Topic : 04/11 Women Beware!

And I've been out of the loop for 30 years now, so I couldn't tell you what is normal either.  I guess "normal" is whatever is comfortable for the people involved, but it may be hard for some to establish that comfort level in the beginnning.  I'm glad not to be a part of that scene.

I've experienced being both a  SAHM and working Mom.  Each has it's advantages and disadvantages.

I think, at the beginning of a dating relationship, the inviter should pay. Regardless of gender. But, the invitee shouldn't order the most expensive item on the menu. And, shouldn't waste their food, either. If there's one thing I can't stand, it's someone who wastes food. The last time my husband took "Sammy" and his family out to eat with us, at an all-you-can-eat place, "Sammy" would pile his plate sky-high, eat a few bites, and shove the plate away for the server to take. He did the same damn thing with three more plates of food. In that one visit, he wasted more food than I would've eaten in at least five. My husband said that was the last time he'd take "Sammy" anywhere but a fast-food place.

 I thinnk ALL of the guys on this show were just CREEPY!!!!!!! I find guys who are akwardly themselves to be so much more attractive and genuine than some superficial idiot who has been TRAINED in how to score women. YUCK!!!! Also these guys teach guys how to pick up women in some random place. WHo the hell wants to seriously date someone you picked up in a bar?

I finally signed on to the message board and read this, I want to tell you that you are a woman of "Class". That's exactly what it is and I admire you for your insight. I wish that other women, not all, but some, would realize that this is not the way to treat a man. Also, men should not treat us like meat either. It goes both way. Take care, Jewels

Thank you for that nice compliment! I do appreciate it. And I agree with you that both men and women should exercise mutual respect for eachother.; ie. treating eachother well. Have a great day!  Julie

I read a few posts and I'm getting the idea that some of you have the wrong idea of what Mystery Method or another seduction school is about.

First of all I see people generalize with sentences like:"Men think only about sex" or "Women only want money from men"

In my opinion generalisations are not true, because not every woman wants money and not every man only thinks about sex. These are small groups, called: golddiggers and male sex addicts.

The reason why I got into the seduction community was because I couldn't get a girlfriend and I wanted a girlfriend (was 16 back then). It wasn't because I wanted to exploit women, I just wanted a girlfriend and I just didn't understand why I didn't had one.

Now I do understand it (2 years later). I had 2 shortterm relationships and well I've gotten results just like an average teenager. If I didn't came into the seduction community and learned a bit about social skills and stuff I probably would've been depressed about why life would be so mean to me, which sounds sad and naïve.

I didn't followed MysteryMethod though, there is a lot of diversity in the seduction schools and I'm all for improv and non-structure and thats a bit of the irony why I have less results, but I don't care, it's more fun this way to talk with people.

I've learned so much from the seduction community, but some of you still (might) think that I'm exploiting women in some sort of way. The methods itsself aren't 'dark' it's what someone does with it.

By the way here is a list what I've learned trough the seduction community:
- Positive Psychology (from Tal-Ben Shahar as professor on Harvard, trough stream videos)
- How I can develop myself as a whole person on different areas of my life (meaning: every hobby, spiritually, socially, love, etc.)
- How to be 'my better self' without the vague words
- How to keep my integrity (I improvise when I talk to women and sometimes I think they're cute)
- How to be more emotionally intelligent
- I do more sporting
- I did and tried meditation

To make my point, it's the nature of the person himself who goes to the community, it will change him for the better, or the worse, it depends on his nature.

Second of all:
Mystery Method and Speedseduction are the more controversial and 'outdated' methods in the seduction community. A better method is: www.socialhitchhiker.blogspot.com, he learned me how to relate to women, thinking more in emotions and less in factual things.

But the only method that I lay my soul upon is just improvising and having fun.

Yea I sure do exploit women.

Stop with the generalizations.

Melvin (Amsterdam, The Netherlands)

If someone wants to learn about the community or wants to resume the discussion email me at 00melo00@gmail.com

Mystery teaches students how become a more attractive male and gives them tools to break the ice. (eg. jealous girlfriend opener) yes, the vast majority of students who use this line have never had this exerience. many have never HAD a GIRLFRIEND, the exact reason they take these lessons. if you are reading this go to youtube.com and search for "vh1's pickup artist" is wa a reality tv show that showed the tranformation of several average joes who were completely awkard with women to by the final episode the particapants were charismatic men who grabbed attention when they walked into a room. had they changed their personalities? no. they became more comfortable and confident with themselves which let them show off their best traits. (all women agree confidence is attractive) then once they had coupled that with techniques such as push pull and negging they were FINALLY foud attractive. (just try to picture how it would feel to go from never having a date in your entire life to having a fighting chance with the most beautiful, fun girl in the room. who wouldn't love that?)

now for ross jeffries. "speed seduction" = evil. the whole point of "anchoring" (whether he admits it or not) is to have a girl feel those same emotions whnever he touches that glass etc. now he literally controls her emotions. that is purely WRONG. the majority of womenizers use his techniques whereas man like mystery eventual meet the "perfect girl" and eventually marry her. (i did)

when you seduce someone you only want them for sex.
attract is to draw people to you. and win friends and lovers
seduce (verb)
1. to lead astray, as from duty, rectitude, or the like; corrupt. 2. to persuade or induce to have sexual intercourse. 3. to lead or draw away, as from principles, faith, or allegiance: He was seduced by the prospect of gain.   
attract (verb)
1. to draw by a physical force causing or tending to cause to approach, adhere, or unite; pull (opposed to repel): The gravitational force of the earth attracts smaller bodies to it. 2. to draw by appealing to the emotions or senses, by stimulating interest, or by exciting admiration; allure; invite: to attract attention; to attract admirers by one's charm. 3.to possess or exert the power of attraction.
* definitions form dictionary.com

see the difference?

mystery teaching the art of attraction and jeffries taught (he is no a has been) the sins of seduction. good men attract womenizers seduce.