Topic : 08/19 Tired of Being a Mom

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(Original Air Dare: 03/25/08) Motherhood isn't always about the good times, like baking brownies and having game night with the family. Dr. Phil talks to women who say they can’t cope with their children, and they’re running out of resources. Robyn adopted her 10-year-old daughter, Alyssa, six years ago from the Ukraine and says she actually has thoughts of sending the girl back. Robyn says that Alyssa hasn’t bonded with her and doesn’t know how to love anyone. She says her daughter screams, cries, yells and even threatened to kill herself! Robyn’s husband, Joe, can’t imagine living without his adoptive daughter and intends to stand by his commitment to the child. What's the real reason Robyn never bonded with Alyssa? Then, Cyndi says if she’d known her 12-year-old son, Alex, had autism and Down syndrome, she may not have brought him into the world. She says he hits himself, screams, grunts at the top of his lungs and wears two pairs of diapers at a time because he’s not potty trained. Her husband, Ulis, says he doesn’t find it difficult to care for Alex, but Cyndi says she’s exhausted and overwhelmed. Should the boy be institutionalized? Find out what Dr. Phil thinks. Plus, meet a mom with four kids who’s already left home twice. Now she’s scared she may leave again — this time for good. Talk about the show here.

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March 25, 2008, 7:04 am PDT

Autism....

 

I wanted to post some info on Austism for whomever's interested (I think the mom had a child with autism, and I was curious, so this is what I found):

 

http://www.autismsource.org/  (has a few chapters of support groups for autistic families)

 

http://www.autism-society.org/site/PageServer

 

http://www.autismspeaks.org/community/family_services/index.php

 

http://www.nationalautismassociation.org/

 

http://www.autism.com/autism/first/adviceforparents.htm

 

http://www.talkaboutcuringautism.org/index.htm

 

Hope these are useful!

 
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March 25, 2008, 7:10 am PDT

3/25 Tired of Being a Mom

I was a mother with 4 under 5 years ( all grown now).  I always wondered where the control was in my home.  The kids active and healthy .  House a mess. Couldn't invite people in because "it was my fault" the house was in disorder. 

  I tell you it was a crazy time.  I wanted to run away many times.  After all these years I have come to the conclusion I just didn't have enough support from my husband.  It was all me.  Dishes, cleaning, mowing the lawn, repairing bikes, doorknobs, painting and any other task needed at home and working a 40 hr week.

  GIRLS GET UP AND TELL THAT GUY TO HELP!!!!!!!

The kids are grown now but let me tell you the grandchildren are better than my kids.  HAVE FUN!

 
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March 25, 2008, 7:14 am PDT

I applaud your sister

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 I akesd my sister about that, she's 37, and childless by choice (if you want to piss her off, be one of those people that looks at her like she's some kind of freak, or say to her "well there's still time for you to change your mind ") .
I asked her how she KNEW she didn't want children of her own (shes's the "Cool" aunt, my kids like her more than they like me much of the time), she said she took time to know herself FIRST, and to find out if she had the time and patience, and if she were willing to give up her own career and life, she's in the navy, and she goes away a lot, okay I know many have done it, and she always said " Why would I bring a child into my world to drop it off with you and Mom while I go away for six months, you can't stick a Baby in a kennel ", I think it was just knowing what she wanted out of life, and kids just didn't fit.
You have a different perspective, see I can honestly say with three kids here without disabilities ( two 16, one 18) there are days the first band of gypsies to make me an offer, would get them all.I spent two years as a Teaching Assistant for developementally and physically challenged children, many of them with emotional problems, but I'm not sure I could do it 24/7 without a break.
Not sure I helped any, but that's just one perspective.
I am a mother of three (about to be four) kids, and I applaud your sister for her choice.  She's got a solid head on her shoulders.  NEVER bring a child into this world unless you are willing and able to give up everything for that child, because you never know what will happen.  If your sister never had a child, it would be far better than having a child due to peer pressure and having to "dump" the kid off to family members or even worse to his/her own devices.  Tell your sister to ignore the freak looks and to do what she knows is right, because it sounds like she's thinking more intelligently than anybody else around you.  And having the "cool" aunt is just awesome.  She's in a good place right now.  Tell her to stick with it!
 
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March 25, 2008, 7:23 am PDT

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   You might want to check with your family doctor.  Having 4 kids, starting at the age of 20, it's possible you might be experiencing post partum depression.  If you are crying a lot or non-stop, and thinking of running away often, your brain could be a bit "off" bio-chemically. Please look into that as well.  Dr. Phil is right, you need to take care of you first, so that your kids can have a happy Mom.  4 kids IS chaos, no doubt about it.  But with scheduling your kids time for: chores, fun with you (board games, going to parks with them, picnics, biking), play time with their Dad, etc..... it can be more "organized chaos".  Good luck to you.  Join a mom's group also.  Knowing your not alone in ur overwhelmed feelings is key.  Put a chart up to schedule all your kids daily routines and activities, and I think you'll see things MUCH brighter.  If kids are fighting too much, running around, jumping on furniture...pretty much they are telling PARENTS they are BORED!, and need creative outlets.  Your kids are your blessings from God, so cherish every moment with them (they fly the nest sooner than you can imagine).  Take care,  Andrea :) 

 
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March 25, 2008, 7:23 am PDT

I'm amazed he dropped the ball again!

Phil, after six years and everybody else seeing a great child and the only person who is raising her seeing a horrible monster, do you really think it's the DAUGHTER'S fault?  This woman is a horrible woman who sees an imperfect child and this girl is SUFFERING for it!  You are always on the side of the child; get on Alyssa's side, for heaven's sake!  She shouldn't be forced to suffer abuse because this "woman" can't handle it!  Stop seeing this evil chick as a victim and start seeing her for what she really is; an abusive toad!
 
