Topic : 04/04 Ask Dr. Phil about Parenting

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Are you tired of your kids talking back, being disobedient and acting up when they don’t get their way? Along with Dr. Frank Lawlis, author of Mending the Broken Bond, Dr. Phil has advice for calming a chaotic household. First up, Jennifer says her 12-year-old daughter, Sydney, is out of control, and Jennifer's marriage to Craig is suffering as a result. She says Sydney hangs out with the wrong crowd, lies constantly and is failing school. The teen was recently in hot water when she sent a topless photo from her cell phone to her boyfriend that was circulated around the school! Craig says he’s frustrated that Jennifer undermines his discipline, and he’s hurt that his stepdaughter doesn’t respect him. Can this family get back on track, or is it too late for Jennifer to save her marriage? Then, Diane and Clayton say their 17-year-old daughter, Logan, is rude, doesn’t do her chores and always breaks curfew. Logan wants her folks to get off her back because she’ll be 18 soon, and she wants to get her own place. Find out what happens when Dr. Lawlis makes a house call to bring some balance to the family. Is Logan ready to move out on her own, and will her folks be able to handle her independence? Join the discussion.

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April 8, 2008, 4:03 pm PDT

Lol, I know....

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I think its just about life and what you pull from it, even the guy who used a switch, I could relate to something in my life, He sounds  just a good ole boy!!, from the south, traditions run deep, and a switch is not unheard of. My grandmother was a lady fromthe south, and used the swictch on my dad and his sibs. they are and where very successful in life, and not abusive, my grandmother would go make them get a switch off a tree and bring it back,lol, they laugh when they tell stories of their childhood, and the walk to the tree. most of them never used the switch on their kids , maybe  because they married women from the north, 
My husband was raised with the switch! He had to go get a switch for his mom to whack him with. She also had a paddle. That paddle now sits on my end table in my living room. Not that I would EVER use it on what of my kids but it's a part of his past and when he looks back on it, he laughs too! That's what I was trying to say though is that it takes more than spankings to raise children. Whether you spank or not, you can still be a good parent! But none of us are going to know if we're "right or wrong" until we see the finished product. I can relate to alot of things that alot of people on this board say whether I agree with their views on spanking or not. I just hope that other people can see that too.
 
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April 8, 2008, 4:15 pm PDT

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My husband was raised with the switch! He had to go get a switch for his mom to whack him with. She also had a paddle. That paddle now sits on my end table in my living room. Not that I would EVER use it on what of my kids but it's a part of his past and when he looks back on it, he laughs too! That's what I was trying to say though is that it takes more than spankings to raise children. Whether you spank or not, you can still be a good parent! But none of us are going to know if we're "right or wrong" until we see the finished product. I can relate to alot of things that alot of people on this board say whether I agree with their views on spanking or not. I just hope that other people can see that too.
I don't even think the spanking and non spnking as we are speaking of it, will tell much, its the rest of it that makes the child , love, trust, being there for them, the laughs, teaching them a good value system to look to .  that is what teaches them , they are not going think of  if my parent just didn't spank or if my parent did spank, my life would of been better,its what you instill in them.
 
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April 8, 2008, 5:51 pm PDT

You are absolutely right....

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I don't even think the spanking and non spnking as we are speaking of it, will tell much, its the rest of it that makes the child , love, trust, being there for them, the laughs, teaching them a good value system to look to .  that is what teaches them , they are not going think of  if my parent just didn't spank or if my parent did spank, my life would of been better,its what you instill in them.

That's what I meant by being a parent is about more than whether or not to spank a child. They are going to remember either all of the love you showed them or the love you didn't. That is why I believe spanking is ok, if I thought for a second it would scar them for life, I wouldn't do it. I also understand the position of not spanking. I am not condemning any parent for choosing to go that route, society as a whole needs to get a grip and unfortunately, not all parents understand that there are other ways of disciplining children. They think, oh, don't spank so, oh, I won't discipline at all. That is what I mean by kids being out of control. Whether people agree with me or not, fear of getting spanked is more likely to prevent a child from doing wrong than taking their cell phone away will. I'm talking about children on an even playing field with loving, not abusive or passive parents.

 
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April 9, 2008, 6:47 am PDT

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There you go again , using a  pat on the butt  and without anger, as smacking your kid around, smackingyour kid around will cause damage to your child, but who said anything about smacking a child around?? who is saying anything about smacking , beating a child on a daily bases or a weekly ,

 

and heres where life experiences come in, my 3 spanking, did not effect me, so when someone talks about a controled spank I understand what they are saying,  their not talking about smacking achild at free will, its not used on the child as a first form of discipline,

 and I did say you have a right to your to say what you think, read the post over again.

 

and once again I was not talking about the other kind of mother who shows no maternal instinic, to speak to her would be pointless, and I think most mother have that maternal instinic, and know what I am talking about.

There you go again , using a  pat on the butt  and without anger, as smacking your kid around,

 

 

If you think that parents who hit their kids simply give them a "pat on the butt" you are highly naive.  A pat on the butt could be a term of endearment....  The reason parents hit their children is to cause them pain or what would be the point?  It's not a "pat on the butt"....it is hitting them and hitting them with enough force to cause pain.

