Topic : 08/14 Hitting Rock Bottom

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(Original Air Date: 04/02/08) Is your life in the ditch, and you can’t see a way out of the quagmire? Dr. Phil's guests say they've lost money and careers, and now they fear losing their family. Lisa says she feels betrayed because her estranged husband, Anthony, is leading a double life. She says Anthony had a great career as an accountant, but was secretly gambling their money away. Now he’s jobless, homeless and living in their minivan, which is about to be repossessed. Anthony invited the Dr. Phil cameras along to capture his life on the streets, and you won’t believe where he winds up at the end of the day! Anthony says he knows his gambling addiction is out of control and says he wants to be back home with his wife and four kids. Can he cash in his chips for good, or will his addiction cost him his family? Then, Shauna says her life is unbearable. She and her husband, Kevin, have filed for bankruptcy, the IRS is knocking at their door, and they’re taking care of a terminally ill son. Shauna says Kevin’s heavy drinking only adds to the chaos, but Kevin doesn’t think he has a problem. Is Shauna overreacting, or is Kevin an alcoholic in denial? Can this marriage be saved? Tell us what you think.

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April 2, 2008, 9:30 am PDT

04/02 Hitting Rock Bottom

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Everybody always misquotes The Bible on this one, it actually says, "The love of money is the root of all evil."  the way things are set up in this world we need money to live.  Why do you think all preachers include offerings in their services?  And about ,"It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle then for a rich man to enter the kingdom of Heaven."  Here is the entire passage of scripture                                 Mark 10:25-27
25 It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."

26 The disciples were even more amazed, and said to each other, "Who then can be saved?"

27 Jesus looked at them and said, "With man this is impossible, but not with God; all things are possible with God."
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Money in the hands of the right poeple can do alot of good and if more Christians would pray for more money and the wisdom to use it right it could be good.

I agree with your last sentence.

 

Look at all the good that has been done by very wealthy people ( Bill Gates and Oprah Winfrey for example) who have been willing to share their wealth and use their blessings to bless others.

 

And then you have those who are so greedy that they wouldn't give a penny away if their lives depended upon it.....we all will have to answer some day for our choices.

 

It's not how much money you have, but what you do with it that counts.

 
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April 2, 2008, 9:45 am PDT

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I TOO AM AT ROCK BOTTOM. They say that once you're there there's nowhere else to go but up.I have begged and begged some more for help but there is no hope for me. My mother passed away this past New Years Eve after having a stroke two days before Christmas. I'm disabled and have NOWHERE to go! I have to leave my home because her attorney said that in her will she made it clear she didn't want me living here! No one here can help me so I've been reaching out to Dr. Phil, Oprah,Montel and anyone else that you can send e-mails to! I have NO ONE! I guess this should teach me a lesson! Don't give up everything you have for your "family" because in the end it's just you that's left!

One sentence in your post makes me know that there's way more to your story than you are telling...you said: "I have to leave my home because her (your mother's) attorney said that in her will she made it clear she didn't want me living here."

 

When someone's own mother goes to that length to remove you from her home, there has to be a good reason. Maybe all that time you devote to writing emails to Oprah, Dr. Phil and Montel could be better used figuring out how to solve your problems yourself.

 

I believe in personal responsibility, and self-pity is a waste of valuable time better spent on finding solutions to problems.

 
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April 2, 2008, 9:52 am PDT

30 Days

It is sad that the gentleman with the gambling problem has to give Dr Phil 30 days to prove he wants to get better!  This is not what you tell an addict...You give me 30 days and I will help you.  Thats a recipe for death. Many addicts dont even admit they have a problem until two or three weeks into treatment.  Just because he isnt shooting up our drinking into oblivion doesnt mean he isnt on the brink of death. Sham eon Dr Phil for discriminating addictions.  This man needs help NOW, as does his family, not 30 days after Dr Phil says he has been good enough or qualifies for help.  I am an alcoholic and if some one said that to me  I can gaurentee you I would be dead now. Thank God no one said that to me because it would have been impossible.
 
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April 2, 2008, 10:01 am PDT

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Ok, actually, I think you misunderstood what I was saying. After I've fought and fought and fought for however long and I'm tired of fighting, I take a night and I go out and get blitzed. Yes, the problems are still there the next day but that's how I escape them for one night. I do not delay dealing with them, I just need a break from fighting my way through life every now and then. Also, I didn't mean it's the only way, I meant for some of us it's the only way WE'VE FOUND. I've tried other things, I've yet to find a better way. Also, I was absolutely not using the excuse that I'm bipolar and can't get medicine. The fact is I AM BIPOLAR. I CANNOT GET MEDICINE. I live in podunk Oklahoma. I have no health insurance. I am epileptic so I can't drive to mental health which is REALLY FAR AWAY. There is no public transportation. There are not resources here for me to get it. But it was not an excuse. I was simply stating that EVERY NOW AND THEN I do use it to help. It cracks me up how you people are so quick to judge. Do you not think I have exhausted EVERY option that I can imagine? I realize you don't know me but if you did you would know I am not one to make excuses. I have been fighting for 31 years to try to change my situation. Most of my problems are due to outside forces, they were not any choice of my own. It's great that you have this ability to get your life out of the ditch. It's awesome that your mind works that way and you probably have family and friends and your life is in order. Not all of us work that way. I would give ANYTHING to find my way out of this but I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE TO BEGIN. Obviously you've never been in my shoes. Obviously you have no idea what it's like for your entire life to be screwed no matter what you do to try to fix it. This started long before I was ever even able to make a decision on my own. Why don't you people that know it all teach some of us who are a little confused.

