Topic : 08/14 Hitting Rock Bottom

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(Original Air Date: 04/02/08) Is your life in the ditch, and you can’t see a way out of the quagmire? Dr. Phil's guests say they've lost money and careers, and now they fear losing their family. Lisa says she feels betrayed because her estranged husband, Anthony, is leading a double life. She says Anthony had a great career as an accountant, but was secretly gambling their money away. Now he’s jobless, homeless and living in their minivan, which is about to be repossessed. Anthony invited the Dr. Phil cameras along to capture his life on the streets, and you won’t believe where he winds up at the end of the day! Anthony says he knows his gambling addiction is out of control and says he wants to be back home with his wife and four kids. Can he cash in his chips for good, or will his addiction cost him his family? Then, Shauna says her life is unbearable. She and her husband, Kevin, have filed for bankruptcy, the IRS is knocking at their door, and they’re taking care of a terminally ill son. Shauna says Kevin’s heavy drinking only adds to the chaos, but Kevin doesn’t think he has a problem. Is Shauna overreacting, or is Kevin an alcoholic in denial? Can this marriage be saved? Tell us what you think.

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April 2, 2008, 8:48 pm PDT

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There's nothing wrong with asking for help, but you can't expect it. When it isn't available you can't just fall down and do nothing....and I'm not saying that you are doing that, because I don't know.

 

I realize that sometimes older people, who have no real knowledge of how things are today, don't understand the details of wills, etc. They are way too trusting because in their day you COULD trust more people. And, I'm wondering: if your mother added your other brother and yourself to her insurance policies, what happened? Was they not honored?

 

You don't say what your illness is; only that you are disabled...and you don't need to tell me what it is.

All I'm saying is that we are all responsible for ourselves; we can't depend on others. If someone comes along and gives us a hand up, great. But we don't have the right to expect a hand out!  Big difference between the two.  We have to do the best we can.

 

As far as judging others: every single human being on this planet judges others! It's human nature...and anyone who says they don't is lying! Society requires us to judge...otherwise we'd all live in total chaos....so, no, it's not "time wasted."

          I'm sorry I didn't mean to sound so harsh. I have Borderline Personality Disorder along with severe depression. I've been diagnosed with those since1989. Years later I've come down with a few other things such as Diabetes, high blood pressure, Asthma and a few other not so serious health problems. I've had to stop taking my medicines because I've lost my Medicaid due to the insurance money I got from mom. It can't be counted as income so it is useless to me when it comes to renting a place to live. I could give an apartment at least six months rent in advance but still they say no.They all tell me the same thing your income MUST be three times the rent. That means I have to find a place to live for $218.00 per month. I don't know of anywhere in the country with rent that low.

           The sad thing is I AM NOT ALONE.My purpose in writing all of these people is to get the word out. I make the maximum you can get off both SSD and SSI together. The number of homeless people that are mentally and physically disabled should be considered unacceptable! I know I will end up living out of my car. When that happens I will lose the little income I have. In order to receive disability you MUST have an address not a PO box. I have contacted every organization there is to contact. I keep falling into the cracks. I've even contacted HUD and the said they can't help me! So you see when I'm asking for help it isn't just for me. It's for the thousands of homeless disabled Americans in our country. This is a problem that shouldn't be swept under th carpet.

            Unlike the people who were on this show I did not chose to put a bottle in my mouth. I did not chose to go play the ponies or play cards for money.I am going to be homeless simply because I cannot work due to a disability. You would think that Dr Phil would be happy to get this story out. If anyone could get the plight of the disabled out of the darkness and into the light it should be him. If anyone could help us put pressure on the government to protect the rights of the disabled it should be a doctor turned talk show host. He has clout. We don't. In my state it is ILLEGAL to create a homeless mentally ill person! That's just another crack I have fallen in. It doesn't count with foreclosures! I can't even give my insurance money away to an attorney to help me fight the will or to assert my rights with any apartment complex. I'm turned away from the senior housing because I'm not 62 yet. Guess what I know for a fact there are people living there that are younger than me. Suggestions as to what else I can do would be helpful.

 
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April 2, 2008, 8:48 pm PDT

I think I am an acloholic

I dont know what else ot say other than I dont see myself stopping,,,,

 
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April 2, 2008, 9:03 pm PDT

Your lucky

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My grandmother told my sister and I she was leaving us an inheritance (about $50,000 each) when she passed away. Gram ma died 10 years ago from lung cancer. Before she went into hospice, she was living with my mom, and Gram ma changed her will to readMOM was to receive any monies left from the sale of gram ma's home and its contents as well as any money left in her bank accounts.

My sister was outraged. She wanted the money Gram ma promised her, and decided to sue my mom. She wanted me to sue Mom as well. When I refused, she broke off all contact with us (step dad, mom, my brother and myself).

