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Created on : Monday, March 10, 2008, 04:11:33 pm
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How would you feel if an airline banned you for how you looked? According to two young women, they’ve been banned for life from flying Southwest Airlines. Sarah and Nisreen made national news when they were escorted off a plane because they say the airline had a problem with them because they were “young and decent-looking” and their flight attendants were “middle-aged.” Southwest denies treating the women unfairly because of their appearance and says the women used vulgar language, obscene gestures and aggressive behavior. Joining the conversation is Kyla, who says she was told by Southwest that her outfit was too skimpy, and two other passengers who say the airline booted them because they were women. Then, McKay is a 15-year-old on a mission to end cussing. He founded a No Cussing Club at his high school and wants to inspire others to stop swearing and examine the power of words. McKay’s campaign has even motivated his mayor to pass a proclamation for a No Cussing Week in his hometown. Don’t miss reactions from the teen’s family and classmates! If it’s happening now, Dr. Phil is going to deal with it now! Join the discussion.

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April 1, 2008, 9:59 am CDT

03/14 Dr. Phil Now: Fly Girls

Quote From: juliebgg

As a teacher of four year olds, I have the chance to observe many different parenting techniques. These differing parenting styles result in a wide range of behaviors from their children.  At one end there are the "always polite" kids who say please and thank you and wait their turns. At the other end, there are the kids that throw tantrums whenever they don't get their way, hit other kids, and some of the language and gestures they use would make your hair stand on end. (BTW, I am not looking to get into another debate about words here!!) Then there are all sorts of combinations of in between behaviors.

As a teacher I set reasonable standards for behavior in the classroom. Four year olds will question why they are not allowed to do certain things at school that they do at home.  I explain to them that different places have different rules, and that while they are at school they need to follow our classroom rules. It is amazing how kids can separate the different expectations from different areas of their lives.  Parents are amazed to see their kids cleaning up and putting away toys in the classroom and will comment that they never do this at home.  I explain that we teach the kids to do this from the first day of school, and they know it is expected of them.

 

I agree with you Penny and ramair about parents who just let their kids run around in public places.  They drive me crazy too.  And I know that four year olds are capable of better behavior because I work with them every day. Unless there is an underlying medical or psychological reason  for the behavior, it has everything to do with the expectations and rules set forth  by the parents, and about how they react when their kids do act up.  I can sympathize with a parent who is trying to comfort a cranky toddler on an airplane, but  I have no tolerance for parents who let their three year olds run continuously down the aisles of that same plane.

 

 

 

 

Many times, Dr Phil's quests are parents with children who mind everyone but them. Those who command respect get it.
 
April 1, 2008, 10:18 am CDT

03/14 Dr. Phil Now: Fly Girls

Quote From: rainpainrain

I feel that the best parenting methods take the wisdom of older generations and the wisdom of current ideas and combine them to fit their lives.

I do agree...parents who let their kids run all over hell and back in public DRIVE ME CRAZY. Not only is it annoying and dangerous it is a bad example to other kids...I have to pull out my "not all parents have the same rules" speech when this happens...and my daughter understands (as much as a nearly 4 year old can) but I can still see the tugs of wishing she could run around too.

The most awesome thing my daughter ever did though was in Walmart, we were walking around gathering items and another kid in the store was screaming so loud you could hear him EVERYWHERE...and this is in a SUPER WALMART...HUGE store, a store the size of a city block nearly...and you could hear him screaming and screaming...after about 5 minutes the mom pushed the cart past us while the kid was screaming and Emma just said "That boy is CRAZY! Why is he yelling and yelling?" LMFAO! It was great!

The poor little boy looked exhausted, I felt terrible for him, he couldn't have been over 3 years old...that mother shouldn't have been there dragging that kid through the store...I mean, if I was annoyed, imagine how annoyed that poor little boy was!

 
I've been in many shopping environments where one kid could be heard from one end to the other. Mass merchandisers with "low" prices, such as Wal-Mart, seems to draw the most parents who make no effort to curb such behavior.
As a former Wal-Mart associate, for 12 years, I was exposed to quite a lot of this.
Sometimes the mother of such a kid would come in the front door, and slo-owly work her way around the entire perimeter, never putting anything in her cart. Making my customers, co-workers, and me suspect that the mother was deliberately using her kid to irritate us.
Some days, at least half-a-dozen mothers would bring such kids to the store. "Bring your brats to Wal-Mart day" I'd call it.

