Topic : 08/01 Perfectionist Moms

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(Original Air Date: 04/03/08) Every parent believes his or her child is special – the best athlete, the best behaved or the most beautiful -- but for some moms, the pursuit of having the perfect child can turn into an obsession. Sonya says her 18-year-old daughter, Annie, was born perfect. The mom even went so far as to have her tubes tied right after giving birth so she could devote all her time to molding the perfect child! She started entering Annie in beauty pageants when she was 6 months old, and when the girl was 4, she made her watch reality medical shows so she would grow up to be a doctor. Annie regrets not having a normal childhood, and says she hated being pressured to succeed at such a young age. What’s behind Sonya’s obsession with perfection? Then, Cathy says she wants her 13-year-old daughter, Lexie, and her 18-year-old son, Nick, to be the best. Lexie says her mom hassles her about her weight and made her work out an hour a day at age 6! Nick says his mother drives his coaches crazy at sporting events by screaming and critiquing his game. Cathy says she’ll continue to badger and push her kids because she believes they’ll benefit in the long run. But will her controlling ways push her kids away? Share your views here.

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August 1, 2008, 2:02 pm PDT

Definition

I notice that Sonya didn't mention her daughter being happy as part of her definition of a good mom.
 
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August 1, 2008, 2:06 pm PDT

What if it's too late?

What if I've already screwed up my son's life?

What can he do to overcome my inept parenting?

I understand that I meddled in his decisions, and that as a result he has no self esteem or self worth.

It breaks my heart because that was not my intention.  What is your advice on this?

 
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August 1, 2008, 2:13 pm PDT

Perfect Mom August 1st

I just watched the first few minutes of the Dr. Phil show today and I am appauled.  I cannot believe that any person could be such an incredibly horrible mother.  The lady (and I use the term loosely) on the show that thinks she is the perfect mom -- well her actions and her whole being is just unbelievable.  She is in no way a mother and is not even close to being a fit mother for the beautiful daughter that she has.  Just because the mother cannot stand herself and is so disappointed in herself as a woman and mother does not mean that she has to live her life through her daughter.  I absolutely believe that her daughter should be removed from her care immediately as she is not fit to be a mother.

 

God gave this woman the most incredible gift a woman can have and that is a child.  A healthy, beautiful child and all she can do is treat that child with disgrace.

 
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August 1, 2008, 2:14 pm PDT

Let our Children Make Mistakes

As a mother myself I feel that we need to teach a child in the way they should go and hope for the best.  I feel that if we don't allow our children to make mistakes we are not preparing them for the REAL world.  We do not live in a perfect world and our children need to learn that.  If they make a mistake and learn from it then we have succeeded a a parent.  Let them be happy..The parents today did not mention the childs happiness..let them live their life and be proud of who they are.  God loves us as we are but sees what he wants us to be.. Let us do the same. Love our children for who they are,  If we don't love them, WHO WILL

 
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August 1, 2008, 2:16 pm PDT

not perfect

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There is no such thing as a perfect child or a perfect parent! Teenagers will always, always take thier parents as the worst parents ever, they do not have the experience or exposure to the real world out there so they don't know the parents that they are frustrated with, there is a whole real world full of children who would want thier parents to be half as supportive and encouraging to do better. I'm 25 years old, a sophmore at college, finding difficulty to get a job, know why because I come from a wealthy family who constantly told me i dont need to work, and could care less if did good in school or not, so I didn't do good because i though i was set for life......i was a teenager, without right guidance it is easy to make wrong decisions at that age. Yes there are some gifted children, but that doesn't mean that it is okay for other kids not to do well in school, sonya is right saying she did not want to raise a meteocre child, every child has potential to be the top ten student in school. My message to Annie, your Mom doesn't think you are an idiot, she just wants the best for you and believes that you can be the best, what is so wrong with that, I wish my family cared about my education and skills half as much as your mother does! I would be doing great things instead of staying at home, looking for a job and watching Dr. Phil. And I'm sorry I did not agree with Dr. phil at all in this episode. Sonya maybe considered the perfectionist but she was not perfect because she did make some mistakes but only had good intentions for her child, and she did not go over the top, may be with the childhood paegents. But the lady with the two athletic kids was nothing near a perfectionist if she was, then her girl would not be that fat, no offense, Im fat too but again it has to do with my family also. She was just pushy and she just needs to shut up during her kids games!!!! But Sonya, I'm just proud of you, you are an inspiration to me and should be an inspiration to the mothers of this generations.  Dr. Phil kept telling you it's not abput you, I think he just said that to hear some claps, I don't think you made it about you, There is nothing wrong with trying to become a perfect mom and raising a perfect child, only good will come out of that, I strongly believe that!!!! You are amazing Sonya!
There's a difference between guidance, encouragement, and support and planning your child's whole life.  I agree with Dr. Phil that Sonya has good intentions.  However, it's all about balance.  As a mother of a 22-year old daughter who is "awesome" (not perfect), I have had high expectations for my daughter, but always expressed to her that home was a safe place to "fall"  when things didn't go the way she expected.  THERE IS NO PERFECT MOM OR PERFECT CHILD!!!!    What is Perfect, after all?  It's those mistakes and failures that refine us and make us stronger (and better!).  I feel sorry for you that your parents didn't encourage you to find your best self, but don't blame it all on your parents, either.  You are the ultimate decider of who you will become.  Keep looking! 
 