 

who is saying anything about smacking , beating a child on a daily bases or a weekly ,

 

So you don't think that children that get hit NEVER receive it on a daily basis or a weekly basis?  What if their parents feel that the child's behavior warrants being hit on a daily basis or a weekly basis? 

 

  their not talking about smacking achild at free will, its not used on the child as a first form of discipline

 

How the heck do you know what they are "talking about" ???  Do you really think somebody is going to come on this board and say, "Golly gee...I beat my kid regularly and with force"...??????????????  Of course parents that resort to hitting their kids are going to put themselves in the best possible light because they don't want anybody telling them they can't hit their kids...especially the law....because they don't want to bother being inconvenienced with more constructive forms of discipline.

 

Are there parents that don't take hitting to the extreme?  I would imagine there are, however, sooner or later if they get in the habit of hitting their kids for behavior problems....they will do it out of anger or unjustifiably.

 

and once again I was not talking about the other kind of mother who shows no maternal instinic, to speak to her would be pointless, and I think most mother have that maternal instinic, and know what I am talking about

 

...and once again I AM talking about mothers that have no maternal instinct and giving birth doesn't magically give them one.

 
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April 9, 2008, 7:43 am PDT

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That's what I meant by being a parent is about more than whether or not to spank a child. They are going to remember either all of the love you showed them or the love you didn't. That is why I believe spanking is ok, if I thought for a second it would scar them for life, I wouldn't do it. I also understand the position of not spanking. I am not condemning any parent for choosing to go that route, society as a whole needs to get a grip and unfortunately, not all parents understand that there are other ways of disciplining children. They think, oh, don't spank so, oh, I won't discipline at all. That is what I mean by kids being out of control. Whether people agree with me or not, fear of getting spanked is more likely to prevent a child from doing wrong than taking their cell phone away will. I'm talking about children on an even playing field with loving, not abusive or passive parents.

 not all parents understand that there are other ways of disciplining children. They think, oh, don't spank so, oh, I won't discipline at all.

 

Well, the way you go on and on about society and how the teens of today are just so out of control.....and you did imply this, then you think this is the majority.  Again you are "assuming" that just because parents don't hit their children.....they they automatically don't discipline them at all.

 

You DID say that school shootings and teen pregnancies are the result of not using corporal punishment.  Yet you have no proof to back this up.  I think it was Penny that said that most households have microwaves in them too, does this mean that school shootings and teen pregnancy is the result of microwave ovens??  Perhaps it's the result of computers....most teens today grew up with computers...hmmmmm, you have one in your house.   

 

How about this....how about we get rid of EVERYTHING that kids in '50's didn't have (since you feel during that time teens were wonderful)....including child abuse laws..... 

 
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April 9, 2008, 10:10 am PDT

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April 9, 2008, 10:16 am PDT

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There you go again , using a  pat on the butt  and without anger, as smacking your kid around,

 

 

If you think that parents who hit their kids simply give them a "pat on the butt" you are highly naive.  A pat on the butt could be a term of endearment....  The reason parents hit their children is to cause them pain or what would be the point?  It's not a "pat on the butt"....it is hitting them and hitting them with enough force to cause pain.

 

who is saying anything about smacking , beating a child on a daily bases or a weekly ,

 

So you don't think that children that get hit NEVER receive it on a daily basis or a weekly basis?  What if their parents feel that the child's behavior warrants being hit on a daily basis or a weekly basis? 

 

  their not talking about smacking achild at free will, its not used on the child as a first form of discipline

 

How the heck do you know what they are "talking about" ???  Do you really think somebody is going to come on this board and say, "Golly gee...I beat my kid regularly and with force"...??????????????  Of course parents that resort to hitting their kids are going to put themselves in the best possible light because they don't want anybody telling them they can't hit their kids...especially the law....because they don't want to bother being inconvenienced with more constructive forms of discipline.

 

Are there parents that don't take hitting to the extreme?  I would imagine there are, however, sooner or later if they get in the habit of hitting their kids for behavior problems....they will do it out of anger or unjustifiably.

 

and once again I was not talking about the other kind of mother who shows no maternal instinic, to speak to her would be pointless, and I think most mother have that maternal instinic, and know what I am talking about

 

...and once again I AM talking about mothers that have no maternal instinct and giving birth doesn't magically give them one.

well suger I can only tell you what happen in my house when I was a kid, it didn't hurt it wasn't done in anger, and  it only happen three times, sorry it just doesn't fit into a box.

 

go to the other spanking  board its quicker

 
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April 9, 2008, 10:17 am PDT

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April 9, 2008, 1:20 pm PDT

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well suger I can only tell you what happen in my house when I was a kid, it didn't hurt it wasn't done in anger, and  it only happen three times, sorry it just doesn't fit into a box.

 

go to the other spanking  board its quicker

 If it didn't hurt then it wasn't a spanking.  For some reason you are trying to justify "spanking" because when you got one it didn't hurt.  How do you even know it even was a spanking and not just a little pat on the butt as you walked by as a sign of affection.

LOL...I mean really, what you are describing...."it didn't hurt and it wasn't done in anger"....is simply  a pat and could have been done to you for doing something good.  I don't think you even "know" what a spanking is.

So let me see if I have this right.  You mis-behaved...and your mother walked up to you smiling and tapped your butt?????   LOL...that wasn't a spanking.
 
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April 9, 2008, 1:21 pm PDT

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 Thank you very much .
 

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