparazzi picture could sell for a much as $500,000 (more than enough for me to live comfortably in an apartment), then all I have to say is even a paparazzo has to eat and pay bills, too.  Some may even have wives and/or children to support.

There should be really nothing to it. Simply smile and pose for them if they want to take your picture (you should be flattered that they want to have your image in their paper.) And if they ask if your marriage is on the rock, or how you feel about your latest film becoming a blockbuster (again, you should be flattered that they want to know this,) tell them the truth. "No, I don't think my marriage to [insert spouse's name here is on the rocks. It's just some security and control issues that I'm looking into counselling for. I may even have to drag my husband/wife there." "Yes, I did punch out Avril Lavigne at that party. Not only were we both drunk, but I've had it with her coming to you guys and saying how rude I supposedly am to my fans' parents. She is [censored lying." The truth will set you free to get everywhere.

I'm sorry if this sounds insensitive, but learning about these horror stories in entertainment news has taught me that being famous comes with a certain price, and need for certain sacrifices. This is why I would advise aspiring Hollywood stars, "Be prepared to give up your privacy. Once you become famous, your private life becomes fair game for the tabloids. I know it sounds as ugly as it is, but the media is actually a part of celebrity life, just like the Mafia is part of Italian culture."

I know if I were a celebrity, I would take this advice to avoid waging war immediately. It would be better to just go along with what they want than to have the media blast you for your violent actions. It's almost tempting to write in and say, "I'm so sick and tired of people who say they treasure their privacy so highly. Really? Then don't get into the celebrity lifestyle!"

You may disagree with me, which is fine. I'm just stating what I would do if I were in this situation.  Perhaps Britney Spears would be in a whole different state if she just cooperated with the paparazzi to begin with and quit refusing to seek the help she badly needs.

The problem with this idea is that there's ALWAYS one more question, one more picture, etc.

 

No one gives up their right to privacy because of their career. Some things the world just doesn't need to be involved in. It's like saying that the person who does your family photos can follow you around and take pictures any time they feel like it is okay because you gave them permission to do it once.

 

You suggest that they tell whomever should ask about their personal lives just because they ask. Do you? Would you tell a perfect stranger, "Yes, my marriage is on the rocks and I'm talking to a divorce attorney." simply because they ask? No, most people would tell that person to go do something with themselves as it's NONE OF THEIR BUSINESS. Same goes for the public figures. Sometimes things are just none of anyone's business.

 
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