 
April 1, 2008, 3:49 pm CDT

ramair, you are so funny!!!

Quote From: ramair

I've been in many shopping environments where one kid could be heard from one end to the other. Mass merchandisers with "low" prices, such as Wal-Mart, seems to draw the most parents who make no effort to curb such behavior.
As a former Wal-Mart associate, for 12 years, I was exposed to quite a lot of this.
Sometimes the mother of such a kid would come in the front door, and slo-owly work her way around the entire perimeter, never putting anything in her cart. Making my customers, co-workers, and me suspect that the mother was deliberately using her kid to irritate us.
Some days, at least half-a-dozen mothers would bring such kids to the store. "Bring your brats to Wal-Mart day" I'd call it.

ramair, I've got to say you have  a great sense of humor!  I'm sure it helps you get through days such as "Bring you brats to Wal-mart Day"!!!
 
April 5, 2008, 3:42 pm CDT

Speaking of Southwest..........

Southwest has a whole new set of problems to deal with, huh?
 
April 8, 2008, 9:09 am CDT

sorry????

Quote From: barb7849

I am speaking for the Fly Girls, Sarah and Nisreen.  I am from the Tampa area and we have a radio station down here that has a morning show and they are the ones that gave the Fly Girls the title of TOO PRETTY TO FLY.  The girls never said that that might be the reason until this morning show gave them that title.  I don't know what happened on the flight and I hope no airline would ever treat people like that. I have never flown Southwest.  I have flown Jet Blue and Delta when I travel up North.  I hate to think what I would feel like if anyone treated me like that.  But I always say there are 3 sides to a story. Theirs, the airline and the truth. The truth is that only God knows............ It's their word against the airline.  I have never gotten treated badly on any of my trips up North.  I have heard a lot of people complain about Southwest, but I don't judge unless I am treated badly.   I hope I never have to experience anything like that.

 Uh go watch the show again - they put their looks into play in THIER letter to the news media from the very beginning
 
April 30, 2008, 9:30 am CDT

too pretty to fly

I thought you were unfair to these girls.  You asked them if they coined the term "too pretty to fly" and they said "No."  They used some similar terminology in their description of the situation, but it was the media that coined the term.  If someone spoke to me the way I can only guess that man did by the bathroom, I may have cursed him out and called him a scumbag, too.
 
May 3, 2008, 10:52 am CDT

03/14 Dr. Phil Now: Fly Girls

Quote From: catripruo

I thought you were unfair to these girls.  You asked them if they coined the term "too pretty to fly" and they said "No."  They used some similar terminology in their description of the situation, but it was the media that coined the term.  If someone spoke to me the way I can only guess that man did by the bathroom, I may have cursed him out and called him a scumbag, too.
Watch the show again. Listen to Nisreen consistantly deny being the first to coin the "too pretty to fly" term. Listen to Dr Phil read her email in which she wrote those words. Watch her  Nisreen squirm as he reads her email. Listen to her "yeah, but" this and "yeah but" that as she finally admits  coining the "too pretty to fly" term. And, watch her try to change the subject once she got caught lying about the origin of that term. Two twenty-somethings so immature and stuck-up it's no wonder some guys their age prefer relationships with older women.
 
May 9, 2008, 12:06 pm CDT

03/14 Dr. Phil Now: Fly Girls

Quote From: Pleasance

Little Miss Sunshine ... the movie is NOT PG 13.

 

Little Miss Sunshine is rated R, not meant for any children. 

 

This was a movie about a disfunctional family dynamic.

 

Rated R !!!

 

 

Thanks for the heads-up.
 
March 12, 2009, 3:04 pm CDT

Fine

Quote From: mtngal

Foul language, obsene jesters and the like?  Put them in a play pen in the back of the p;ane with a sign that reads simply "BRATS"!!!
I suppose you don't mind supporting this grandstander?
 
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