I could also use the money. I am disabled as well, and a small allotment into my bank account would serve me well, but you know what....the relationship with my mom is more important then any money that was left to her (Gram ma's wish was to share the money with us kids, and yes, I did get a small amount). It hurt to see Mom and my step-dad take some nice vacations. They have a nice house, nice furnishings, etc., but my relationship with her is more important.

I seriously doubt I will get an inheritance from my step dad and mom;s estate. Mom;s health is not the best and fully expects to pass on before my step dad does. He will in turn, leave his estate to his one remaining son, my brother. So, I am not loosing sleep over it, and have come to terms with the way I live. I have a roof over my head, a warm bed to sleep in, food to eat, and a husband who I love, and he loves me. I am blessed!

 

I feel sorry for my sister, Her will is her own and I hope she is a happy person.

         I envy you.  I'll soon have none of those things. I will however have a car that mom's attorney wanted to take from me. Even though my name was on it. So if she happens to find the money in the estate to pay me my half I must accept it. She even had the nerve to ask me to put my insurance money into the estate so she could pay mom's bills!
 
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April 2, 2008, 10:03 pm PDT

I noticed a difference

I thought that the families were treated differently.  To me it just seemed the gambler would say what he thought people wanted to hear but he didn't seem truly remorseful.  I don't really know how much help you can give someone who doesn't really want it personally.  Anyway the advice he gave the second family really helped me understand a lot of the things I felt when my daughter was sick.  I kept getting told that she wasn't going to make it and I guess I did take it out on my ex.  Esp when he started talking about wanting to control something... I did want to control something because everything else was in a spin,  I imagine my ex felt the same way.  By the time I actually realized all I wanted was for him  to be my friend and be on my side it was too late for our marriage. I'm still glad to get a little more insite, because my future relationships can benefit from that.

 

Good Show

April

 
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April 2, 2008, 10:05 pm PDT

Opinion on addictions

Anthony needs to march himself right to the local lottery office and fill out the paperwork to have himself evicted for a lifetime from all the states casinos. If he did that, then all the states casino surveillance would be on alert to kick him out of should he be found there. Then, he needs to call gamblers anonymous for help and find a major way to make everything up to his family. I've seen several people in this predicament (worked in Casino for 5 years) and it is sad. The casinos don't want those kind of customers because they tend to become beligerant, irrate and even violent after a while with their staff. Yes, they want you to spend your money but not to the extent that he has gone because patrons like him become to difficult to deal with. He needs to walk away and get help.

 

Alcohol addiction is ridiculous these days and in my opinion the media doesn't help matters. Broadcasting celebrities drinking and driving stories, making shows about Teens/College students getting drunk as if it were a "cool" thing to do, showing beer commercials during major events, etc. Even the news broadcasting drinking and driving accidents the way they do now a days its almost as if they are saying, "Getting drunk and in trouble is cool because you'll end up on TV". Everyone is looking for their 15 minutes of fame and most will do anything, including get trashed and get behind a car, just to get it. I've been fortunate that I've not had to deal with an alcoholic family member but I feel Kevin needs to get the help and support he needs so he can support Shauna and their son. I feel so sad for Shauna and their son. I can only imagine the things that are going through their sons head and what Shauna has had to deal with.

 
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April 3, 2008, 4:06 am PDT

To Shauna and Kevin

 I just want you to know that I am praying for you and your son. There is always a chance for hope when it comes to the Lord. I prayed for God to help your little boy and I felt an answer to that prayer in my heart that said that you need to ask the same thing and truly believe that it can happen. Please, Please do this, for the sake of your son. I have had God answer my prayers in very blerak situations in my life. I had lost all hope and wanted to just die and he was there for me. All I needed to do was ask and there He was. It is truly the most amazing thing that has ever happened to me. Please trust in Him. God has the ability to perform all types of miracles. You just need to believe and trust in Him. I'm not a really religious person. I don't go to church regularly. (I should) But whenever I really need God and have nowhere else to turn, He is always there for me, I don't understand it because I truly don't deserve it, but He is. I will continue to pray for your precious child and hope that you do as well. No matter what, don't give up hope, because you just never know.
 
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April 3, 2008, 5:24 am PDT

finding the way up

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I TOO AM AT ROCK BOTTOM. They say that once you're there there's nowhere else to go but up.I have begged and begged some more for help but there is no hope for me. My mother passed away this past New Years Eve after having a stroke two days before Christmas. I'm disabled and have NOWHERE to go! I have to leave my home because her attorney said that in her will she made it clear she didn't want me living here! No one here can help me so I've been reaching out to Dr. Phil, Oprah,Montel and anyone else that you can send e-mails to! I have NO ONE! I guess this should teach me a lesson! Don't give up everything you have for your "family" because in the end it's just you that's left!
 first, let me offer my deepest condolences on the loss of your mother -- and on being about to lose your home at the same time! i am very concerned about your comment that "there is no hope for me" b/c i believe there is always hope for everyone. obviously,on some level, you think so, too, oryou wouldn't be reaching out to dr. phil, oprah and montel, etc.

i can't believe some of the cold,heartless responses you got! please don't give up because of them.please don't give up for any reason.  you are going through a very difficult period right now, but i'm sure you will find a way "up," so please hang in there. some people may think that you sound self-pitying ow whiny, but they need to understand that you are speaking out of grief and despair. in all this supposed "whining" (for want of a better word), i believe there is a true cry for help.  i'm sure that  either phil, oprah, or montel will come through for you. i sincerely hope so.
 