Okay, I'm sorry if I sounded harsh. I just have little patience with people who use lame excuses to justify their destructive behavior......not saying that's you...but, your post hit me that way at first.

 

You say that obviously I've never been in your shoes? Guess again!! You have no idea what all I've been through, even before I, too, had any say in things. However, here's what I know: you can whine about your childhood and blame everything that goes wrong in your adulthood on it, OR, you can grow the heck up, put on your big girl panties and DO something to make your life better....one step at a time.

 

My life is in order because I made it that way!  No one jumped in and fixed things for me.

 

Now, in fairness to you, can you tell me what it is you can't get out of? You say you don't know where to begin. Maybe I can give you a direction in which to go...I don't know. Try me.

 
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April 2, 2008, 10:02 am PDT

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Ok, actually, I think you misunderstood what I was saying. After I've fought and fought and fought for however long and I'm tired of fighting, I take a night and I go out and get blitzed. Yes, the problems are still there the next day but that's how I escape them for one night. I do not delay dealing with them, I just need a break from fighting my way through life every now and then. Also, I didn't mean it's the only way, I meant for some of us it's the only way WE'VE FOUND. I've tried other things, I've yet to find a better way. Also, I was absolutely not using the excuse that I'm bipolar and can't get medicine. The fact is I AM BIPOLAR. I CANNOT GET MEDICINE. I live in podunk Oklahoma. I have no health insurance. I am epileptic so I can't drive to mental health which is REALLY FAR AWAY. There is no public transportation. There are not resources here for me to get it. But it was not an excuse. I was simply stating that EVERY NOW AND THEN I do use it to help. It cracks me up how you people are so quick to judge. Do you not think I have exhausted EVERY option that I can imagine? I realize you don't know me but if you did you would know I am not one to make excuses. I have been fighting for 31 years to try to change my situation. Most of my problems are due to outside forces, they were not any choice of my own. It's great that you have this ability to get your life out of the ditch. It's awesome that your mind works that way and you probably have family and friends and your life is in order. Not all of us work that way. I would give ANYTHING to find my way out of this but I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE TO BEGIN. Obviously you've never been in my shoes. Obviously you have no idea what it's like for your entire life to be screwed no matter what you do to try to fix it. This started long before I was ever even able to make a decision on my own. Why don't you people that know it all teach some of us who are a little confused.
I too am bipolar and understand drinking to madicate. I just wanted to let you know that you CAN get your medications and for free. You just go to the web and google the website of the company that makes the medication you need and on EVERY pharmasutical website are forms to fill out and give to your Dr to fax in. I AM NOT JUDGING. I did the same thing and I became a bipolar alcohlic. NOTHING got better until I quit drinking period no exuses. Your facts are correct but there is something you can do if you WANT to get better. Good Luck and God Bless.
 
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April 2, 2008, 10:27 am PDT

I appreciate your attempt to help

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I too am bipolar and understand drinking to madicate. I just wanted to let you know that you CAN get your medications and for free. You just go to the web and google the website of the company that makes the medication you need and on EVERY pharmasutical website are forms to fill out and give to your Dr to fax in. I AM NOT JUDGING. I did the same thing and I became a bipolar alcohlic. NOTHING got better until I quit drinking period no exuses. Your facts are correct but there is something you can do if you WANT to get better. Good Luck and God Bless.
I really do appreciate your attempt to help but the problem is I HAVE NO DOCTOR. I have no insurance. I have no way to get to any doctors that will see me for free. The pharmaceutical companies can't help me without a prescription and I can't get a prescription without a doctor. There is no public transportation where I live and as I stated I am also epileptic. I have never had a license because of this and I don't even know how to drive if I wanted to break the law and do it without a license. I do not drink regularly or anything like that but points like right now when I've been up for 4 days with my head spinning out of control because I'm trying to figure out ways to fix my problem, a nice big bottle of Jack would help tremendously so I could get some rest. Really, trust me, I've been racking my brain for the longest time now, if there's something else I can do, I haven't found it yet. That is why I posted that, to try to get people to understand, sometimes things just aren't as simple as some "more priviledged folk" tend to think they are.
 
