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Created on : Thursday, March 20, 2008, 12:38:55 pm
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(Original Air Dare: 03/25/08) Motherhood isn't always about the good times, like baking brownies and having game night with the family. Dr. Phil talks to women who say they can’t cope with their children, and they’re running out of resources. Robyn adopted her 10-year-old daughter, Alyssa, six years ago from the Ukraine and says she actually has thoughts of sending the girl back. Robyn says that Alyssa hasn’t bonded with her and doesn’t know how to love anyone. She says her daughter screams, cries, yells and even threatened to kill herself! Robyn’s husband, Joe, can’t imagine living without his adoptive daughter and intends to stand by his commitment to the child. What's the real reason Robyn never bonded with Alyssa? Then, Cyndi says if she’d known her 12-year-old son, Alex, had autism and Down syndrome, she may not have brought him into the world. She says he hits himself, screams, grunts at the top of his lungs and wears two pairs of diapers at a time because he’s not potty trained. Her husband, Ulis, says he doesn’t find it difficult to care for Alex, but Cyndi says she’s exhausted and overwhelmed. Should the boy be institutionalized? Find out what Dr. Phil thinks. Plus, meet a mom with four kids who’s already left home twice. Now she’s scared she may leave again — this time for good. Talk about the show here.

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March 25, 2008, 7:51 pm PDT

03/25 Tired of Being a Mom

Quote From: hikerchick

As the mother of a son with down syndrome, I am disgusted at this womans attitude.  I am hoping that the discription of her situation and attitude is more dramatic than what it really is..  Heh, my response to her is  "Deal with it, he is your son,"  Anyone who states that they wish their child had been aborted ought to be slapped.  Perfect or imperfect. Oh well.  How can you even look at him after making such comments? 

 

Having a child with special needs is very challenging.  There have been many trials over the  years since the birth of my son.  Not once have I wished that he had been aborted. As a matter of fact, when the doctor wanted to talk to me about "options" the idea was so far form my mind that I didn't even kno what it was that he was asking me at the time.

 

I have given up my career and my husband and I gave up our previous lifestyles to care for our child. We used to be very involved in our jobs and worked long hours, we went out all the time and we spent money because we had it.   Of course, a lot of that changed but it wasn't just becuase our son has down syndrome.   We both still work, have hobbies and do things that we like to do.  What's this lady's problem?

 

Do I have bad days?  Yes, but do. I have a lot of them. I get frustrated a lot and to be truthful, a lot of my frustration comes more from other people than with the challenges with him.  The thought that this child might be "institutionalized" frightens me and it makes me want to find these people.  There should never be any thoughts of doing this to your child just because YOU can't handle it. I would NEVER in a million years consider doing that to my son. NEVER.

 

Get help. There are services available and it's YOUR own fault for not obtaining it.   No child ought to be disowned because you didn't do what you were supposed to.  I'm guessing that the attitude that these people had was bad from the start.  Seems very selfish.

 

There are a thousand places to get support from other families who are in the same situation that you are. Of course on the other hand, if you're going to be like this then maybe it's in your childs best interest to go and be with other people who are willing to care for him and work with him.   

 

Some people have the attitude that  just because he had down snydrome he was a lost cause.  Shame on you.  Due to the efforts of my husband, myself and our team of early intervention therapists, teachers etc, he is going to attend school and have a full life.  He enjoys his life.  When I look at him and see him smile and do things that he was never supposed to do, I smile and I know he was worth it.

 

There were times when I had 4 early intervention therapists in my home a week.  We gave up a lot of our time so that he could have the services and it paid off!!   He did a lot of things before "they" said that he would.

 

I don't even know if I am going to watch this episode. I'm angry just reading the preview. I can't imagine what the freak out will be like it I sit down to watch.  *chuckles*

I agree with you completely. We are in a society that suffers from mommy martyr syndrome. We have shows like this where all the mothers do is whine about the position they put themselves into. Unfortunetly, despite how well Dr. Phil did at explaining that the mothers don't have a right to play martryrs, there are parents who will see the title of this show, and feel it's approving of them having a victim mentality about being a parent.

 

You can't even ask a parent to move their children down a few tables, so you don't have to hear them scream or yell, without a diatribe about how hard their life is and you're not a parent so you have no right to adress them. This is a major problem with our society, we're tellng parents, especially mothers, that they are entitled to acting as if the rest of society is beneath them. Even at times their own children.

 

I think parents who joke about abandoning their children, should have their children taken from them. They're admitting their child is at risk, of them at a whim deciding they just don't want to do it anymore. They're kids, not virtual pets.

 

This mother doesn't understand why her son with Down Syndrome/Autism keeps saying "mean!" at her, well it's probably cause she is mean to him. She's not taking the time nor the effort to understand him. She sees the only way to interact with him is through discipline.

