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Created on : Friday, March 28, 2008, 02:28:54 pm
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(Original Air Date: 04/02/08) Is your life in the ditch, and you can’t see a way out of the quagmire? Dr. Phil's guests say they've lost money and careers, and now they fear losing their family. Lisa says she feels betrayed because her estranged husband, Anthony, is leading a double life. She says Anthony had a great career as an accountant, but was secretly gambling their money away. Now he’s jobless, homeless and living in their minivan, which is about to be repossessed. Anthony invited the Dr. Phil cameras along to capture his life on the streets, and you won’t believe where he winds up at the end of the day! Anthony says he knows his gambling addiction is out of control and says he wants to be back home with his wife and four kids. Can he cash in his chips for good, or will his addiction cost him his family? Then, Shauna says her life is unbearable. She and her husband, Kevin, have filed for bankruptcy, the IRS is knocking at their door, and they’re taking care of a terminally ill son. Shauna says Kevin’s heavy drinking only adds to the chaos, but Kevin doesn’t think he has a problem. Is Shauna overreacting, or is Kevin an alcoholic in denial? Can this marriage be saved? Tell us what you think.

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April 2, 2008, 3:01 pm CDT

I was merried to a drunk!!!

   DRUNKS ARE NO FUN MY EX WAS A DRUNK AND HE BET ON ME AND IT IS NOT FUN.

AND WOMEN PUT THEM OUT OF YOUR LIFE YOU CAN DO BETTER AND DR PHIL

  YOU SHOULD OF TOLD THEM JUST THAT.

DON'T YOU THINK THE KIDS ARE HAVING FUN AND OUR KIDS AND GRAND KIDS ARE SMALL FOR A

VERY SHORT TIME.

AND LISA YOUR OLDEST IS GOING TO HATE HER FATHER LATER IN LIFE.

  AND ONCE A DRUNK ALWAYS A DAM DRUNK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AND WHY WOULD THESE WOMEN PUT THEM THREW THIS???

 I REALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND IT IS ALL WAYS THE WIFE'S DOING ISN'T IT THESE MEN CANT STAND ON THEIR OWN DAM FEET??? WHATS UP WITH THAT??

AND DR PHIL SHAM ON YOU!!

                                                                                  i HOPE THAT GOD WILL BE THEIR FOR THE WOMEN AND KIDS

 
April 2, 2008, 3:03 pm CDT

You threw him under the bus!

I love Dr. Phil and do respect his viewpoint.  However, I think he threw this gambler that was on the show under the bus by not offering him immediate help.  Does this guy need to "earn" help, maybe.  But no more so then the alcoholic that appeared on todays show.  I am an addidtions therapist so I'm not ignorant of the disease.

 

Dr. Phil, I understand your point.  But will be you please reconsider getting this guy some much needed help?  Now?  If not for him, for his family?

 
April 2, 2008, 3:39 pm CDT

Mean Drunks

My husband works everyday, two jobs, no children in the home, pays the bills, and doesn,t cheat. So you ask "What's the problem?' the problem is that he is a drinking "lighetweight". after beer 3 he enters into a "zone" that he can go from "happy buzz" to "mean drunk". He is on the fight. He lashes out verbally until there is a definate confrontation. He refuses to "stop" the beratting. He brings up events that are not accurately discribed. He hates me for everything and yet 'swears' he loves me while he is crushing me.

In the grand scheme of things.................your are right. What do I have to complain about. Just terror in my heart everytime I hear him 'slur'.

 
April 2, 2008, 3:42 pm CDT

Been there

      I have been where she has been . I put up with his gambling for three years. I never knew if we were gonna have a place to live or electricity or a phone. So I finally filed for divorce. I could not love him anymore. He has not seen his kids in 10yrs. My oldest son graduated and he did not show up.I don't know what else to say but I am still angry at him for not staying in touch. He never has payed child support.He always said he would get help.I wish at that time I had Dr.Phil.
 
April 2, 2008, 3:43 pm CDT

Disappointed with Dr. Phil

Quote From: seastriper

Amazing!!! The stigma attached to a gambler is so much worse than a alcoholic or drug attic. Dr Phil tore into the guy because of his gambling problem and no help unless he acts rsponsible for 30 days. Tell a alcoholic to live next door to a package store for 30 days without drinking. He needs help now! A gambler is 25% more likely to commit suicide than a a drug addict or drinker. Thats pretty low. As a gambler who has constantly battled gambling addiction for over 22 years (39 now), and grew up with a family of gambling, I know what it feels like to want to eat a bullet because of stupid mistakes. Dr Phil makes resources available to a DAD to DAD but a gambling addict (a dad too) has to prove he has the will to survive. A gambler has no wilI, all he has is dreams. I agree with Dr Phil most of the time, but I think he left this guy hang out to dry.

