Topic : 03/17 Bishop T.D. Jakes

Agreed.

 

These policial wives have had decades of learning how to act and speak so as to help get their husbands elected to office (sometimes MANY offices). They walk the walk and talk the talk IN PUBLIC, but just imagine what life is like behind closed doors!

 

Also, I am confident she wanted to rip his throat out, but she is  the mother of his children, so her immediate thoughts are probably on what is the best way to behave for the sake of the children (regardless of their ages). She will most likely do the public "dance" for the cameras and also for the children, but show a different side of herself in private.

 

And, of course, her livelihood DOES go down the toilet when her husband's does, so her welfare IS dependent upon his. It must be scary to think that the income will stop, especially when you've stayed home to raise the family and be the social organizer for years. She is going to do what it takes to have him land on his feet. HER income and that of her children's dependents upon it!

I think that a spiritual perspective is wonderful.  I also think that Dr. Phil has a spiritual perspective of his own.  That is why his advice is usually on point.  What I have a problem with is when Dr. Phil refers to "the fastest growing mega church in the country."  What is a mega church?  Is Dr. Phil pushing his religion on us?  I have a religion and go to church every week.  Is Dr. Phil into sheep stealing these days?  It makes me uncomfortable when he promotes a "church" rather than a perspective.

I don't know what's right in the situation with Spitzer and his wife Silda...whether or not she should stand by him. Who knows what's in either of their hearts? It's easy for us to jump in and say she should leave his dumb behind, and that that's what we would do....but, since we aren't in that particular situation, we don't know for sure. 

 

There's no doubt that what he did was despicable and sleazy and that he put his wife in a horrible position. I don't see how he could really love her...or himself, for that matter...and do what he did. You can't be in your right mind and do this over and over.

 

He definitely needs some serious help!

 

As for Rachelle and Rob, thank God Dr. Phil has offered Rob some excellent, real help to get that family back on track. They all seem like such great people....nice kids who love their Dad so much.

 

Dr Phil, you rock!

Serial infidelity such as Clinton's is human?  And spending $80,000 on hookers, including $5,500 for one hour, is a mistake, as one gal in the audience put it? Get real. Sptizer was elected governor, with 70% of the vote, because he broke up several prostitution rings. Nope, getting involved with another of these rings was not a mistake. It was something no wife should stand for. I'm on the same page with Robin on this one.

Well said.

 

Religion itself seems to always be under some kind of attack from those who don't want to think about the possibility that they just may be wrong about their opposite beliefs. They are the ones who seem to get the angriest when faced with any statement made in Faith. It makes satan mad.

 

Not my problem. I don't have to answer for them.

 

 

 Come on the man admitted to the crime,

so this is not an attack on him, as for his wife, she should have had more respect from that two timing man when she was standing by his side, he should have at least looked at her

Mrs. Spitzer is a whole lot smarter than her husband.  She graduated above him, she had a job that paid her far more money than his did him.  She decided to help build his political career so she has to take the good with the bad. She chose to marry him and to continue to stand next to him "for better or worse".  The vows do not say better or worse because of something someone else did or you did or your spouse it is just better or worse. I admire her for continuing to stand beside him.  Maybe instead of helping build his political career she should have built her own.

I totally agree that Spitzer should step down because he's not in that high a position where it will be to anyone's detriment if he does.  And, by the way, he should NOT be given credit for admitting he was wrong: he didn't have a choice..he was SO busted! If not for that, he would still be doing it, so I have a hard time believing he 'fessed up for any reason other than he got caught..and if he was sorry for anything, it was only that.

 

But, Clinton, although he did a REALLY stupid thing with that bimbo, he was, in my opinion, a good president, and for him to have stepped down over that would have put our country in jeopardy.. ...because look who would have taken over!  His affair was wrong and stupid, but didn't put us as a country in danger.  (Made us look bad, for sure...but didn't put us in danger as it may have if he had just stepped down.  Also, he didn't do anything that wasn't done by probably every other president down through history....he just got caught.  And, please, don't jump on and tell me that what you think I'm saying is that it was acceptable for him or any other president.....of COURSE it wasn't!!)

 

And yes, the media went into a frenzy over what Clinton did....don't they always when a public official messes up? A person in power is held to a higher standard....as they should  be....and when it's shown that they have feet of clay people seem to take a perverse pleasure in pouncing on that. Just an observation. We want, and should expect....and have a right to expect....those in power to behave with honesty and morality. We want to look to them for guidance befitting their positions, and are disappointed when they fall short of our expectations. Deception is always disappointing.

 

I believe that when someone takes a position of power, they should do so with the intent of carrying out those duties of office in a way that will benefit others....but, we all know too many only get into office for the money and the power and couldn't care less about their constituents....and those who do enter politics with good intentions soon are overwhelmed with corruption and fall into step.

 

Absolute power corrupts absolutely. 

It cracks me up how people try to minimize bad behavior.  "It was a mistake.  Everyone makes mistakes.  It's human".  I suppose it is all a part of the I'm-not -accountable-for-my-failings society.   Either someone else is to blame, or the behavior is minimized but whatever you do, don't expect anyone to be accountable and take ownership for their own wrongdoing!!! And heaven forbid they should have any consequences for their behavior.

I think that ultimately without knowing every aspect of what was going on, and I truly try not to be judgemental about things..I do have to say it took alot of courage for Elliott's wife to get up there in front of everyone as he was announcing his resignation...Robin has a very, very highly intelligent disposition on this, todays woman would say..."no way, I'm not havin this"...although what he did was considered morally wrong by most...either way it goes, is deserving...meaning...if she left him it would be just as deserving as if she stayed and forgiven...ultimately it is up to them, something they have to work out amongst eachother..not knowing what kind of ties the relationship has to begin with, however having been through over and under the infidelity ring myself, and having to truly know what it means to forgive, do what is necessary to fix the situation, and move on is very vital in the relationship not only to themselves but to the kids as well, if they cannot manage to do what is necessary to mend this, and rid it of their lives, their relationship will have no quality to it again anyway....however, pretending it to go away, or that it didn't exist, or not doing anything at all, is only recipe for more matrimonial disaster, they're really gonna have to put it all out on the line to mend this situation privately while they can, because of the public exposure it's gotten.....he will be a key ingredient to how things go from this point on, I wish them prayers and blessings in their marital recovery....it's gonna be a long rough road to say the least...