 

If this show had anything positive for it, it showed that the husbands were far better parents than their wives. Like that woman who kept saying I want to leave my family, fine, go. Give her children the opportunity to have a mother who cares. Not a mother who in public says she'd die for her kids, then in the next sentence talk about leaving them at school like sacks of flour.

 

Do these mothers think their children are unable to hear that they're not in this with full support. Do they think that they don't know their mommy cares about them with the same extent they would care about a object? Why do you think these kids are having problems, cause instead of being raised by their mothers, their mothers are on the phone playing martyr mommy with their friends.

 

Hikerchick, expect to get alot of angry posts here. As someone who tells parents alot of what they don't want to hear on bulletin boards, I know very well that it's expected that I'll be the target of alot of parent temper tantrums. What I'm saying is, alot of people probably won't agree with you. You are dealing with reality the best way you can. When you tell parents they have to buck up and live in the same world you and I live in, it's easier for them to attack what they don't want to deal with, than to deal with it.

 
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March 25, 2008, 7:54 pm PDT

03/25 Tired of Being a Mom

Quote From: pacmary

 Wow, how judgemental, without even seeing the show yet.  This woman is dealing with a very seriously disabled dual diagnosis child.  My heart goes out to the whole family and I hope that they can get some help.  And yes, I agree with Dr. Phil-- out of home placement, at least temporarily, may be the best for the child as well as the family.

Do not judge until and unless you have walked in her shoes.  There is no comparison between caring for a "typical" child with DS (yes, there is one in my family) with that of a severely impaired, nonverbal, older dual diagnosis child.


She has walked in her shoes. Or did you miss the part where hikerchick says she has a special needs child?
 
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March 25, 2008, 7:55 pm PDT

RAD

Being a mom of a son who has RAD and ODD, it was obvious that Alyssa was a RAD child.

Two books that have helped us are Beyond Consequences and Parenting with Love & Logic.

Let's educate each other, not judge each other. Until you walk this road, you will not understand.

A therapist put it in a nutshell for us "Adoptive kids are traumatized kids." I live it, I know.

 
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March 25, 2008, 7:56 pm PDT

Yup, been there!

Quote From: crazeemom

As a at-home mother of 3 girls, I felt as though I was looking into a mirror today as I watched the "mom who has it all".  Just last night I felt so frustrated, mad, and hateful toward my 3 kids I handed my husband a bottle for my 7 week old, grabbed a set of keys and stormed out even without any shoes.  I just wanted to drive.  I took my frustration out on my husbands new car by taking a few 90 degree corners at around 65 mph.  All I could think of in my head was, "If I happen to roll, maybe I will get a 2-3 week vacation in the hospital away from my children."  I have a 6 year old, 3 year old and 7 week old. 

 

The lady on the show explained it exactly right.  I am tired of the yelling, screaming, fighting, screaming, hitting, screaming, the lack of parental respect in our home, and oh, did I mention the screaming?? I waited 5 years to have children after I was married (although, I was married at 18).  I thought I waited long enough to "appreciate" them.  I cant help but wonder what I would have done or what I could do if I didn't stay home all day with my kids.  I worked to put my husband through law school and a part of me is jealous and resentful that HE was able to complete his education while I put everything on hold. There are days I wish I could work part time just so I can feel like I am worth something.  Unfortunately, I was born with a heart condition and am extremely tired after a regular day of mommying. 

 

As the product of a mom who was unable to have children without going through hell to get them, I am well aware of my selfishness; that makes everything even worse.  With a few tips from the show, and knowing that I shouldnt feel guilty for wanting a break, I feel very hopeful.  Today was a much better day already.  This episode made it even better. 

 

Dr. Phil must have had inspiration of when to air that particular episode. Last night, I wasn't sure if I was going to come back home

Hang in there, Mom. You can't run away because they will just find you and probably phone you asking where their socks are, and did you know what the other one did? etc.....I know how you feel. There were the days when I could have screamed like a Banshee running down the street naked!  But, it will all be over before you blink, so bite your cheek, hunker down and love them to death. Its good to take a break when you can. Make hubby take over for a while. Give yourself a break and don't listen to ANYONE who tells you that you aren't doing it 'right'. The fact that you are  THERE and you love your kids will get you through. Words of wisdom from a gramma of ten, I wish you all the best
 
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March 25, 2008, 7:57 pm PDT

I am Dad

Quote From: magnusson0825

I saw the story about the autistic down syndrome boy. I hav e a child with autism as well. I know VERY WELL how hard it is. These children need MORE love...not less. They are truly special children. She's just worried about HERSELF. What HE'S doing to HER. It should be the way around. So, she didn't CHOOSE to have a ds autistic son. HE DIDN'T CHOOSE HER EITHER. Get with it.