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August 1, 2008, 2:17 pm PDT

Sonya is a bomb waiting to go off

Sonya didn't get one thing Dr Phil said to her.  When that poor girl gets home, her mother is going to let her have it for making her look bad.  Remember: the daughter is supposed to be perfect and a perfect child would never criticize her mother!

 

If that poor girl doesn't move to the other side of the world her mother is going to be in her face forever.  No job will ever be good enough and certainly no man is ever going to be good enough. Can you image Sonya as a mother-in-law? 

 
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August 1, 2008, 2:28 pm PDT

No Perfect child

I'm 22 years old and my parents are still on me. I love them with all my heart and would do anything for them, but there is a time to let go. Letting go is hard, but we are going to be what we want to be. Our parents are there for support not to tell us what to do with our lives. I thank God for my parents and for them supporting my decisions.  I'm not the perfect child and  neither will be my child. I will admit I have made some wrong choices, but I have always made up for it. I'm now in the medical field and I'm still going to school to reach my goal. My parents are still supporting me everyday..  

 
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August 1, 2008, 2:45 pm PDT

Don't take so much on..

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What if I've already screwed up my son's life?

What can he do to overcome my inept parenting?

I understand that I meddled in his decisions, and that as a result he has no self esteem or self worth.

It breaks my heart because that was not my intention.  What is your advice on this?

You, alone probably did not screw up your son's life, and it is NEVER to late to try and move forward.  I am going through very difficult times with my sons, and I have learned to not take on all of the guilt.  It is most destructive to do so.  Let him know how you feel, and give him the chance to tell you how he FEELS.  You don't say how old he is, but treat him with respect at any age.  If he feels respected and validated that is the most important thing right now.  Apologize to him, Lose the guilt, and start to move on.  Allow him his own mindset, even if very different from yours.  NOONE EVER Intends to hurt their own child.  None of us were given a handbook specific to our own child.  We do the best we can with what's called our "Internal Working Model", which is what we learned from our own parents as to how to parent.  Forgiveness is key.  Once mistakes are forgiven (maybe never forgotten, that's how we learn not to do it again), we can figure out the why, and move on, without the past holding us back.  Does this help?  Trust me, I've made my share of mistakes with my kids, paid high prices, and have learned a lot from it. :)  Start by LOSING THE GUILT through forgiving yourself...That's the hardest part.
 
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August 1, 2008, 2:56 pm PDT

Thank you Dr Phil!

This mother is living her life over again through her daughter. One day it is likely to backfire on her.

I am the mother of 3, 2 daughters and a son. I was widowed when my girls were 9 and12 yrs old. I became mother, father, everything to my girls. I believed in guiding my girls, letting them make their own decisions but, I held final veto power on these decisions. I believed my job as a parent was to teach them, right from wrong, family values, responsibility, how to survive as adults when they grew up and I was no longer there.

My children are all grown now, the youngest being 25 yrs old. Yes, they all made mistakes, some of them were whoppers. But the one thing they knew without a doubt was they could come to me with any problem , I may not have liked the situation they got themselves into, but together we would work out a solution. I am very proud of how my children turned out, the youngest is a certified nursing assistant, the older 2 joined the USMC and did their 4 yr hitches. My daughters have given me 2 wonderful grandchildren with a 3rd due in Nov.  We are all very close to one another and I would not change a thing about any one of them.

 

 

 
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August 1, 2008, 2:59 pm PDT

What about the perfect Partners?

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There's a difference between guidance, encouragement, and support and planning your child's whole life.  I agree with Dr. Phil that Sonya has good intentions.  However, it's all about balance.  As a mother of a 22-year old daughter who is "awesome" (not perfect), I have had high expectations for my daughter, but always expressed to her that home was a safe place to "fall"  when things didn't go the way she expected.  THERE IS NO PERFECT MOM OR PERFECT CHILD!!!!    What is Perfect, after all?  It's those mistakes and failures that refine us and make us stronger (and better!).  I feel sorry for you that your parents didn't encourage you to find your best self, but don't blame it all on your parents, either.  You are the ultimate decider of who you will become.  Keep looking! 
What about the man she meets and marries someday?  Will he be hand-picked and perfect?  I doubt that. And then, the Perfect Babies they have?  OMG, People need to start getting REAL, not like the little girl in the pageant who is forced to look 18 at the age of 3,4, or 5.  This is an illness, and it goes along with the sickness in our society of wanting everything now, perfect, no matter what the cost to the souls of ourselves and others.  My little saying has always been, "It is in our IMperfections that human beings become and are PERFECT human beings."  You can quote me anytime on that.
 

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