Topic : 04/04 Ask Dr. Phil about Parenting

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Are you tired of your kids talking back, being disobedient and acting up when they don’t get their way? Along with Dr. Frank Lawlis, author of Mending the Broken Bond, Dr. Phil has advice for calming a chaotic household. First up, Jennifer says her 12-year-old daughter, Sydney, is out of control, and Jennifer's marriage to Craig is suffering as a result. She says Sydney hangs out with the wrong crowd, lies constantly and is failing school. The teen was recently in hot water when she sent a topless photo from her cell phone to her boyfriend that was circulated around the school! Craig says he’s frustrated that Jennifer undermines his discipline, and he’s hurt that his stepdaughter doesn’t respect him. Can this family get back on track, or is it too late for Jennifer to save her marriage? Then, Diane and Clayton say their 17-year-old daughter, Logan, is rude, doesn’t do her chores and always breaks curfew. Logan wants her folks to get off her back because she’ll be 18 soon, and she wants to get her own place. Find out what happens when Dr. Lawlis makes a house call to bring some balance to the family. Is Logan ready to move out on her own, and will her folks be able to handle her independence? Join the discussion.

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April 8, 2008, 7:53 am PDT

04/04 Ask Dr. Phil about Parenting

Quote From: housewife52

Before I had kids, I really thought spanking was the way to dicipline. I had no idea how it would make ME feel. It just felt very wrong to me. I had to rethink things and try something different. I wish I had never done it in the first place. I was really surprised to find that other means worked just as well.  I kind of evolved into a non spanking mother. It just didn't feel right to hit my kid. When I was growing up, spanking was just accepted by everyone. I never knew of a parent who didn't spank. When I was in school we had corporal punishment. 60s and early 70s. The principal had a board with holes in it (I heard about it, I was never hit with it. As a matter of fact, back then it was only boys who got licks. All through grade school and high school, I never heard of a girl getting paddled.  And in a strange sort pf way, it was almost a status sort of thing to "survive" a paddling. Boys were stoic and refused to cry. Of course it wasn't something new to them because I'm pretty sure they were hit at home, too.) Because of my experience with spanking, I would encourage parents to try other means in the beginning. Like me, they might discover that other ways work just as well. I was 27 years old before I even had kids. Looking back, I almost feel like I was "brainwashed" into thinking that when you have kids, you just simply spank them and that's that. I am ashamed that I started out thinking that way. I actually have a mind of my own. I'm not blaming anyone else for my actions. I take full responsibity for thinking the way I did. It was such a strange experience to begin with spanking and think "This doesn't feel right to me." You're right, in my experience, it was considered wrong to NOT spank. If you dared to say "I don't  think spanking is right", people would look at you like you were crazy. Back then, if a kid got into trouble, the saying was " The kid needs a trip to the woodshed". I truly encourage parents to try something else. The next time you spank your child, stop for a moment and think about what you are doing. You are hitting your child. Hitting your child. How can that be acceptable? Try something else.

I don't know if anybody saw the news today but there is something so disturbing on it I sat and cried.

 

Evidently a 16 year old girl called authorities about a religious compound she was living in Texas.  A woman was interviewed about what went on in the compound and it was horrendous.  One of the means of "discipline" the men used on their own children was called "baby breaking".  Evidently...what this involved was spanking a BABY until he/she cried and then running water from a water faucet on their face so they couldn't breathe.  This was done over and over until the baby was too exhausted to cry and the purpose of this was to "break the baby".  I am sick about this. 

 
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April 8, 2008, 8:29 am PDT

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In what part of my post did I say a bad parent (as I would like to call them, the other kind of mother) would qualify to give advice, and who in their right minds would take it.

 

So put the other kind of mother asided, because she just wouldn't care, wouldn't have a clue, as to my point. and my point being that a mother knows no greater love then what she feels for her children. and no one and no book can teach you that feeling, 

My point is that you simply cannot determine from these posts what kind of a mother a person is.  A mother will come on this board and admit to and condone smacking their kids.....and then go on about how great a mom she is....when in reality she may have no maternal instinct what so ever.

 

that a mother knows no greater love then what she feels for her children. and no one and no book can teach you that feeling, 

 

....and my point is that not all mothers feel this great love just because they give birth.


 
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April 8, 2008, 9:48 am PDT

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My point is that you simply cannot determine from these posts what kind of a mother a person is.  A mother will come on this board and admit to and condone smacking their kids.....and then go on about how great a mom she is....when in reality she may have no maternal instinct what so ever.

 

that a mother knows no greater love then what she feels for her children. and no one and no book can teach you that feeling, 

 

....and my point is that not all mothers feel this great love just because they give birth.


"My point is that you simply cannot determine from these posts what kind of a mother a person is. " Did you really just stay that? I realize you tried to backtrack and sway it your way but YOU said that? You should probably take your own advice.
 
