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(Original Air Dare: 03/25/08) Motherhood isn't always about the good times, like baking brownies and having game night with the family. Dr. Phil talks to women who say they can’t cope with their children, and they’re running out of resources. Robyn adopted her 10-year-old daughter, Alyssa, six years ago from the Ukraine and says she actually has thoughts of sending the girl back. Robyn says that Alyssa hasn’t bonded with her and doesn’t know how to love anyone. She says her daughter screams, cries, yells and even threatened to kill herself! Robyn’s husband, Joe, can’t imagine living without his adoptive daughter and intends to stand by his commitment to the child. What's the real reason Robyn never bonded with Alyssa? Then, Cyndi says if she’d known her 12-year-old son, Alex, had autism and Down syndrome, she may not have brought him into the world. She says he hits himself, screams, grunts at the top of his lungs and wears two pairs of diapers at a time because he’s not potty trained. Her husband, Ulis, says he doesn’t find it difficult to care for Alex, but Cyndi says she’s exhausted and overwhelmed. Should the boy be institutionalized? Find out what Dr. Phil thinks. Plus, meet a mom with four kids who’s already left home twice. Now she’s scared she may leave again — this time for good. Talk about the show here.

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September 8, 2008, 9:00 pm PDT

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But, how does one just BECOME that kind of "good parent"...do you REALLY think this is a matter of just being lazy or something?

Good for you for being understanding of teen mothers...however that's not the norm for a great portion of America....until their VP candidate daughter got pregnant...then SUDDENLY there was loads of understanding. Trust me, I see it all around me. LOL...People who USED to say god awful things about teen mothers suddenly have sympathy and understanding. It's ridiculous hypocrisy.

As for your abortion talk, take it to another board where you and others can agree and pat each other on the back. LOL You simply used the abortion thing to avoid the POINT I was making. It's ridiculous.

But, how does one just BECOME that kind of "good parent"...do you REALLY think this is a matter of just being lazy or something?

It isn't hard to be a good parent...matter of being lazy- no .... Self absorbed - yes. 

 

I think most people (at least the ones I know) are have always been compassionate to teen mothers unless they are self absorbed and put their "fun" before of the welfare of the child.  Most people criticize those young mothers who go out partying and leaving their child home with Grandma and Grandpa all the time... those who aren't patient with their babies and those who live on welfare having baby after baby.  Maybe it is different where you live.

 

As for my abortion talk... it goes right along with what you said about if it were Obama's daughter.  It is part of who he is and like it or not, my putting it on this board or any other one is up to me.  Thanks for your concern though.  I addressed your point in my post also so I wasn't avoiding anything.

 
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September 9, 2008, 10:17 am PDT

I agree with you !!!!!

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But, how does one just BECOME that kind of "good parent"...do you REALLY think this is a matter of just being lazy or something?

It isn't hard to be a good parent...matter of being lazy- no .... Self absorbed - yes. 

 

I think most people (at least the ones I know) are have always been compassionate to teen mothers unless they are self absorbed and put their "fun" before of the welfare of the child.  Most people criticize those young mothers who go out partying and leaving their child home with Grandma and Grandpa all the time... those who aren't patient with their babies and those who live on welfare having baby after baby.  Maybe it is different where you live.

 

As for my abortion talk... it goes right along with what you said about if it were Obama's daughter.  It is part of who he is and like it or not, my putting it on this board or any other one is up to me.  Thanks for your concern though.  I addressed your point in my post also so I wasn't avoiding anything.

Grandmashari, good response !!

I agree that "most people" are compassionate towards teen mothers... when they are loving and responsible mothers. The problem and the criticism toward these young mothers come from the fact that very often (as you have very well put it) they are neglecting their children, consider them as "mistakes" and leave the burden of raising them to their parents or even worse, to the grandparents.

Penny, I do not know where you come from but, from where I come from, it is not the "norm" to criticize teen mothers.... unless they are not responsible mothers.
 
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September 9, 2008, 10:42 pm PDT

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But, how does one just BECOME that kind of "good parent"...do you REALLY think this is a matter of just being lazy or something?

It isn't hard to be a good parent...matter of being lazy- no .... Self absorbed - yes. 

 

I think most people (at least the ones I know) are have always been compassionate to teen mothers unless they are self absorbed and put their "fun" before of the welfare of the child.  Most people criticize those young mothers who go out partying and leaving their child home with Grandma and Grandpa all the time... those who aren't patient with their babies and those who live on welfare having baby after baby.  Maybe it is different where you live.

 

As for my abortion talk... it goes right along with what you said about if it were Obama's daughter.  It is part of who he is and like it or not, my putting it on this board or any other one is up to me.  Thanks for your concern though.  I addressed your point in my post also so I wasn't avoiding anything.

Self absorbed? I have to disagree. That might bet he case sometimes...but I don't think that is true here. Parenting is not easy for everyone. Sometimes it takes more than a person has. I don't understand why it's so unfathomable that not everyone is going to find parenting to be a do-able.

