Topic : 08/19 Tired of Being a Mom

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(Original Air Dare: 03/25/08) Motherhood isn't always about the good times, like baking brownies and having game night with the family. Dr. Phil talks to women who say they can’t cope with their children, and they’re running out of resources. Robyn adopted her 10-year-old daughter, Alyssa, six years ago from the Ukraine and says she actually has thoughts of sending the girl back. Robyn says that Alyssa hasn’t bonded with her and doesn’t know how to love anyone. She says her daughter screams, cries, yells and even threatened to kill herself! Robyn’s husband, Joe, can’t imagine living without his adoptive daughter and intends to stand by his commitment to the child. What's the real reason Robyn never bonded with Alyssa? Then, Cyndi says if she’d known her 12-year-old son, Alex, had autism and Down syndrome, she may not have brought him into the world. She says he hits himself, screams, grunts at the top of his lungs and wears two pairs of diapers at a time because he’s not potty trained. Her husband, Ulis, says he doesn’t find it difficult to care for Alex, but Cyndi says she’s exhausted and overwhelmed. Should the boy be institutionalized? Find out what Dr. Phil thinks. Plus, meet a mom with four kids who’s already left home twice. Now she’s scared she may leave again — this time for good. Talk about the show here.

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April 2, 2008, 12:04 pm PDT

abandonment?

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It was a question I inferred to you, a conclusion, that I have made over and over again about them finding out in school  or tv.  but if I need to be more direct with you, I'll try to help you out.

 

No backtracking for me, I answer your questions, why can't you answer mine? did you look up mental abuse yet? Why didn''t she get help where it wouldn't hurt her kids? doesn't a good mom protect her children,

I told them that by leaving I had a really bad couple days and finally one night when my hubby got home I told him I needed a break and left the house and spent the night at my friends house. Abandonment? No but I felt GUILTY for needing that break, like something in me thought I shouldn't need to "get away".  I was back the next morning but felt sad that I had missed a night away.

The statement about part of me has died came when we were talking to the staff and they asked if I ever had plans or wishes to ever do anything else besides being a mom, and I said sure, there were lots of different careers I was interested in and things I wanted to do but I feel that part of me has died. I personally feel, NOT SPEAKING FOR ANYONE ELSE (maybe you should try that), but anyways I said I personally feel that it is the children's best interest to have me home with them full time and not drop them off at some strange place and pay someone else to raise them for me just so I could go out and do whatever job I felt a fancy for.  In that aspect I told them I had to, in a sense, let those dreams die, at least until the children were older and all in school.

Keep throwing your jabs dear because with every letter you type, I am realizing, compared to your angry, judgmental nature, just how good a mom I am.

And as far as appearing on the show, I had no idea what the other moms stories were. I believed it was going to be a group of moms discussing how to deal with the guilt we feel when we fall short as parents. Sure you can just say, hey that's just how it is but I looked for that magical switch and couldn't find it.

But you seem to know everything so I guess you already knew that.

 
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April 2, 2008, 12:34 pm PDT

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Not only that...but in and of itself getting help is a GOOD example to kids. I shared how my mother and father hurt me...if they would have admitted their mistake or gotten some help for themselves I would have felt better in general...

I think this that the attack on this mom is not called for...parents are human, they hurt sometimes!

So if you went to get help for yourself, would you leave your child with your parents and step brother? or would you find another way, that would not put your daughter in danger of being hurt.

 

we don't help the parent and hurt the child

 

I've never said she didn't need help,but question the way she went about it.

she did not need to expose her children to her thought, to get helpfor herself, and thats the bottom line, get help but don't hurt your children while you are doing it. what is so hard about that,

we don't throw the kids in front of the bus, we step in front of them.

 
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April 2, 2008, 12:44 pm PDT

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I think you have the story confused.

My half brother molested me when I was 4. My mother and father were already married.

They truly believed they were doing the right thing, the forgiving thing...as wrong as it is.

Anyway, I didn't want to change the subject, I was just trying to give an example of the hurt parents can cause when they are TRYING to do the right thing.
Sorry, I don't recall you specifying who molested you.
 
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April 2, 2008, 12:46 pm PDT

You said it...

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It was a question I inferred to you, a conclusion, that I have made over and over again about them finding out in school  or tv.  but if I need to be more direct with you, I'll try to help you out.

 

No backtracking for me, I answer your questions, why can't you answer mine? did you look up mental abuse yet? Why didn''t she get help where it wouldn't hurt her kids? doesn't a good mom protect her children,

 

Are you so insecure with your own parenting skills that you have to beat up Charity?  Please.  If you read my post, I answered your question directly in another post about abandonment.  Read it, I assume you can. 

 

I can't speak for her children, but I don't personally think it will hurt them at all.  In fact, if I were looking at it from HER child's perspective, I would be glad that mom cared enough about me to bring her stress to a venue where she felt she could get help- hell, I'd be PROUD of her.  Even if they don't totally comprehend what's going on, they know "Mom's on TV, to be a better mom". 

 

I don't think she "abandoned" her children- she never left for good, use the word abandonment properly, please!   Again, if you read my previous post, I addressed this already.

