Topic : 08/01 Perfectionist Moms

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(Original Air Date: 04/03/08) Every parent believes his or her child is special – the best athlete, the best behaved or the most beautiful -- but for some moms, the pursuit of having the perfect child can turn into an obsession. Sonya says her 18-year-old daughter, Annie, was born perfect. The mom even went so far as to have her tubes tied right after giving birth so she could devote all her time to molding the perfect child! She started entering Annie in beauty pageants when she was 6 months old, and when the girl was 4, she made her watch reality medical shows so she would grow up to be a doctor. Annie regrets not having a normal childhood, and says she hated being pressured to succeed at such a young age. What’s behind Sonya’s obsession with perfection? Then, Cathy says she wants her 13-year-old daughter, Lexie, and her 18-year-old son, Nick, to be the best. Lexie says her mom hassles her about her weight and made her work out an hour a day at age 6! Nick says his mother drives his coaches crazy at sporting events by screaming and critiquing his game. Cathy says she’ll continue to badger and push her kids because she believes they’ll benefit in the long run. But will her controlling ways push her kids away? Share your views here.

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April 3, 2008, 1:26 pm PDT

Ourtaged!

I am watching Dr. Phil right now, and I am outraged at what I am seeing.  

First and foremost, the mother needs to realize there is NO such thing as pefect. It sickens me and breaks my heart that there are even parents out there who do this to their kids - weather you control your kid in a "nice" way, or a "mean" way, it's abusive and it's still controlling.  Does this mother even know her daughter? My guess is no.  In looking at this mother on the t.v. she looks so void of feeling and emotion. I think the mother needs serious help.  I hope it is not too late, either.

I have seen numerous kids who are raised with feeling the need to be perfect, weather it's perceived or real (such as this case).  I was one of those kids.  I, along with many other people, in an attempt to fufill unrealistic expecations in general, revolved in and out of treatment centers.  We starved ourselves, we binged and purged, we cut ourselves.  Some of us tried suicide, and I personally know some who succeded.  I know some who along the way died during their persuit for perfection, who purged one time too many, or who were so malnourished they couldn't even function let alone do anything that resembled living.  I would like to scream and shake this mother and say, hellooooo, stop, don't you see what you are doing?  There is absolutely nothing you can do to fill that void within you that you did not get.  Your daughter is perfect, as is ..  A's or C's, beauty queen or dork in the back of the class. 

 

Newsflash, it is your job as a parent to enrich your daughters life, not  place such unrealistic expectations on her that you are robbing her of her self esteem, and most importantly her identity.

 

My heart breaks for the mom, because I can't even imagine what she went through as a child to have turned to the complete opposite extreme.

 

My heart breaks for her daughter.  The daughter is obviously beautiful and full of life, but holding her vibrance back to please her mom.

 

Please Dr. Phil, I really hope that they get family therapy, this is such a toxic enmeshed and insane relationship, I would hate to see what happens if there is no intervention and this cycle repeats.

 
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April 3, 2008, 1:26 pm PDT

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I grew up down the street from the "perfect"  family. These parents pushed all of their 4 kids to strive for perfection. Needless to say as the years went by the kids were not perfect and therefore felt as though they were inadequate and letting their parents down. At age 16 the middle girl became pregnant. The middle son at the age of 17 shot and killed himself as the result of these feelings. Now, this "perfect family" will suffer forever because of parents who expected perfection. And did they get it? of course not.
 it's almost a self-fulfilling prophecy. the parents are so sure theirkids beed their pushiness to succeed that theypush too hard  and it leads to the very problems they hopedto avoid,
 
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April 3, 2008, 1:27 pm PDT

For the kids...something to try?

Growing up, my parents were like any other parents; very protective, or maybe felt that we couldn't do things as well as them.  They would tell us something to do, but then they were there doing it and fussing because it wasn't right or it wasn't done quickly enough.  And then there were the times, even as I got older, that my dad would lecture me before going somewhere or before doing something he felt might be dangerous in some way.  So, for instance, when I said, "I'm going to Greensboro tonight with some friends (which is about 30 minutes away with heavier traffic than our rural home area).  I would get the lecture of, "now you be careful, people drive crazy out there.....watch what you're doing, don't speak to strange people...etc. etc. etc."  Finally one day I looked at him and said, "Daddy, you're right!  After all, I'm only 30 years old, which is only 7 years older than you were when you arrived home from Vietnam and you and mom conceived me....and after all...you DID raise a bumbling idiot!"  After a few times of this, he learned to keep quiet and just let me go without the lecture.  But it was hard for me, since I was the oldest and wasn't allowed to do as much.  My dad was a volunteer firefighter and when I was old enough he didn't want me to follow in his footsteps, for all the obvious reasons.  But now, I'm a Vol. Firefighter of almost 20 years and he loves to hear me tell the stories like I always loved to hear his.  We can enjoy a good conversation about a trade that we both love dearly....and he realizes that he didn't raise a bumbling idiot after all!

 
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April 3, 2008, 1:27 pm PDT

04/03 Perfectionist Moms

I think that the care and love that Annie showed her mother and the concern for her mother's feelings was telling.  This is a loving, caring young adult who would not hurt or let her mother down for anything in the world.  She is just wants to be enough- imperfections and all. 
 