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March 25, 2008, 7:25 am PDT

People First Language / Dr. Phil

There is such a thing that is called people first language, which Dr. Phil did not use. The thought is that people with disabilities are people first, but when everyone describes them they list the disability first. Once you think about it, it makes so much more sense to say the boy has Downs Syndrome and Autism. Rather than what Dr. Phil Stated a Down Syndrome and Autistic son, which is also commonly used by others.

 

Which brings me to the point that Dr. Phil mentioned but I think more attention needed to be put on such, how will the boy feel to be in a different bed? I heard a lot of talk about what this was doing to the mother the father and the sister what about the little boy that has no voice. He is still a boy who happened to be given these disabilities. Many of us will never understand why a child would smear feacies all over. But in his mind there is a reason, finding the reason is hard, but he isn't doing it to make life difficult for the familiy.

 

I have a daughter who was born with multiple anomalies and cognitive impaired, she is now 11. I also have a son who is 7 and a daughter who is 3. I have always thought about the impact of my 2 younger children by having a sibling with special needs. At the same time I think about the impact on my daughter by having 2 siblings who are typically developing. My heart breaks for them all but as a parent I'm compelled to have their experiences be positive.

 

I understand the difficulties that the parents and the family are experiencing and don't pass judgment but I wanted to remind everyone to think about how the child with a disability feels as well as all children.

 

 

 
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March 25, 2008, 7:31 am PDT

What did you expect???

What the heck do people who adopt foreign troubled children expect? I've  baby sat troubled treatment care American foster children for many, many years and have cared for children FAR WORSE than what this program is showing. Why are these parents expecting love from these children??? It is NOT the childs job to love the parents it is the other way around. Many times troubled children respond much more positively to structure than so called "love". I've shown more dedication and compassion to my sick pet rabbits than some of these people are showing these children. I'm just not understanding this at all. I feel for anyone with a disabled child. They do not get enough support or any relief from anywhere. They truly need help and some relief.
 
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March 25, 2008, 7:33 am PDT

03/25 Tired of Being a Mom

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I have seen Cyndi have wonderful times with Alex and difficult times.  Cyndi has tried every means of help for Alex.   Cyndi has made it a mission in her life to help Alex communicate.  She has fought to get Alex in the best school in her city.  She has fought to get funding to help Alex get the best care.  She has fought to make sure that Alex is protected where ever he goes.  Cyndi has socialized Alex.  Cyndi takes Alex to theaters.  Cyndi buys him things that he enjoys to play with.  Cyndi tries to make Alex's life as normal as possible.  Cyndi not only devotes her time to Alex but she also supports her other child, as well as giving back to the community.  She also gives her shoulder to others that are in need of support.  Please pray that Alex will get the help and some day be able to communicate to Cyndi and Ulis what he is feeling.

 

      Cyndi has "a tough row to hoe."  It is a difficult problem, much harder than most mothers of "normal" children can even comprehend. 

      My first child was a full-term still birth.  That means that the baby died as my labor began.  It plain broke my heart.  Two years later, I had my daughter.  Two years later, I had my son.  Because their older brother had died before he even got a chance to live, I treasured my children.  I understand how Cyndi feels because I had two special needs children.    

       Prayer alone is fine, but what Cyndi needs is a support group.  She needs to know and communicate with other mothers in her situation.  The problem is Cyndi is not an evil or uncaring mother.   If you are "blessed" with a special needs child, merely getting the required help takes months and months.  Help does not come knocking on your door.  It is months and months of paperwork. Agency after agency will examine your child.  That's months and months and months and months . . .

   

 
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March 25, 2008, 7:44 am PDT

I agreee

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 Not all women are cut out to be Mothers, sad but true reality. Unfortunately, many of them don't find that out until after they have children.
Babies are cute, but they require 24/7 care, and then the different ages and stages can be frustrating, parenthood isn't something you "try on " like a new outfit, the new outfit you can donate to charity or return if you figure out you don't like it.
One of the biggest disservices I've seen done to international adoptees, is seeing the shows that show the happy family with few issues, sadly this isn't the case tha majority of the times.  These children usually come from orphanages where there are many children per worker, they have never been taught to bond with one person, or they come from conditions that have made them unable to feel safe and secure, I'm not saying it dosen't work, it can and does but those are the parents that go into this with an open mind and have researched the reality of how these children have been living, and what issues can come up from this.
As for the disabled, "but for the Grace of God go I", I've never dealt with it.  But for her husband to say its easy, he probably goes to work every day, and I wouldn't be surprised if she is with the child 24/7 and needs a break.  Sometimes we need a break from our so-called "Normal children" , they can be a handful and frustrating, so a child that has Down's Syndrome and Autism cannot be easy, and those parents do need help and compassion, this Mom can't leave her son with the neighbor's teen daughter and go shopping for an hour or two, and maybe the grandparents cannot physically help, or they have no other family around that can give her a break.
Mom coming and going, not good.  If she can't handle it and her husband can, then maybe there should be a role reversal, she be the weekend parent and he be the single parent.  Coming and going like that is not good for the children's state of mind or their feeling of security.
I do wish people would get to know themselves first before having children, the reality is rarly the same as the dream.
 

U are right and those of us who aren't cut out to be parents and screw up trying to be  good ones often get ridiculed and brow beaten for our efforts when we have done the best we can.
 
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March 25, 2008, 8:04 am PDT

Another good Autism site.

http://www.wrongplanet.net/
 

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