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Created on : Friday, April 04, 2008, 02:11:21 pm
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(Original Air Date: 04/09/08) “Fat slob!” “Lardo!” “Lazy butt!” Obese people are often the target of ridicule, but can you imagine hearing this type of verbal abuse from your own spouse? Dr. Phil takes on fat abusers, people who intentionally belittle their husband or wife simply for being overweight. Roger says he was very clear when he told his wife, Linda, before they were married that he couldn’t stand fat people. Now 20 years later, Roger says Linda has gained 40 pounds and is about to lose him. He says sex with her is like “rolling around in a bowl of Jell-O” and is considering divorce if she doesn’t shed the pounds. Should Linda take his behavior as a wake-up call and end the marriage? Then, Alisa and Leon have been married for 28 years, but now that he tips the scales at 305 pounds, she calls him “Fat Butt.” She filed for divorce because she says she can’t stand looking at his stinky, flabby body. Their daughter, Amy, also puts Leon down and says he's the reason that she’s full-figured. Don't miss Dr. Phil's surprise for Leon! And, viewers were left speechless by Rick, who called his wife, Karen, a fat whore, fat pig and even the C-word. Has he changed his abusive ways? Join the discussion.

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April 10, 2008, 3:08 pm PDT

actually there are many people who are bulemic

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People don't get fat on AIR.  If you are fat, it is because something edible is going in your mouth and into your stomach.  Anorexic people don't eat.  Did you ever meet one who as fat?  You cannot say that you are not eating anything fattening, or eating small amounts, and you are still fat.  That doesn't mesh.  Your body doesn't "hoard it" if you are not eating it.  And to be fat, you gotta eat LOTS of it. 

that are over weight.  And for the anorexic  that started out over weight it's a long time starving prior to them looking unhealthy. 

 

And you're wrong the body does indeed "hoard fat" if it thinks it's starving.  Take it from a girl who was a very weight consious teen.  It was the "starving back in the teen years" that created the unhalthy metabolism for so many who are now unable to turn it around!  Ask any personal trainer or nutrisionist and they'll tell you just that!  This is why they'll put somone on a *healthy dietary intake plan) as they work off the weight.  because it turns the metabolism back around. 

 
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April 10, 2008, 3:16 pm PDT

04/09 Fat Abusers

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So what's your solution then? Fat people simply shouldn't eat? You need to eat food to live, that's different than an addiction. You don't need the drugs. Some people are genetically created to hold more fat than others, that's just the way things are. Even if they eat healthy, they still will hold fat.

 

Even if you put them on a diet, they will remain fat. Or their body will go into starvation mode, and think it needs to store more fat than before. That is why diets don't work.

Wow! I said nothing like that! You are taking a comment of mine and running wild with it.

Again my ONLY point is that matter cannot appear out of nowhere...fat is made of SOMETHING and it's not "genes"...fat is made of the food we eat.
 
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April 10, 2008, 3:17 pm PDT

04/09 Fat Abusers

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Or maybe they're not attracted to "healthy" people, aka people who are thin. Because they were allowed to be bullied by them in school, and be talked down to by them because they weren't "healthy"..I mean thin, like them.

 

Why would you want to associate with people who have proven to be cruel in the past?

again...wow! That wasn't even my topic of discussion in this post.  Seriously...what is the problem here? I was making a SIDE comment, off topic, to a particular person.
 
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April 10, 2008, 3:18 pm PDT

Julie have you seen Karen post here?

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The way I see it, the "change" was just too quick for me to believe that the issues were worked through in depth.  As the old saying goes "if it seems too good to be true it probably is". It seems to me that alot of hard hard work would be necessary to correct problems as severe as this couple has, and that   there is not going to be a miracle light bulb that goes on and reforms this husband swiftly, and perhaps he will not be reformed at all, even with loads of counseling. I continue to wish Karen and her kids the best of luck and would ask her to tread cautiously, and make her first priority  to protect her kids and herself physically, financially and emotionally.

she had been posting on the board from their first show but I haven't seen her here just him PO'd with me for telling her to protect herself etc.  It was kind of un-nerving to have her go so quiet and I thought perhaps she's been told she's not permitted to read or write here?  Have you seen any posts from her?  And it was about 3 weeks after the airing of the last show that Karen had said things had turned around so much that "it is like a dream".  It's very scary and I had hoped to try to make the point to her that even months from now this message board would still be here along with the last one so that if she neeeds to come back and retrive info so she can "get away" it's all sitting right here ie links etc. 

