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Created on : Friday, April 04, 2008, 02:11:21 pm
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(Original Air Date: 04/09/08) “Fat slob!” “Lardo!” “Lazy butt!” Obese people are often the target of ridicule, but can you imagine hearing this type of verbal abuse from your own spouse? Dr. Phil takes on fat abusers, people who intentionally belittle their husband or wife simply for being overweight. Roger says he was very clear when he told his wife, Linda, before they were married that he couldn’t stand fat people. Now 20 years later, Roger says Linda has gained 40 pounds and is about to lose him. He says sex with her is like “rolling around in a bowl of Jell-O” and is considering divorce if she doesn’t shed the pounds. Should Linda take his behavior as a wake-up call and end the marriage? Then, Alisa and Leon have been married for 28 years, but now that he tips the scales at 305 pounds, she calls him “Fat Butt.” She filed for divorce because she says she can’t stand looking at his stinky, flabby body. Their daughter, Amy, also puts Leon down and says he's the reason that she’s full-figured. Don't miss Dr. Phil's surprise for Leon! And, viewers were left speechless by Rick, who called his wife, Karen, a fat whore, fat pig and even the C-word. Has he changed his abusive ways? Join the discussion.

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April 9, 2008, 4:05 pm PDT

04/09 Fat Abusers

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When people meet and fall in love, the relationship is based at least in part on appearances.  People who find heavy people attractive marry heavy people.  People who aren't attracted to heavy people marry fit people.  When a person becomes overweight (in cases where a medical condition is not the cause), they are categorically betraying the person who fell in love with them when they were fit.

 

It is incomprehendible to me that Dr. Phil defends overeaters and treats them as victims!  It is counter-productive to let people who have made a CHOICE to let their bodies get so out of control be treated like poor, unappreciated victims.  When did using willpower cease to become a reasonable expectation of one's partner?

 

People who get fat after marriage are betraying their spouses.  How can Dr. Phil possibly not understand that to find yourself married to a fat person- when that's not what you chose, is an awful trap to be caught in?  When did being fat, slovenly, and unhealthy become acceptable?!

 

Appearance does matter in love.  It always has, and it always will.

"When people meet and fall in love, the relationship is based at least in part on appearances"

Not in my marriage. My husband and I met and fell in love online. We never even saw a picture of each other until after we had strong feelings. Bubble:Bursted LOL!

Hopefully, once a person gets to know someone their outside appearance becomes a little less important. Hopefully personality, intellect, hobbies, passions, interests..etc...is what TIES the people together for a long term relationship...because looks just don't ever stay the same! 

If a relationship is BASED on looks AT ALL it's a weak one. And I mean that. "BASED"? You are saying that "at least part" of a relationships BASIS is on superficial skin and bone structure and fat deposits?!

Appearance matters in initial attraction for SOME people....not all.

I am an over eater and I am a VICTIM. I over eat out of depression. I get a PHYSICAL HIGH when I over eat. I have a CHEMICAL DEPENDENCE on food. You can call me a liar all you want, do some research on it. I was thin when I got married...shortly after getting married I ballooned up, I gained 100+ lbs. I was dealing with some heavy issues with my parents. I had uncovered hurt that I didn't recognize before. I was ILL. My husband didn't DUMP on me...he saw that I was SICK and I needed HIM more than EVER.

If you marry someone BECAUSE they are good looking you are going to be very very disappointed very quickly.

I am a beautiful person inside...but I went through an ILLNESS and I am now dealing with the effects of that illness...that is FAT. I'm not ashamed of that. My husband isn't. He is TICKLED that a woman as AWESOME as me wanted to be with him! LOL (He's awesome too, he deserves me!)

Seriously....when did being superficial and lacking depth become acceptable?
 
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April 9, 2008, 4:07 pm PDT

Fat abusers

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Fat abusers is a term that people use to put down people who are excessively obese.  I know it is wrong to criticize people for being overweight.  Many people who are overweight have other health problems,  concerns, problems and issues that cause them to eat. 

 

I wish that people would stop and not judge people who are overweight.  They need a friend or someone to talk and listen to their concerns.  I stated that they have other problems that they can't deal with on their own.  They seek counseling.  They also need a strong person to listen to their concerns.  In time, when they have control over their life, meaning that they can cope with the negative issues that contribute to their eating habits, then they will do something about their weight. 