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April 3, 2008, 1:30 pm PDT

I'm one of those

As hard as it is to admit - I am one of those Moms...  more so with my oldest.  She is 16 and the child from a relationship that didn't work....  however she was my saving grace and my world turned around in ways I had never imagined when my focused changed to being a mom....  her father's family has always been looming over my shoulder waiting for me to make that one mistake that proves all along they were right and I am not capable of raising a child to their standards...  My daughter is very accomplished, bright, athletic.... truly everything a mom could want.... but I know she would dub me a monster mom I'm sure....  I'm not sure HOW to back off... think too that the fear is always there that she'll make the mistakes I made and I want so much more for her...  I have really no doubt about what she will accomplish on her own - I just can't manage to not look over her shoulder....  any advice is worthy of listening to.
 
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April 3, 2008, 1:37 pm PDT

No child should be made to feel lesser

I am writing in regards to this lady feeling her child is better than others just because she had the ability to put her in all these extra curricular activities.  I would like her to know shame on her for not letting her child live a teenage life.  I have had life struggle with my boys and had a grandchild before marriage.  But guess what.  Her daughter is no better than my boys as far as a person.  My boys have very loving and big hearts and would love to be accepted by all.  Shame on this mom for trying to make this child something she doesn't want to do. 
 
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April 3, 2008, 1:38 pm PDT

I agree with this

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When I was 13, my parents had a very serious talk with me.  It opened the door for many more discussions.  They told me that in five years, I would legally be an adult, but that age alone would not give me the tools I needed to be successful as an independent person.  Over the next five years, I was given more responsibilities and more rights.  When I wanted to do something that  didn't have my parents' approval, they told me why they disapproved, but allowed me to make my own decisions.  They also let me know that they were always there for me.  If I found myself in a situation that I couldn't handle, I could call on them anytime, anyplace.  When it was time for me to take those first steps to living away from home, I was amazed at how much better prepared I was than the girls in my dorm.  I knew how to cook, do laundry, shop, clean, and most importantly, I knew how to say, "No."   I also knew that making a mistake was not the end of the world.  I knew how to accept the responsiblity of my actions and decisions, and I knew that Mama and Daddy were there for me, always loving and caring.
When we feed our children, at the proper age, with reality, they learn with guidance.  And what I mean by proper age is intellectually.  Some children at 10 or 11 can handle things that another child at 12 or 13 can't handle yet.  We must judge our own children using their scale of thought process and problem solving.  When my son was 10, he had an accident on his bicycle in which it threw him over the handle bars and one of the bars caught him in his scrotum area.  The injury was a slightly torn scrotum (sac).  I, of course, was hysterical.  I had my dad and husband check him in the bathroom when I realized what the injury was.  They tried to explain to him that he needed to go to the hospital.  But with his modesty and fear, he refused.  I finally took him into a bedroom and shut the door and we sat on the bed side by side and had the talk of the birds and the bees in the correct biological terms, no slang talk.  This helped him to see how important it was to seek medical attention and how dangerous it could be if he did not.  Although he looked as though he'd seen a ghost when I got done explaining it all...he, nonetheless, understood and handled it very well.  He now is 13 and is in Junior High.  He comes home each day and tells me things that kids are doing or saying and if he doesn't understand something, he knows he'll get the straight answer from me and my opinion as to whether its morally correct or not.  He is very mature, I think, for his age.  But then again....like any parent, I'm a bit prejudice! LOL
 

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April 3, 2008, 1:38 pm PDT

Mothers

I haven't finished watching the show but this first mother NEEDS TO GET A LIFE OF HER OWN!  She is going to be lost when her daughter moves out.  The second mom is coming on now and she sounds obnoxious and needs to back off!
 
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April 3, 2008, 1:39 pm PDT

LOVE MY CHILDREN

WHEN MY CHILDREN WERE GROWING UP, I ALWAYS TOLD THEM TO ENJOY LIFE, DON'T BE AFRAID TO TRY NEW THINGS.  IF LIFE GIVES YOU LEMONS - MAKE LEMONADE!

 I ALSO TOLD THEM THAT NO MATTER WHAT THEY DECIDED TO DO WHEN THEY GREW UP, DO THE BEST THEY COULD AT IT.  IF YOU WANT TO BE A DITCH DIGGER,  DIG THE BEST DITCH YOU CAN.  TODAY I AM VERY PROUD OF ALL OF MY CHILDREN.  ONE IS A PREACHER (I MAY NOT ALWAYS AGREE WITH HIM BUT HE IS GOOD), ONE TEACHES AT A CHRISTIAN SCHOOL (WILL NOT TEACH AT PUBLIC SCHOOLS BECAUSE PRAYER IS NOT ALLOWED) AND TAKES CARE OF FOSTER CHILDREN (IN THE PROCESS OF ADOPTING TWO OF THEM), ONE IS A COMPUTER SPECIALISTS (I REALLY DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW HE DOES THINGS).  THEY ARE ALL IN THEIR 30s AND SEEM TO BE VERY HAPPY IN THEIR LIVES.

 
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April 3, 2008, 1:44 pm PDT

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I have to wonder....will Sonya go along on Annie's honeymoon some day (with, of course, the man Sonya has picked out) to make sure Annie does everything perfectly?? Hmmmm

 

I'm surprised she doesn't follow her and make sure she uses the bathroom perfectly, too.  She's so far up that poor girls rear end, she could probably observe first hand.

 

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