If you want to talk about other things then bring them up on the appropriate board. I don't want my posts deleted for being off topic.


 
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September 9, 2008, 10:44 pm PDT

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Grandmashari, good response !!

I agree that "most people" are compassionate towards teen mothers... when they are loving and responsible mothers. The problem and the criticism toward these young mothers come from the fact that very often (as you have very well put it) they are neglecting their children, consider them as "mistakes" and leave the burden of raising them to their parents or even worse, to the grandparents.

Penny, I do not know where you come from but, from where I come from, it is not the "norm" to criticize teen mothers.... unless they are not responsible mothers.
It's not a matter of WHERE I come from. I see it on the news, on the internet, on the radio...people right of the middle attacking teen pregnancy. Treating it like it's the most horrid thing on the planet...putting the blame square on parents of the pregnant teens shoulders....

UNTIL NOW! LOLOLOLOLOL
 
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September 11, 2008, 6:23 am PDT

Help?

Hello.

How much help can the mom get from the commuity? I live in Sweden and we get a lot of help fom almost everybody. The mothers need help to carry on.

/ Caroline

And by the way pardon my french
 
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September 11, 2008, 1:09 pm PDT

I disagree 100%

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Grandmashari, good response !!

I agree that "most people" are compassionate towards teen mothers... when they are loving and responsible mothers. The problem and the criticism toward these young mothers come from the fact that very often (as you have very well put it) they are neglecting their children, consider them as "mistakes" and leave the burden of raising them to their parents or even worse, to the grandparents.

Penny, I do not know where you come from but, from where I come from, it is not the "norm" to criticize teen mothers.... unless they are not responsible mothers.

Why are we trying so hard to prevent teen pregnancy, then turn around and say that most people are sympathetic to teen mothers?  Teens are not ready to be mothers.  If teens get married because of a pregnancy, it is much more likely that the marriage will end in divorce.  If there is no marriage, then who does raise the baby?  The teen?  Only if they live on welfare.  So, it would be daycare, or a grandparent, maybe a combination of supports if the the teen is lucky. 

It is so unfair to an unborn child brought into this world with more challanges than the average, which are enough.

I would favor giving the baby up for adoption, if abortion was against the teen's beliefs, ( not the family beliefs) the one who must carry the child, and bear the responsibility.  HER CHOICE! 

What happens to education?  Unless the family is well off, that child and that teen are really not given a fair playing field.

I don't look down on pregnant teens, I feel very sorry for them. Criticize is a harsh word, but don't we as parents, encourage our teens not to become pregnant?  So in saying that, isn't it being critical of the situation, just not any individual?  Don't get pregnant...use protection...all these things we tell our teens are critical by the fact that we put teen pregnancy into the negative.  Why?  Maybe because teen pregnancy is a negative.

Being a mother is hard.  How does a teen have time to know if she is mother material when those of us who have much greater maturity have trouble in deciding?  Very often, even with having a husband and planned pregnancy, children are very draining, and we stop after one or two because we know it is just not in us to have more.

Child abuse is higher amongst teen mothers.  The maturity is not there.  I hope that the stresses of motherhod are not undermined by Bristol Palin's teen pregnancy.  It is not fashionable just because it was flaunted at the Republican Convention. 

Being a mother is hard, and when the word selfish comes up, who could be more selfish as a mother as Sarah Palin?  Her career took priority over her daughter's privacy.  Mothers make sacrifices?  Some do, some don't.  Some get called lazy when they cave under a joyless life.  Others get applauded when they forge ahead with their career at the expense of their child and grandchild.  That unborn baby will have no doubts he or she was conceived out of wedlock, and neither will anyone who meets him or her. 

We seem to be very selective in which mothers we judge and which mothers we call selfish. 

I was called many things for stating my opinions that were honest.  Even someone as "selfish" as myself, would not do that to either of my daughters.  They would come first, as would my grandchild, and I would keep a low profile out of respect for the privacy of the innocents. 

Maybe I am not such a selfish mother as some people think.

 
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September 12, 2008, 7:23 am PDT

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hi im 18 y o female im living my life so well because dad and mam are so great they leave me do what ever i want that how should be all the familys.
Do your parents REQUIRE you to go to school?  Your messege doesn't 'read well'......." ' LEAVING' YOU DO 'whatever you want'", does NOT a good parent make!!!!!
 
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September 12, 2008, 3:23 pm PDT

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Why are we trying so hard to prevent teen pregnancy, then turn around and say that most people are sympathetic to teen mothers?  Teens are not ready to be mothers.  If teens get married because of a pregnancy, it is much more likely that the marriage will end in divorce.  If there is no marriage, then who does raise the baby?  The teen?  Only if they live on welfare.  So, it would be daycare, or a grandparent, maybe a combination of supports if the the teen is lucky. 

It is so unfair to an unborn child brought into this world with more challanges than the average, which are enough.