 

I have a good friend who is overweight and she is aware of the fact that she is overweight.  She also has a lot of other issues and hurt inside her.  She knows that she can call me and talk whenever she is feeling down.  She continues to see a therapist.  In time she will take control of her life and become a positive person that has a lot of self respect and esteem, she will then take care of herself.  Every day, little by little she is coping with her own demons and fears.  She has a lot of health problems and the medication that she is on, makes her gain weight. 

 

I give her more respect, knowing that she is doing the best that she can to try take better care of her self.  Like most people, she has her bad days and slips through the cracks and over eats.  She eats to get away from the pain that she is feeling inside of her and she eats to get away from the pressues that she is coping with today in her environment.  For now she has moved to a better environment and she would  not be subjected to negative things that were harming her, emotionally, ,mentally, spirtually and physically.

 

My final thought, people who are overweight have a reason to be  overweight and for whatever reason it may be, they need a lot of positive support from their friends, spouses, and family.  STOP the Criiticizing and listen to them. 

Fat abusers , I really think just like to be mean to people! I have known quite a few of them and they don't just abuse fat people. Their biggest mistake is thinking that "fat" people are lazy. That is not the case for most people!! I have a very good friend who is overwieght and she is the hardest working person I know. I have found that if people put aside their pejudices, we can get along with any one! As a society we need to stop looking at people from an outside point of  view and look at them with our hearts! Every one has a sign around their neck that says " make me feel important " . Overwieght people need support not ridicule! They make themselves feel worse than anyone else ever could.

 
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April 9, 2008, 4:10 pm PDT

04/09 Fat Abusers

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"Linda go back to the gym and get yourself a really good looking trainer like the one from the show!"

That sounds familiar...

Like maybe the guy from the OLD show who put a pic of a woman on his treadmill to inspire him?

yes doesn't it? 

 

The point is that not everyone is going to "make her feel bad about herself" and while her hubby is there all crabby blowing *smoke in her face* while trying to get on a  treadmill someone who's a looker and will make weight loss not only painless but fun is actually out there. 

 

 

She does not need to settle for an abuser and ther are many who would motivate her in a positive way.  :)

 

Oh and what goes around..........

 
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April 9, 2008, 4:11 pm PDT

Pots calling kettles black

It always amazes me how many wives or husbands wanting their spouses to be thinner or in better shape, or more attractive....and they themselves don't look any better than the spouse they want to change.  Do these people ever look in a mirror?  This works both ways! 
 
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April 9, 2008, 4:12 pm PDT

I love my overweight family

Fat abusers just infuriate me. I come from an overweight family. I am the oldest girl out of eight children. My mother has always been as big around as she is tall. My father, five brothers and two sisters are all overweight. I have never been overweight and hope to never be. But, I can't imagine saying some of those horrible things to people I love! I always get "teased" about being so thin by my whole family and everyone in general. My nickname is "Bones". A different spin on fat abusers is people who abuse those of us that are naturally thin. I get more fuss from anyone about being skinny, than my overweight familydoes about being overweight. I love all of my family just as they are, and it has never been an issue with our family.
 
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April 9, 2008, 4:16 pm PDT

04/09 Fat Abusers

Quote From: holdyourhorses

When people meet and fall in love, the relationship is based at least in part on appearances.  People who find heavy people attractive marry heavy people.  People who aren't attracted to heavy people marry fit people.  When a person becomes overweight (in cases where a medical condition is not the cause), they are categorically betraying the person who fell in love with them when they were fit.

 

It is incomprehendible to me that Dr. Phil defends overeaters and treats them as victims!  It is counter-productive to let people who have made a CHOICE to let their bodies get so out of control be treated like poor, unappreciated victims.  When did using willpower cease to become a reasonable expectation of one's partner?

 

People who get fat after marriage are betraying their spouses.  How can Dr. Phil possibly not understand that to find yourself married to a fat person- when that's not what you chose, is an awful trap to be caught in?  When did being fat, slovenly, and unhealthy become acceptable?!

 

Appearance does matter in love.  It always has, and it always will.

that's ridiculas.  I've been married for 26 years now and we've been through many physical changes and I've never thought "ohmygod you're fat".  or that I was suddenly unattracted to my husband

 

That's one of the mos superfical things I've ever heard and if you think *real love considers appearance then you've no place committing to someone for life. 

 

for better or worse means just that and having a weight issue isn't the same as having an affair.  THAT is a "betrayal"! 

