Topic : 04/10 Marriage Dilemmas

That was a sweet story...and healthy people in the same situation take it for granted that they'll be around to be good parents to their children.  I'm glad they modeled a loving relationship because they only have one chance to be good parents, maybe getting sick and thinking about not being around for their son brought them closer.   The guests on the show should ask themselves, if I die tomorrow or get sick, will my child remember all the fighting, or that Mom and Dad treated each other well?

Dont Worry Be HAPPY

Shawne --

In a way, I undertand your situation.

I know a woman who married (some 30 years) ago in an attempt to "straighten herself out."

The marriage lasted a decade, but in the meantime she had three kids and only succeeded in making herself, her husbanc and her kids miserable.

I hope that one of the outcomes of societal acceptance of gays is that nobody will get into a life, and bring others into a life, that they don't want.

Best,

Marian

PS -- I have nothing to say about people who talk about praying oneself straight and out of sin. We have them here too, and have learned that even on smaller issues, there is no point arguing with someone who thinks their knowledge comes from their God.

I was married for 19 years and I found out that the man I married was living a homosexual lifestyle.  He had been living this lifestyle before we got married.  What hurt so deeply was that he deceived me and lied to me for so long.  More than what it did to me it hurt our 16 yr old son.  We have been divorced for 3 years, eventhough my son and I have both suffered, I think my son is the one who has suffered the most.  I am glad to see that Shawn and her husband are putting thier daughters feelings first in this situation.  This is something that has made it hard for me to trust anyone.

If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination.  They shall surely be put to death.  Their blood shall be upon them.  Leviticus 20:13

And yet people wonder why men lie and do these things.

that one bible verse is your answer to why your husband lied.  maybe we as a people should accpect people for who they are not what they are.  Maybe some understanding is what is needed and less judgeing and less baseing beliefs on one bible verse.

I am sorry for your son, I don't know if you raised him to believe the verse you quoted but if you did maybe you should have raised him to be more open minded and also look at the time you got married and if being gay is ok. 

I haven't seen the show I am baseing my comment on the one above.

I'm not saying that gay men are bad people.  I do believe that homosexuality is wrong and I'm not just basing it on one verse in the Bible.  I believe the Bible in it's entirety and throughout the Bible is says that homosexuality is wrong.  His lying and deceitfulness was wrong and I said that.  Whether they are accepted or not they shouldn't lie about their homosexuality and bring innocent people into their deception.

In the case of Shawne and Randall: Shawne is NOT a victim...she says this. She knew Randall was gay before they married so she can't whine now. A person is what they are and I believe that you are born that way. My objection is in bringing children into this sham of a marriage so that they wind up paying the price for your poor choice in marrying a gay person, knowing that person can't change.

Regarding homosexuality itself and the verses in the Bible: here's my question: God does NOT make mistakes! Therefore, if you are born gay, and God doesn't make mistakes, how can you be damned for being what you were born to be?? To me, that's like damning someone for being born with a birth defect. (and, no, I'm NOT equating being gay with a birth defect...it is just an example.)

I also have a serious problem with gay people lying so they can marry straight people to hide behind, and then having kids whose lives will be torn up on down the road when the person finally comes out! It is one of the most selfish things they can do!

I keep saying this: know someone BEFORE you take that long walk down the aisle! There's a good article on www.grammytree.blogspot.com called "Before You Say I Do" in the Feb posts.

Natalie and Robert: Wow! How can a man expect his wife to have any respect for him when he acts like a rebellious, lazy teenager who wants to play all day? He needs a J.O.B.! It's amazing how people want to demand respect, but haven't a clue about how to earn it.

I wonder what he will do when his inheritance is all gone.

Who knows...he may succeed in getting his book published...I'm all for following your passion...but, meanwhile, he needs to stay rooted in reality and bring some income into the home! You CAN do both!

I also am a writer and have had things published. I'm an artist and a photographer who has sold many of my pieces. I've driven race cars and have done lots of fun things.....all the while raising three kids alone, and often working THREE jobs at the same time. Tired? Oh yeah...but these things invigorated me and I always found time for them. It's a matter of prioritizing.