There are rescources available. She needs to get some psychological help and dad needs to take his turn doing it. Her anger and resentment towards her son isn't helping anyone.

After I saw that segment I ran to my autistic son and gave him a big hug (that he, of course, did not love) and a big bowl of ice cream. These kids' lives are hard enough, I feel so bad for that boy.
 i am the person who wakes up every morning , gets alex dressed and gets him on the bus for school, I have been a middle school basketball coach( for my daughters team) for the last 5 years,( this is my time and talent for the church) alex has been present at every practice and present at every game, sitting on the bench with dad and the girls. i have never once bitched or complained about alex , I am very involved my childrens lives, can you say the same,
 
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March 25, 2008, 7:59 pm PDT

03/25 Tired of Being a Mom

Quote From: dianeesp

Most of these mothers are very very selfish.  They are only thinking of themselves.  The kids didn't ask to be born to them.  Yikes.  They need to stop thinking of themselves and what they could be doing without kids or wishing they didn't have kids.  I keep hearing the words, me me me.
Dianeesp, I agree with you completely. It's what I like to call martyr mommy syndrome. Nobody suffers like the mother, who gave life to her children. Nobody understands all the suffering they have to go through on behalf of their children. Our society, including shows like this one, give mothers the idea that it's ok for them to act as if they're the victims of their choice to have children. I'm glad to see there are other people here like us, who are speaking out against that.
 
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March 25, 2008, 8:00 pm PDT

Your Right

Quote From: maryc8

I can understand how it may be frustrating and tiring for some people that have a child with disabilities. In my own experience, I am a single mother of three children. I  myself, have M.S. and my youngest child, Joshua has 2 disabilities. He is 5 years old. He does not walk, talk, eat by mouth, and is blind in 1 eye.He is in diapers also. Even though he may not be able to all of these things yet, he makes little steps every day it seems and is a lot smarter than people know.  I would not change for 1 second, not to be his  mother. He is a blessing in my life. Yes, it may not be easy at times, but there are always ways of coping with things. I really think that we who have children like this, it only makes us  better, stronger people and more able to appreciate life. We learn from them. You are not alone with how you feel. I wish you the best. Take care.

Mary  

 

 

  I watched the show tuesday and i was soo outradeged at those so called parents. I am a mother of 2 a single mother at that , my oldest son has Autisum,cp,epilepsy,developmentmenatl delay, ocd, and  hypertention,loss of hearing and sight, non verbal, not potty trained and alot more things going on, and my other son is sever ADHD. and not ONCE HAVE I EVER SAID I WISH THE DOCTOR'S WOULD HAVE TOLD ME. you know what they did not ask to be this way. Do you ever stop and think how they are feeling and thinking? what are they thinking, do they think like us, do they feel like us? IT IS ABOUT THE CHILD(REN).

Just remember everytime you loss your patients,say something act a certain way or react a way in front of that child they WILL remember that even though they can not communicat that to you. When i heard that little boy say MEAN, to me thats says someone was mean to him and he know what thats means .Maybe the CPS should be looking into that house hold or at the mother , does she know there are many resourse's out thier to help her? she needs help... there is Respite help homecare help all kinds of things that can help her. she also needs to seek professional care herself. to learn how to filter her stress, I can tell by looking at her she has no patients. like she just gave up and that child feels every bit of it. and that is why he is acting out that way, that is the only way he knows he will get the attention he craves. Again any parent out there in situations like this Please get help from the community. Thats is what they are there for, and it is nothing to be ashamed of.

 

yours truley

Melanie

 
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March 25, 2008, 8:00 pm PDT

GO YOU!!!!

Quote From: californiamom4

Wow you managed one whole kid all by yourself did ya? So you never had moments when you were stressed out? Maybe because you were gone all day and left your child in the care of someone else??
I admire the single Mom's ability to raise the child all by herself, but she didn't stay home with him all day, and there was only one.  It doens't matter how much money you have, or how healthy your kids are, raising children is hard.  I think this single Mom needs a spanking for speaking out of turn.  
 
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March 25, 2008, 8:01 pm PDT

03/25 Tired of Being a Mom

Quote From: usernamedenise

I feel the same way except my daughter is now eight years old.  I wish I'd never had her, but it's way too late.  I hate parenting.  I hate my life.  I get professional help and take anti-depressants.  Just hate the whole situation.  Why did I ever get to this place?
How do you think your daughter feels? Or do you even care. She didn't asked to be born to a mother who can turn her love for her child on and off like a light-switch.
 
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March 25, 2008, 8:03 pm PDT

03/25 Tired of Being a Mom

Quote From: pat1345

I am so glad I never had kids.
I'm sure the kids you didn't have are glad you were able to figure that out, before you had them, instead of after.
 
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