 

I just think it's really out there that she's not allowed her own paycheck.  he "doesn't give her an allowance".  this kills me. and what kind of couseler wouldn't point to this first to her and say "you need to be more in control so you *feel* in control"?   I don't think anything has changed except he's "held his tongue" and not lost his temper?   And yea I'm really shocked with Dr. Phil .  though he looked like he was looking to us here when he'd said that on tv the other day.  We've been telling her since the last show to *take back your finances and your power*. Why wait for an abuser to "give youan allownace"?  if she's too afraid to just take it then that too is all telling of the real situation. 

 
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April 10, 2008, 3:21 pm PDT

04/09 Fat Abusers

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My point is that overeating is not the only cause of extra weight, if that were the case, I would still weigh 103 lbs! My body takes the little fat it gets and hoards it. It's not because I eat too much of it. It's because I don't eat enough of ANYTHING.
"Over eating" No...but fat comes from food.  Your body has a low metabolism yes and you gain weight easily because your body isn't expending energy in the way other peoples bodies do, but the fat that is on your body is made out of the food you have eaten.
 
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April 10, 2008, 3:22 pm PDT

04/09 Fat Abusers

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 and as a gross obese person, I thank you.

I think you're being a bit hard on yourself.  I know that you're dealing with a lot of hurt from your past, but I don't think obese people are gross or worthless, but there's a reason they are the way they are.  Self talk is SO hard to control, I still struggle with mine on a daily basis.  Through talking to you, I can tell that youre an intelligent, pragmatic, interesting poster, and I can tell you love your family.  You have all those wonderful attributes that are worth more than just your weight. 

 

:)

I was being facetious.
 
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April 10, 2008, 3:39 pm PDT

"the apology" and it was not an "act"

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The way I see it, the "change" was just too quick for me to believe that the issues were worked through in depth.  As the old saying goes "if it seems too good to be true it probably is". It seems to me that alot of hard hard work would be necessary to correct problems as severe as this couple has, and that   there is not going to be a miracle light bulb that goes on and reforms this husband swiftly, and perhaps he will not be reformed at all, even with loads of counseling. I continue to wish Karen and her kids the best of luck and would ask her to tread cautiously, and make her first priority  to protect her kids and herself physically, financially and emotionally.
This is for the ones who think that Rick and I were not real on the show.  Everything you heard was correct.  The only apology I got from my husband was when reading the posts from the 1st show, and he never apologized to me in person until the 2nd show, which I was amazed.  When he started showing tears on the show, those were not made up, but only real.  Rick had turned over the bills to me and now I give him an allowance and so far, it is working out.  Rick has been really trying to improve on his attitude with me, affection, etc.  I didn't go on the show (just to say I was on tv), I truly went there for help and I am receiving that help in return.  Our therapist is great, and there has been a big turn-around.  I am giving my husband a second chance because I really do love him and pray that it all works out.  It was not a waste of time to go on the show, but for all of you who think I should still run, I believe in second chances and it would be absolutely ridiculous for me to leave now (after going through all of this trouble).  If it doesn't work out with us, we both agreed to go our separate ways.  Rick has not completely changed.... it takes time - and that I am giving him.  I will continue to read all of these posts each and every day.  Thanks for all your support.  ~~Karen~~
 
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April 10, 2008, 3:42 pm PDT

04/09 Fat Abusers

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I'm sorry but I think you're confused.  Unless you know what that girls habits are and what she is eating you can't just say "this is genetic for her" I'm not saying it isn't genetic or even partly genetic. I understand the idea behind what you're saying but the fact is that for many people over weight they are taking in a lot of calories.  Now why they're doing it is another kettle of fish & I don't thik one needs to become "anorexic" to become healthy.   That daughter being over weight is not healthy period. While I don't disagree that it could be a genetic thing that makes her body hold onto calories more than say the next person and I understand that the "calories-in calories-out" isn't the entire answer but to say that suggesting she lose weight is making her adhear to a thin anorexic life is ridiculas.  Is there no medium for you? 