 
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April 2, 2008, 12:48 pm PDT

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I hear you, my son came home today with his first real bullie story, I forget what pharse he used, he loves movies,  I think it was (theres more where that came from) he said that after he knock the kid to the floor. but he had enough of this child pushing him out of line.
I'm kind of confused. So did your son retaliate against a bully after the bully bullied him?
 
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April 2, 2008, 12:56 pm PDT

Thank you..

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Not only that...but in and of itself getting help is a GOOD example to kids. I shared how my mother and father hurt me...if they would have admitted their mistake or gotten some help for themselves I would have felt better in general...

I think this that the attack on this mom is not called for...parents are human, they hurt sometimes!

 

Penny,

 

Thank you for sharing that part of your life here, it offers a great point of view from a former child- now adult and how you feel about your relationship with your parents.  I can't imagine your hurt from the actions of your parents, and I can't speak for all kids.  Surely there are children out there who are abused and abandoned- and I'm empathetic to any child that hurts from this. But IMO (just IMO) Charity's kids fall into a whole different category- it's comparing apples and oranges.  I didn't see any abuse going on, but that's from an outside perspective. 

 
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April 2, 2008, 1:03 pm PDT

That's fine...

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From this post I'm going out on a limb here, you don't have any children? only a person without kids would make that kind of grandeur statment.

 

Kids do not think that way, they are not thinking about  (as you say )the great things mommy is doing for other people, all they hear is mommy is leaving what did I do to make her want to leave, how can I stop her from leaving. that is a kid for you.

 

Great moms don't throw their children under the bus to help someone else.

strengthening her parent skills is not bad, what is bad is hurting your kids to do it.

 

Play a roll your friend you think your best friend goes on tv. tells the world that their tired of being your friend, and your sucking the life out of them.  how would you feel,  and thats just a friend, know think your a kid and its your mother who told the world that,   think about it and get back to me.

 

Not all kids think that way.  That's one way a kid COULD think, but not how ALL kids think.  Can you jump inside someone's brain?  I didn't know you were telepathic.  I guarantee youre not perfect either, or instead of attacking another MOM online, you'd be taking care of your kid like you should be.  Grow up and take care of your kid!  How does THAT sound to you?

 

Is she hurting her kids, probably NOT.  I seriously doubt it.  All Charity has to do is talk to her kids about it and explain that she was getting help.  Kids are always going to tease other kids about SOMETHING (as a mom, you should KNOW that)... then they'll tease someone else when they get bored with that kid.  It's most likely NOT going to create as much drama as you say it does.

 
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April 2, 2008, 1:19 pm PDT

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From this post I'm going out on a limb here, you don't have any children? only a person without kids would make that kind of grandeur statment.

 

Kids do not think that way, they are not thinking about  (as you say )the great things mommy is doing for other people, all they hear is mommy is leaving what did I do to make her want to leave, how can I stop her from leaving. that is a kid for you.

 

Great moms don't throw their children under the bus to help someone else.

strengthening her parent skills is not bad, what is bad is hurting your kids to do it.

 

Play a roll your friend you think your best friend goes on tv. tells the world that their tired of being your friend, and your sucking the life out of them.  how would you feel,  and thats just a friend, know think your a kid and its your mother who told the world that,   think about it and get back to me.

 

If a friend of mine came on national tv and said she was tired of being my friend and was stressed out all the time, I'd be SUPPORTIVE of her and give her all the time in the world away, even if it meant the end of our friendship.  I dont take it personally, that's just how she feels, and I respect that.

 

If my mom went on national tv and said she was stressed out and spent the night at a friend's house.  Fine.  At least she went to get help- and guess what?  She CAME BACK!   Voila!  All she needs is time away, time with friends, time to talk with other adults, maybe time to pursue a degree online and fulfill some of those dreams or even get a part-time job and still be there to pick me up in the afternoon if it makes her feel fulfilled and "alive".  I'd be SUPPORTIVE!  She didn't throw her kids under the bus at all, she's saying she was overwhelmed. At least she's working on being a good mom by taking breaks and working on being an even better mom, how is THAT bad?

 
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April 2, 2008, 1:23 pm PDT

03/25 Tired of Being a Mom

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So if you went to get help for yourself, would you leave your child with your parents and step brother? or would you find another way, that would not put your daughter in danger of being hurt.

 

we don't help the parent and hurt the child

 

I've never said she didn't need help,but question the way she went about it.

she did not need to expose her children to her thought, to get helpfor herself, and thats the bottom line, get help but don't hurt your children while you are doing it. what is so hard about that,

we don't throw the kids in front of the bus, we step in front of them.

Ok...again, it was my HALF brother. I don't have any step brothers or sisters.

I am not sure why you would assume that a parent getting help would have to leave their kids with anyone....that makes no sense....

She's not perfect...you don't seem to get that parents aren't perfect.
 
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April 2, 2008, 1:48 pm PDT

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I'm kind of confused. So did your son retaliate against a bully after the bully bullied him?
Yes my son retaliated against the bully, the bully was pushing my son out of line, and after couple times of pushing my son out of line   my son pushed back, the other kid got in trouble Gage got a talking to, I guess the other kids in line back up my son story. but know one got hurt. 
 

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