 
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April 9, 2008, 4:19 pm PDT

04/09 Fat Abusers

Quote From: holdyourhorses

When people meet and fall in love, the relationship is based at least in part on appearances. People who find heavy people attractivemarry heavy people. People who aren'tattracted to heavy people marry fit people. When a person becomes overweight (in cases where a medical condition is not the cause), theyare categoricallybetraying the person who fell in love with them when they were fit.

It is incomprehendible to me that Dr. Phil defends overeaters and treats them as victims! It is counter-productive to let people who have made a CHOICE to let their bodies get so out of control be treated like poor, unappreciated victims. When did using willpower cease to become a reasonable expectation of one's partner?

People who get fat after marriage are betraying their spouses. How can Dr. Phil possibly not understand that to find yourself married to a fat person- when that's not what you chose, is an awful trap to be caught in? When did being fat, slovenly, and unhealthy become acceptable?!

Appearance does matter in love. It always has, and it always will.

when my hubby and i got together i was 27 lbs over weight and he stilled loved me for who i am not what he seen on the out side but what i have on the inside even tho i had lost the 27 lbs because i had to to make me feel better and have my back feel better  how dare u say that
 
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April 9, 2008, 4:19 pm PDT

but you...

I loved it when Dr Phil asked if the abuser owned a mirror. And that really awful guest sits and smokes while he abuses! Why are some vices more socially acceptable than others--better to be a drunk, a smoker, a gambler than --gasp!--fat.
 
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April 9, 2008, 4:23 pm PDT

What about fat?

When I met my husband, I was 18 and he 21. I was 125 pounds and he was 225 pounds. Well 12 years later and 3 children, I am now at 209 pounds and by the way I'm 5foot1. My husband is 6foot2 and now 298 pounds ( he has an 18 1/2 neck size). When we got married I had given birth to my eldest and was 160 pounds.Yes he would like me to lose some weight but it does not keep him from beeing affectionate and loving. I don't mind his figure. The only reason that sex is not very regular, is because I'm not in love with my body and don't like when the hole thing wiggles like jell-o. He never calls me names, I would not stand for it anyway. Are we not to be wed for better or worse? Loosing weight is a family affair. My father in law was 400 pounds. His wife changed her way of cooking and he lost 50. So no wife should complain if she is feeding him the food that's going in his mouth.
 
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April 9, 2008, 4:25 pm PDT

04/09 Fat Abusers

I just want to know: is there a line between being an abuser or just not wanting to be intimate with someone who has gained a lot of weight? Is it ever acceptable to say  sex is understandably unappealing?  Why should people be made to feel like ogres because their spouse has gained 50+ pounds and have become so different physically that they are not longer physically attractive to their partner?

 

I haven't had sex with my husband for probably 3 years and it's in good part due to his weight. Another big part of it is also his lack of hygeine. I do love my husband, but he has changed so much I no longer find him physically attractive.

 

Perhaps I'm a shallow person. I'm no beauty queen myself. A couple of times I have gained weight, and no, I would not expect my husband to be attracted to me if I were way overweight. I would understand. Like someone said, it's partially about physical attraction. There is a big physical difference between a fit 185lb man and an unfit, overweight one of 300lbs.

 

Sex with a large man is different. Sometimes hygeine is not as good. Perhaps it has to do with depression and not wanting to bother. Maybe it's just laziness. Who knows, but in any case, sex in those instances is not appealing. 

 

It's fine for Dr Phil to say, "everyone try to do better, have some respect" but what about when sex is repulsive? Are you resigned to a life of having sex with someone who makes you grit your teeth and hope it's over with soon, because your spouse is not attractive?

 

And yes, I understand people get older. Peoples' looks change. Aging is different from weight gain. Aging is a natural occurence, and doesn't have anything to do with your willpower, self-esteem, or interest in caring for your own personal health. A fit senior man is attractive. A fat one is more often not.

 

I watched as the heavy people nodded and agreed, "yeah I'll work at it" and I know full well that for the most part, they're probably just saying what everyone wants to hear, and probably will go back to their old ways as soon as they get home or soon thereafter. Wanting to try and really making an effort is two different things. Some people are blissfully ignorant or just plain uncaring about how they might be seen as being less than appealing. I was dismayed to find that no one seemed to have much sympathy for the people who had to deal with very overweight people.

 

I agree some of the stuff was abuse, but honestly, can you really blame them for not wanting sex? It's not all about just sex though; when you are fit and want to get out and do things, and your hubby can barely get off the couch and doesn't seem to care to change,  it doesn't make for much in the appeal department. Sex starts way before the bedroom.

 
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