 

 

For me sitting here I know that the meds I'm on for High Blood pressure are the root to my weight gainof 30 lbs.  To throw my hands up and say "well it's because of these meds and there's nothing I can do about it" instead of me working like a dog at the gym and watching everything that goes into my mouth could mean a year from now I'd be 130 lbs heavier.  It's true it isn't just a matter of me "over eating" that's created it and no matter how hard I work I'm not going to loose a significant anount of weight while I continue on these meds but until there's a better way to keep me from having a stroke without them I'm kind of stuck right?  HOWEVER if I continue to gain weight & I don't go to the gym & I don't watch every morsel that goes in my mouth pill or no pill my BP is going to continue to rise and the heavier I get the worse my health and I can say that from *experience*.    Now let me make clear that prior to by meds for bp I was not an "over weight" person but considered a "hot curvasious" petite in high and with the "vanity 5 to 10 lbs" that creeps on after child birth and with age.   I was always active etc. and when the weight gain started I wasn't doing anything different in eating or exercise.  As the weight gain started I actually started exercising MORE & was walking 2 miles a day and still gaining!  There's a web site that lets one keep a exercise and carolic intake journal and I used it religiously and that was how I was able to make my Dr. see I was not "just sitting around"

 

We have no idea of knowing what's happening with that young woman that's the reasoning behind her weight and you can't simply say "it's genetic" that's ridiculas.   And there's no way she can say for her father "he was just lazy"  this was coming from a kid who had nothing of a view but her mother who was verbally abusive of him.   We have no way of knowing what their issues are or why there is their weight gain. 

I just want to add that Dr. Phil was correct when he said that genetics can make a person PREDISPOSED to being obese or overweight, it doesn't CAUSE it.

The cause of excess fat on the human body is one thing and one thing ONLY. More calories are being consumed than are being used.

The REASONS for this are many. Slow metabolism. Food addiction. Emotional issues. And genetics can make gaining that fat a lot easier for some people than others. However, having a "fat gene" doesn't mean a person WILL be fat. It just means it might take a bit more diligence in watching calories and exercising and dealing with emotional issues that cause a person to eat more.
 
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April 10, 2008, 4:07 pm PDT

change takes time

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This is for the ones who think that Rick and I were not real on the show.  Everything you heard was correct.  The only apology I got from my husband was when reading the posts from the 1st show, and he never apologized to me in person until the 2nd show, which I was amazed.  When he started showing tears on the show, those were not made up, but only real.  Rick had turned over the bills to me and now I give him an allowance and so far, it is working out.  Rick has been really trying to improve on his attitude with me, affection, etc.  I didn't go on the show (just to say I was on tv), I truly went there for help and I am receiving that help in return.  Our therapist is great, and there has been a big turn-around.  I am giving my husband a second chance because I really do love him and pray that it all works out.  It was not a waste of time to go on the show, but for all of you who think I should still run, I believe in second chances and it would be absolutely ridiculous for me to leave now (after going through all of this trouble).  If it doesn't work out with us, we both agreed to go our separate ways.  Rick has not completely changed.... it takes time - and that I am giving him.  I will continue to read all of these posts each and every day.  Thanks for all your support.  Karen
Karen, this was my point in my previous post.  Change takes time.  And time will tell how things will work out for you.  What I would be suspicious of is an instantaneous change because I don't think that the knowledge comes in a lightbulb moment, but over time when people have the chance to delve deeply into things.  Again, I wish you the best.
 
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April 10, 2008, 4:08 pm PDT

I understand what you're saying...

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"Over eating" No...but fat comes from food.  Your body has a low metabolism yes and you gain weight easily because your body isn't expending energy in the way other peoples bodies do, but the fat that is on your body is made out of the food you have eaten.
Believe it or not, I do get what you're saying. I know the fat that I have on my body comes from my dinner every night. The point I was trying to make is that I'm not eating TOO MUCH of it, I'm not eating enough of it so my body is storing it. The way my doctor put it was that my body doesn't know when or how much it's going to get so it hangs on to everything it can. I'm not saying that fat comes from thin air. I do eat and I know that's where it comes from but I can't NOT EAT AT ALL, right? The food I do eat is considerably healthy. Like I said, my husband and my children eat the same exact thing and they're skin and bones! But they also eat breakfast, lunch and snacks. I do not eat any of that. I never snack, I never eat breakfast, if I do eat lunch, I end up not eating dinner (mostly because it means I just woke up and I'm drinking coffee and I cannot eat anything while I'm drinking coffee!
 
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