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April 8, 2008, 10:07 am PDT

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My point is that you simply cannot determine from these posts what kind of a mother a person is.  A mother will come on this board and admit to and condone smacking their kids.....and then go on about how great a mom she is....when in reality she may have no maternal instinct what so ever.

 

that a mother knows no greater love then what she feels for her children. and no one and no book can teach you that feeling, 

 

....and my point is that not all mothers feel this great love just because they give birth.


well I feel sorry for those mothers that can't experience that love. and i feel sorry for those out there that had bad parents, I am a good mother, was raised by a great mother, who was raised by a great mother. I dout I am of just a few,

 

and no you can't just judge by the post , but when someone says something that strikes as totally wrong, well I have a right to say what I think on it, as you do,

 

I believe that you judge by what you know, and what you experienced in life, and if you had a bad life you judge by it without seeing the other side, a spanking to you has a different meaning to you, then it does to me, I was spanked 3 time in my life, and I can't say it effected me, it was no worse then tearing a band aid off, but I wasn't beat or verally abused, so I judge by that, so when a poster says that what they do then, I infer what they say by  what happento me,

 
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April 8, 2008, 10:12 am PDT

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"My point is that you simply cannot determine from these posts what kind of a mother a person is. " Did you really just stay that? I realize you tried to backtrack and sway it your way but YOU said that? You should probably take your own advice.
Hey punk, do you know other love greater then the love you have for your children, have you found any love that you could judge it my?  I can't believe I am get a agrument on that .
 
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April 8, 2008, 10:24 am PDT

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"My point is that you simply cannot determine from these posts what kind of a mother a person is. " Did you really just stay that? I realize you tried to backtrack and sway it your way but YOU said that? You should probably take your own advice.
I don't spank,  you do spank, but I would have to say I haven't heard anying come out in your post, that would make my mouth drop,  I read the hole post, not just what I disagree with. and the hole of the post is that you love your kids and try different things with them,  you don't back track,
 
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April 8, 2008, 10:42 am PDT

I won't argue that....

Quote From: getrealtime

Hey punk, do you know other love greater then the love you have for your children, have you found any love that you could judge it my?  I can't believe I am get a agrument on that .

There is nothing or no one that could hold a candle to my children. The reason I was shocked that sugar posted that is that sugar has decided that I'm a horrible abusive mother with little demons for children based on nothing more than how sugar interpreted my posts. My children are my entire world. I have devoted my life to loving them and keeping them safe. I was headed way down the wrong path when I became pregnant the first time and my love for them absolutely turned my life around. They are the thread that holds me together. I believe any good parent feels this way.

 
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April 8, 2008, 10:46 am PDT

I'm a little confused by this post...

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I don't spank,  you do spank, but I would have to say I haven't heard anying come out in your post, that would make my mouth drop,  I read the hole post, not just what I disagree with. and the hole of the post is that you love your kids and try different things with them,  you don't back track,
I absolutely agree with what you were saying in your posts. Spanking aside, because it is a personal choice, I believe what makes a good mother is love for their children, communication with their children, and whatever discipline works with the exception of course of beating the daylights out of them or abusing them in any way. I don't believe that parents who don't spank are always  bad parents and I don't believe that parents who do spank are always great parents. There are people who don't deserve to have kids at all on both sides of the fence. There are absolutely awesome parents on both sides of the fence. As long as your child grows up knowing right from wrong and that they are absolutely loved unconditionally, you're a success!
 
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April 8, 2008, 1:19 pm PDT

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"My point is that you simply cannot determine from these posts what kind of a mother a person is. " Did you really just stay that? I realize you tried to backtrack and sway it your way but YOU said that? You should probably take your own advice.
 

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 I agree, you don't know if it worked. But spanking is a time honored form of discipline. Back when the main method for discipline was spanking, how many school shooting were there? How many kids were killing kids just for the hell of it? How many teen pregnancies were there? Do your research. Even the bible (btw I do not believe in God, but for those of you who do) says spare the rod, spoil the child, does it not
 

  


 

 
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April 8, 2008, 1:20 pm PDT

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I absolutely agree with what you were saying in your posts. Spanking aside, because it is a personal choice, I believe what makes a good mother is love for their children, communication with their children, and whatever discipline works with the exception of course of beating the daylights out of them or abusing them in any way. I don't believe that parents who don't spank are always  bad parents and I don't believe that parents who do spank are always great parents. There are people who don't deserve to have kids at all on both sides of the fence. There are absolutely awesome parents on both sides of the fence. As long as your child grows up knowing right from wrong and that they are absolutely loved unconditionally, you're a success!

sorry it took so long to get back, had to get outside, start getting my yard ready for summer,

and I understand  what you where saying too, when said poster, can't judge a person on what they post, and I got the hit at the end of it too, they can get like a pack of dogs, one starts to attack they all jump in. I didn't think that I would have to explain my post about what a mother feels about their child,

it was clear, and the other kind of mother wouldn't understand it and wouldn't care to understand it,

 

 

 

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