Topic : 03/17 Bishop T.D. Jakes

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Created on : Friday, March 14, 2008, 02:35:28 pm
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Are you stuck in an emotional, marital or financial rut? Dr. Phil has advice for reshaping your future, and he’s bringing reinforcements! Joining him is Bishop T.D. Jakes, pastor of one of the fastest-growing mega-churches in the country and author of Reposition Yourself. First up, Dr. Phil and Bishop Jakes tackle a shocking story that made headlines. Tongues wagged when New York Governor Eliot Spitzer resigned over a sex scandal. Should his wife, Silda, have stood by his side? Robin weighs in with a woman’s perspective. And, Rachelle says her husband, Rob, was unjustly fired from his job as a police officer more than eight years ago, and the incident was highly publicized. Rob says his life was turned upside down and admits he hasn't been much of a father or husband since the firing. His four children say they want their "vacation dad" to be their full-time dad. What's really at the root of Rob's pain, and what will it take for him to return to being the man Rachelle married? Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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March 17, 2008, 3:13 pm PDT

The police officer

This story broke my heart.  A drunk driver tries to run him over, he shoots, and HE is charged with attempted murder?? This is NOT a "get over it" situation. This man's life was nearly destroyed!! Okay, it's been 8 years; he needs help, but where the hell is the compassion??

 

About 20 years ago, my life was nearly destroyed by a severe reaction to a medication that took nearly THREE YEARS to stop. The effects were severe and too numerous to mention, and I was treated like a pariah by my entire school as a result of it. Only because of the love of my family and friends did I survive and walk on. His wife needs to get a clue and realize how much he was put through. Only then can he truly begin to heal.

 

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March 17, 2008, 3:19 pm PDT

Walk One MIle

I find it insulting that anyone could possibly know what  Mrs. Spitzer is feeling as she goes thru this horendous time, in the direct eye of the public.    I truely believe the majority of married couples in America have dealt with infidelity on some level or another during their relationships.      The fact that she chose to stand next to him,  which I am sure had much more to do with her children, rather than her relationship with him.    Doubt  Robin  or anyone knows  what they would do until they were in that position,  or more acurately  caught being unfaithful.  At times  it is not all about  the husband  or wife   whomever cheated, but putting your children first  and foremost  above some shallow santimonious martyr.      Thank God for the Reverand,  the only one that made one iota of sense to me on this subject.
 
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March 17, 2008, 3:23 pm PDT

Being a cop

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My son was a cop too and had a horrible time being a cop and a family man.  He has been to hell and not back yet.  The problem is that cops think they are the job and they lose themselves in the process.  We want them to protect us, but we also don't want them to be "human".  Hello, they are human beings and not super heroes.   Cops need tons of counseling to stay "normal".   Do a show on cops ex wives.

 

I was deeply reminded as I watched the show about the officer that lost his career after a shooting incident. I too wear his shoes and know that feeling that he has lived with all these years. I had a similar incident and lost my career which I loved. And the devastation cost me my family along with my livelihood all because of {in my opinion} politics. After that, I  could no longer find employment in my chosen field. This happened to me back in the early 80's and to this day I can not maintain a relationship and I have very few friends. I am self employed but still prefer to remain alone and shut others out. So I applaud you DR Phil for seeing this man's pain and coming to his aid. I hope that for himself as well as his family he follows through with your offers, gets the help  and saves his family as well as himself. And maybe someday the public will realize that cops are human and that deep inside they feel pain and love and only want to do a good days work protecting all of us from harm.
 
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March 17, 2008, 3:24 pm PDT

Spitzer's Wife

Number one I 100% agree with Robin. I honestly do not believe that she should have been out there with him.  The bishop is right we don't know there personal life, the only thing is as a fellow New Yorker she is supposed to represent us women and that is why I feel she shouldn't have been out there.  There personal life is all over my television set so it is my business and yeah Dr. Phil is right a relationship can survive infidelity if it happened once maybe even twice anymore then that and he is making her look like an idiot.  The bishop said we don't know the relationship they have she probably knows he still loves her.  I'm sorry I have to disagree if a man loves a women he doesn't treat her like scum by being a public figure and doing something like that to your wife.  Dr. Phil if your reading this and my TV time was interrupted by the something but it was you and Robin out there I would be mad at Robin for standing behind you and I will NEVER watch your show again because NO man should treat a women like that.  If he really loved her he would have NEVER done that.  Someone in the audience said that mistakes happen oh i didn't know that giving a prostitute money and sleeping with her was accident or a mistake.  Oops sorry honey I just fell that,  that STD you got from me wasn't my fault it was a mistake I didn't mean to sleep with another women.  COME ON!  People seriously i do not care what anyone says there is no way it can be a mistake.