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April 3, 2008, 6:18 am PDT

reaction to the reaction

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I also thought it was odd that Dr. Phil came down so hard on Anthony and not as hard on Kevin (I think that was his name). Could it be because Kevin and Shauna have a terminally ill child? Both gambling and alcohol are addictions, but isn't alcohol a physical addiction were gambling does not carry the threat of physical injury if not done right?

 

BTW can anyone tell me what Shauna's son has?

My brother, Bobby, was born in the early 70's with microcephally (small head), where his skull was basically fused and would not expand to allow his brain to grow, Bobby's brain never advanced past that of an 18 month old. It caused such tension in the house, that I left home a couple of years after Bobby was born. I had just turned 16. Mom and I were distant for several years after that.

Bobby died a few years ago of a massive heart attack. He was living in a group home at the time. He was just 32 years of age. I miss him, and I am sorry I made my Mom's life hell.

 i,  too, agree that dr.phil treated the 2 men differently, but i don't think it was because of race. i can't imagine phil being that shallow!i it might be because of the child, but i've seen phil go to great pains to help alcoholics, drug addicts, etc. before. i think it's because of what he said about choices. but i don't think going to a casino is any more of a true choice, when you have an addiction, than going out to buyliquor when you're an alcoholic.

also, how about helpfor thegamblers' family. philoffrerred resources to kevin's family, noy just kevin. how about anthony's family? granted, dr. phil was very sympathetic with the, but are there no resources to help them deal withtheir pain? must they, too, wait to see if anthony will try on his own " for 30 days?" is that fair to them? dr.phil does so much good for so many, but i believe he needs to rethink his decisons here.
 
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April 3, 2008, 6:26 am PDT

about wills, survival, etc.

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         She blamed me because my brother stopped coming to visit her. He was her favorite. He didn't come to see her because he hated me. I am disabled and they couldn't accept it because they couldn't understand it. People with my illness tend to think life should be "fair". My brother was trying to get three times his due share from being her trustee. He talked her into getting two insurance policies with him being the only beneficiary. I talked her into doing the right thing and adding my other brother and myself to the beneficiaries. He threw a fit and stopped visiting her. She never forgave me.

          Her will was written out in 2004. You had to know my mother to understand. Her 'will" wasn't HER will it was the attorney's! I went back to read my post and apparently my typing was off. What I should have said was her attorney told me she made it clear to her she didn't want me living here. Nothing in her will stated she didn't want me living here.My mother didn't understand about wills. She didn't read it.I know this because I lived with her, I saw how she signed documents. She trusted everyone they would point to where she needed to sign and she would do it without reading a single word. Which is why I moved back! Two days before her stroke I had her in her doctors office and she told HIM to make sure she was dead before he "pulled the plug" on her in reference to her living will. He couldn't get her to understand that HE wouldn't be the one making that decision. My brother and I had to fight to get her any treatment at all! She thought that by just telling everyone what she wanted was enough. She didn't think she had to make a new will.

       I don't know why it is that people think that just because you're asking for help you're stuck in self pity. Asking for help my dear, is the first step in ANY type of recovery! whether it be alcoholism, drug addiction or financial problems. I'm trying to find a home. How would you like to be disabled( unable to work) and live on a petty $600.00 per month? I'm trying to SURVIVE by asking for help! Not pitying myself! My disability affects my thinking when I'm under a lot of stress. Stress can kill people like myself. We tend to freeze in time and there's nothing we can do about it!

         Judging others is also time wasted.

 i get what you're saying about your mom's will, etc. unfortunately, all too often,people make out a will when they are too old or sick to understand what they're doing. they may even be legally "competent" but they don't pick up on little but significant details, and so on. i've seen this happen in my own family, so i understand.

about your illness -- i don't know what it is, but perhaps there is a support organization that can help you? again (i answered your earlier psot, too), i wish you the best.
 
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April 3, 2008, 7:59 am PDT

No Double Standard

I don't think Dr. Phil was out of line with the 2 addicts on his show.  He expressed sympathy for the man who was drinking because it started after a real tragedy struck his life.  He acknowledged his grief and admonished his coping mechanism.  I think that was the perfect response. 

What I was upset about was Dr. Phil allowing the gambler's children to sit in the audience and on the stage while discussing a "lap dance" that dad received.  That was way out of character for Dr. Phil.  I was disappointed in that.  I was a teenager who had to hear the sordid details of my parents marriage.  Believe me it is life altering.
 

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