I would favor giving the baby up for adoption, if abortion was against the teen's beliefs, ( not the family beliefs) the one who must carry the child, and bear the responsibility.  HER CHOICE! 

What happens to education?  Unless the family is well off, that child and that teen are really not given a fair playing field.

I don't look down on pregnant teens, I feel very sorry for them. Criticize is a harsh word, but don't we as parents, encourage our teens not to become pregnant?  So in saying that, isn't it being critical of the situation, just not any individual?  Don't get pregnant...use protection...all these things we tell our teens are critical by the fact that we put teen pregnancy into the negative.  Why?  Maybe because teen pregnancy is a negative.

Being a mother is hard.  How does a teen have time to know if she is mother material when those of us who have much greater maturity have trouble in deciding?  Very often, even with having a husband and planned pregnancy, children are very draining, and we stop after one or two because we know it is just not in us to have more.

Child abuse is higher amongst teen mothers.  The maturity is not there.  I hope that the stresses of motherhod are not undermined by Bristol Palin's teen pregnancy.  It is not fashionable just because it was flaunted at the Republican Convention. 

Being a mother is hard, and when the word selfish comes up, who could be more selfish as a mother as Sarah Palin?  Her career took priority over her daughter's privacy.  Mothers make sacrifices?  Some do, some don't.  Some get called lazy when they cave under a joyless life.  Others get applauded when they forge ahead with their career at the expense of their child and grandchild.  That unborn baby will have no doubts he or she was conceived out of wedlock, and neither will anyone who meets him or her. 

We seem to be very selective in which mothers we judge and which mothers we call selfish. 

I was called many things for stating my opinions that were honest.  Even someone as "selfish" as myself, would not do that to either of my daughters.  They would come first, as would my grandchild, and I would keep a low profile out of respect for the privacy of the innocents. 

Maybe I am not such a selfish mother as some people think.

"Her career took priority over her daughter's privacy."
 
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September 15, 2008, 5:50 am PDT

What happened here?

Wow, talk about a subject getting off topic! How did this particular topic go from being about mothers with physical or mental handicaps to jumping leaps and bounds into abortion and politics? I actually have something to say that has to do "with" the original topic and has been touched on briefly here recently. It concerns women who know if they are or are not mother material. What I would like to know is, if a woman "knows" she's NOT mother material, then why in the world would she bring an innocent baby into this world in the first place? Life is rough enough as it is without being born to  a woman who finds it too difficult to raise you. And one other thing, I find it incredibly amusing when I read mother's who talk about how having one measly child takes everything out of them! These women sure couldn't have made it a hundred years ago or even 50 years ago. Women actually had large families back in those days and were quite capable of handling, caring for, and loving each and every one of them without it "knocking them on their butt".  And as to the notion of a woman knowing she's not mother material? Fine, don't have children! It's as easy as that! It's not the 20's or even the 50's. Women have been able to choose their own path in life for at least 40 years now. Many women have chosen to fore-go children and actually manage to do it without criticism. For those of you who feel that you were pressured by society to have children, that is simply not true. You pressured yourself! I can easily name 10 women that I know off hand who decided in the 70's to NOT have children for whatever their own reason is and they have never looked back. One final thought, so far I haven't seen any positive spin put out due to Palin's daughter being pregnant, but I have heard plenty of jokes about it!

 

 
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September 18, 2008, 1:08 pm PDT

needing a break

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Thank you thank you thank you.  I am a single mom of two incredible childrena nd I love them more then anything else in the world.  Lately I have been feeling like I need a break and feeling horrible about it.  It doens't mean I don't love my children.  It doesn't mean I don't want my children and it sure doesn't mean I am attempting to squander my duties as a parent.  What it means is that I am a human being that needs some relaxation time, some emotional refill time, some sleep! Parenting is hard work.  Even with married couples they need to ensure that they have alone time and alone "couple" time because hopefully some day the kids will leave the nest and you don't want o be looking at your spouse and saying "who is that?"

 

I wish more people would be supporitive and less demeaning and critical of people who finally admit when they are overwhelmed and need a break.  That is not a failure on the part of the parent.  It's not a lack of owning up to parental repsonsibility - it's a fact of life that no ONE person can do it all.  It takes a village to raise a child.....and back in the day people used to have the villages available to do so.  In Amercian society at least many women are made to believe or feel that if they CAN'T do it all (super PTA mom, work full time, manage a house, and in my case be both mom and dad) that they are inadeqyuate.  BSEven stay at home mom's can't do it all by themselves.  Why can't we as a society learn to work together and be supportive and assistive instead of so critical of what everyone is doing.

 

SO I second the two cents.... and I too need a serious break.....

yes i agree children first, but to maintain some level of brainpower to work with the real world outside your children we all need a break now and then.  Even if it means  getting a sitter for a couple hours just so you can to to the park and sit under a tree.   even the best parents need a break!

Lin

 
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