 

I agree with the quote above.  I was disheartened to see the difference in how Dr. Phil treated the African man with an addiction compared to the caucasian man with an addiction. I too think he "left this guy hanging out to dry. "

 
April 2, 2008, 3:46 pm CDT

trying to escape reality

My heart goes out to the couple with the terminally ill child. My daughter lost a baby at birth with holoprosencephaly and then another one at 9 months old with multiple congential birth defects. She and her husband also went through the fights when there was no one else to vent that anger on. They stayed at her side until she passed away and are still together. This couple will need each other so much later, I hope they can stay together. 
 
April 2, 2008, 4:03 pm CDT

It's PAYDAY and many will broke by morning

Yes it's no secret I live across the street from a casino. Many who support casino's are those whose income is government provided. We are dependent on  these casino's as our entertainment and a boost to a small income. I at one time was addicted to gambling or to put it correctly  I HAVE IT UNDER CONTROL!  At one point I had my bank account overdrawn and for a few months had advanced my total account  to the point where it no longer was available.  I tried to make it right only the bank was not interested in helping me. I had to close my account and default on almost 1000 dollars.  Now I live in my means and am positive it will never happen again.  What I have trouble with is banks who give advances and when out of control will not work with the customer to have a positive outcome. O well I will never be stupid again.

O by the way are you ever goin to help find my daughter I've not seen for over 20 years!   Thank You?

 
April 2, 2008, 4:18 pm CDT

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Quote From: copperbelt

 

I agree with the quote above.  I was disheartened to see the difference in how Dr. Phil treated the African man with an addiction compared to the caucasian man with an addiction. I too think he "left this guy hanging out to dry. "

I also thought it was odd that Dr. Phil came down so hard on Anthony and not as hard on Kevin (I think that was his name). Could it be because Kevin and Shauna have a terminally ill child? Both gambling and alcohol are addictions, but isn't alcohol a physical addiction were gambling does not carry the threat of physical injury if not done right?

 

BTW can anyone tell me what Shauna's son has?

My brother, Bobby, was born in the early 70's with microcephally (small head), where his skull was basically fused and would not expand to allow his brain to grow, Bobby's brain never advanced past that of an 18 month old. It caused such tension in the house, that I left home a couple of years after Bobby was born. I had just turned 16. Mom and I were distant for several years after that.

Bobby died a few years ago of a massive heart attack. He was living in a group home at the time. He was just 32 years of age. I miss him, and I am sorry I made my Mom's life hell.

 
April 2, 2008, 4:57 pm CDT

Sorry, I am with Dr. Phil on this one

Does race have to effect everything, It seems the very people that are so focused on it are the very ones that want it to not play a part.  I think Dr. Phil was right on with Kevin and Shauna.  I have lost a child and it would have been very easy to tear each other apart but it is time to work together.  If Shauna can provide love, support and faith in Kevin I believe he can gain the strength to be the man he should be. 

 
April 2, 2008, 5:03 pm CDT

Anthony

I have been a recovering gambler for about 3 years now.   My life, during my gambling, was out of control.  I embezzled over 375,000.00 from my employer.  I was "discovered," arrested, and charged with felony theft over $1,500.00.   Prior to all this, my life was pretty normal.  We lived in a wonderful home, have 2 children (both attending Catholic H.S. and grade school), had 2 new cars, etc.  We were living the life of riley!  I then started experiencing things at work that I did not know how to handle.  I turned to gambling, and in order to support my habit, I started stealing from my employer. 

 

Thanks to my wonderful attorney, we plea dealed with the prosecutor and I ended up (through the grace of my wonderful family and friends) raising 180,000 dollars to give to the judge, who in turn put me in 5 years of probation and also restitution of 500 dollars a month for 5 years. 

 

Because I no longer had a job, we had to foreclose on our home and also we lost all of our vehicles.  We ended up claiming bankruptcy.  It has been about 2 years since all of my court appearances, and my life is now back on track.  I have not even had an urge to go to the casinos.  Time in jail cured me of that!    I do not think I would be where I am today without Gamblers Anonymous.  I have met terrific people and they have helped me every step of the way. 

 

Anthony, please go to GA before you head down a path that is far worse than the one you have now chosen.  Good things come of these meetings.  Stick with them and you will see results, but make sure your heart and mind are ready to quit.  I now am speaking for GA and also doing a few interventions for others.  Anthony, with Gods help and your own, there is a light at the end of the tunnel!

 

 
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