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April 2, 2008, 11:05 am PDT

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I really do appreciate your attempt to help but the problem is I HAVE NO DOCTOR. I have no insurance. I have no way to get to any doctors that will see me for free. The pharmaceutical companies can't help me without a prescription and I can't get a prescription without a doctor. There is no public transportation where I live and as I stated I am also epileptic. I have never had a license because of this and I don't even know how to drive if I wanted to break the law and do it without a license. I do not drink regularly or anything like that but points like right now when I've been up for 4 days with my head spinning out of control because I'm trying to figure out ways to fix my problem, a nice big bottle of Jack would help tremendously so I could get some rest. Really, trust me, I've been racking my brain for the longest time now, if there's something else I can do, I haven't found it yet. That is why I posted that, to try to get people to understand, sometimes things just aren't as simple as some "more priviledged folk" tend to think they are.

Do you live alone? If you don't, someone in your home must have a car...can't they take you to the doctor? How are you providing for yourself? Are you getting any state help? If you are epileptic you must be taking some medication for that....how did you get that medication? A doctor must have prescribed it for you.

 

By the way, among the state services that can be provided for people who need it, is a transportation service that will take you to a doctor....and you don't need insurance.

 

If you have a telephone and a telephone book in your home you have access to any service you need.

 

I hear a lot of "yes, but...." coming out, but not much willingness to take the steps required to change things....only a desire for " a nice big bottle of Jack".  How's that workin' for ya'?

 

No one is saying it's easy.. or simple....so what? From your posts I see that you seem to be educated...you can spell;  you seem articulate...I don't see your situation as hopeless. And that crack about "more privileged folk".....please. you don't have to be privileged to use your head.

 

 

 
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April 2, 2008, 11:08 am PDT

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Ok, actually, I think you misunderstood what I was saying. After I've fought and fought and fought for however long and I'm tired of fighting, I take a night and I go out and get blitzed. Yes, the problems are still there the next day but that's how I escape them for one night. I do not delay dealing with them, I just need a break from fighting my way through life every now and then. Also, I didn't mean it's the only way, I meant for some of us it's the only way WE'VE FOUND. I've tried other things, I've yet to find a better way. Also, I was absolutely not using the excuse that I'm bipolar and can't get medicine. The fact is I AM BIPOLAR. I CANNOT GET MEDICINE. I live in podunk Oklahoma. I have no health insurance. I am epileptic so I can't drive to mental health which is REALLY FAR AWAY. There is no public transportation. There are not resources here for me to get it. But it was not an excuse. I was simply stating that EVERY NOW AND THEN I do use it to help. It cracks me up how you people are so quick to judge. Do you not think I have exhausted EVERY option that I can imagine? I realize you don't know me but if you did you would know I am not one to make excuses. I have been fighting for 31 years to try to change my situation. Most of my problems are due to outside forces, they were not any choice of my own. It's great that you have this ability to get your life out of the ditch. It's awesome that your mind works that way and you probably have family and friends and your life is in order. Not all of us work that way. I would give ANYTHING to find my way out of this but I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE TO BEGIN. Obviously you've never been in my shoes. Obviously you have no idea what it's like for your entire life to be screwed no matter what you do to try to fix it. This started long before I was ever even able to make a decision on my own. Why don't you people that know it all teach some of us who are a little confused.

By the way, one more thing: you said you "take a night and GO OUT and get blitzed". If you can find your way out of the house to do that, then you can find a way to a doctor.

 

See what I mean about using excuses??

 
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April 2, 2008, 12:12 pm PDT

04/02 Hitting Rock Bottom

How come when originally asked if he had a problem he told Dr. Phil he did- then Dr. Phil said "well on Feb.14 you said you didn't.  Then Dr. Phil blasted him when he said that maybe he didn't?  When Dr.Phil hears the answer he doesn't want until the end of the show he turns the tables and then blasts the guests for it!
 
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April 2, 2008, 12:46 pm PDT

Message to Shauna and Husband

I am a mother of a daughter with anencephaly that only lived for 2 hours.  It breaks my heart that you have to go through knowing that your child is terminal, but it breaks my heart more that you aren't finding the joy in each and every moment you have him in your arms.  You and your husband need to stop grieving for what will happen, because there's always time for that, and focus on the moment and the blessing you have to have your child alive right now.  The moment is all you ever have.  Do you want to look back at your time with your child and regret that you were too focused on your pain, frustration, and grief that you totally missed out on the time that you had with him? 

 

Your precious beautiful son is a gift in this world.  Even if he isn't like other children, his spirit is still inside of him, and he chose you as his parents for a reason.  He deserves your love.  He deserves to see the light in your eyes.  He deserves for you to keep believing and hoping for him, because he obviously hasn't given up yet.  Why have you?

 

Live in the moment and love each other, and appreciate the time you have with your son.

 

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