 

Dr. Phil said something about Hilary Clinton.  I need to speak on her.  From the time that whole thing about Clinton came out I lost all respect for her.  She is supposed to stand up and represent all women in the US.  She stood behind him the whole time I wasn't happy about it but I thought that it was because he's in office but once his term is done so will there marriage.  I was wrong this is the 2000's not the 1950's women are supposed to be strong and independent you get married to share your life not give up your life for any man.  I will NEVER vote for her to be president because once again she is supposed to represent all women and I don't want someone who is not a strong women and who allows anyone to make her look stupid represent me.  I want a strong independent women one who doesn't need a man to define who she is.  If she left Bill then I would be like wow she finally grew a set and realized he made her look stupid in front of millions of people.

 
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March 17, 2008, 3:29 pm PDT

Wow, you said it!

I agree with Mrs. Dr. Phil completely! No WAY should the wife in that scandal be 'standing up' for him! He doesn't deserve it! I really admire DR. Phil's wife  because she has a good sense of right&wrong.(I think she makes Dr. Phil behave.    :-)
 
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March 17, 2008, 3:30 pm PDT

Today's Show

    I personally feel like their is way to much getting on the band wagon with these talk shows about families problems that just don't need to be aired over and over.Dr. Phil you have gotten in so many peoples lives that i really feel like is none of your business and it just puts hurt and bad feelings to the family on both sides .How would you like it if every time you turned on the TV you saw your face and your wife's face there telling over and over how you spent so much money on some escort service,i don't know these people but i think with the news stations putting it on is enough ,you don't need to put yours and that Bishops nose in it there is enough smeared already you don't need to smear anymore.I can tell you ,as far as I'm concerned and i imagine a Lotta folks too that you are starting to get like all the rest of these talk shows ,just a bunch of mess trying to hurt more for the families that you or anyone else on your show can't do anything about except run your mouths..
 
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March 17, 2008, 3:38 pm PDT

Women standing with their man

 

She may be behind him at this point & time, I would suggest that she is decimated now; in shock & anger and the other emotions will come.  We cannot presume that this is the end of this for her.

 
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March 17, 2008, 3:42 pm PDT

Freedom for Ex-Police Officer/Vacation Dad

I really feel for you and I would have done the exact same thing you did if I had confronted that drunk driver myself 8 years ago.  I'm not sure what you're going through, but if you're feeling convicted and guilty then you can have total freedom today if you will just accept that Jesus died for our transgressions 2000 years ago.  We're all "off the hook" if we can just accept that he died and rose from the dead, and in doing so took all of our sins upon Him for our salvation.  Even the apostle Paul sentenced Christians to death, but he was totally forgiven and went on to be one of God's greatest advocates and wrote most of the New Testament.  You're a free man in Jesus Christ if you can accept this truth.  John 3:16,17  "For God so loved the world that He gave his only Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life.  For God sent the Son into the world, not to condemn the world, but that the world might be saved through Him." 
 
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March 17, 2008, 3:46 pm PDT

i agree with robin too!

I had a 30 year marriage (very violent and many affairs on his part) we moved to north Idaho for a new start and believed that God had sent us up here.  A year or so after we moved here my ex-husband began a relationship with a fellow member of our church, everyone knew about it, even the pastor!!! no one told me. I had begun to believ that we were past all that crap, however one night i found out by asking him why he seemed so disconnected from me, he said he was interested in someone else.  After a few days of fighting or not talking, I began to think that i could not do whatever it took ro make my marriage work.  And suicide was the best option.  But I asked him one more time what can I do to fix this? he said I don't know. I asked him if it was "unamed" he said yes.  i told him i was going to tell everyone, he said he would stay if i kept the secret and i did, why do women do this???? about a year later I found out his plan was to dump me in a dumpy apt and run off with her, by acting like he was leaving for work and not coming home.  and other things i don't want to get into right now.  more lying and hiding things from me....it ended in an awful divorce.  I can't believe that I could trust, believe in him, and even believe in our marriage, that i would stay and continue the torture to myself and the kids.  I feel guilty for the kids(all grown now) I am in counceling and finally seeing daylight, but it has been a long long road.  I just would like to understand how men would/could think "why get a divorce? when i can just do whatever i want"  and women would/could let them?!?!?!?!
 
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March 17, 2008, 3:52 pm PDT

Judge Not...

 Who are we to sit in the judgement seat of this couple? We don't know anything about them. We as a society condemn the man because of position he holds in our society.  For all we know, his actions could be the direct result of her infidelity towards him. She could be standing by her man out of guilt.  For all we know she could have full well known she was married to a man with a problem and said she would stand by him because he has more good qualities as a man and as a father than his over the top hooker joy ride. We don't know their family "DNA". Am I defending him no. I am a Christian woman who believes in the sanctity of marriage. I just feel there are too many things we don't know about this couple to judge one way or the other.
 

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