Topic : 04/11 Women Beware!

Men are genetically conditioned to pursue women to foster the advance of the species.,    Women are programmed to receive the advances of men.  It's nothing new.  It's being going on since the beginning of mankind.  It is the natural order.  It makes no difference how man achieves his purpose (except rape , which probably doesnt didn''t hold true in prehistoric times)

Women know exactly what they agree to do.  Dr. Phil's very good looking bleached blondes were never asked if they were on birth control pills.  Wanna make a bet on that.  Sure they were and the yent to bars searching for sex.  The only condition was - if he turns me on..  In the end to it all, all a woman has to say its No"  No matter how smoothe and sexy the come on is.  It is ultimately up to the woman..  It doesn't make any difference whether he has or has not taken "seduction courses."  The woman always and always has had the ultimate control - "NO."

Holy crap! Are you from this planet and in this century??

Your post that responded to the woman of color was so beyond ignorant I couldn't even believe it was real.

I happen to be blonde, blue-eyed and Caucasian but I can't help but feel embarrassed for your blind ignorance!

First and foremost, lets get the facts straight.   Mystery, who's name is Erik, was NOT on this show.  The Mystery Method is Eriks stuff, stolen by these Frauds that were on the show.   Eriks company is called Venusian Arts.  (arts of Love).  These guys on the show have been sued by Eriks company, as they Erik has his company stolen out from under him in my opinion and apparently soon the courts opinion. in a case that will soon settle., Eriks book, called,
" the mystery method" written by Chris Odom and Mystery, isthe original work on meeting women.  It followed The Game, written by Neal Strauss, which came out in 2005.

I have met Mystery, Matador, and several other guys in the "pick up" community.  I have taken their seminars, been to their bootcamps . been out with them personally.

In these programs I have spoken to many men, from age 21 to 58, all of whom wanted to learn how to date and meet women.  I can tell you from first hand knowledge, MOST of them just want a girlfriend and or wife, and have not had much luck with meeting women either because they have not dated in years ( recently divorced) or have no idea how to meet and talk to women.

Women go out in groups, 90% of the time.  In my experience, many many women reject a mans approach "automatically".  The average woman has been approached hundreds and some thousands of times...and your 800 and one.  How are you going to be any different.

The truth is that meeting women is intimidating for most guys, especially when they have to approach 3 or 4 women at once to meet one they like, with 3 other women judging the guy, and of course, the woman he is trying to meet, knowing that her 3 friends are judging this guy as well.  PRESSURE.  YOu bet.

Im over 40, was in a relationship for years, now I am back to dating.  Its challenging, with what  I learned from Venusian Arts, much easier and I have had much more success in actually having a normal conversation and getting past all the social veneer that goes on.  Actually, being real. 

This has not lead to multiple sexual encounters, but rather, multiple women I have gone out with and seen who is out there and what they are like. 

This whole "women beware" sounds great for a tv show, but in real life, I can tell you that many people are very lonely, do not go out, and are afraid of dating, both men and women.   What Mystery and Matador teach is about making a woman comfortable, understanding thier needs and wants, and how to get past the uncomfortableness of approaching, dating, starting a relationship. etc etc.

While the show tells women to watch out, I have met several women who have told me and my friends that they have never been treated better.  All that has gone on here is Mystery is teaching what women want by actual demonstration, survey, asking them ,and trying things out.   And I can tell you, the truth is they want the same thing as men, love, happiness, good sex, trust, companionship, and so on.  And sometimes, ya, they just want to have some good sex. 

I've seen some very happy couples as the result of "pick up" with guys who would have never met their girlfriends otherwise, and women who would have never given them the time of day, had they not learned the communication skills, the approach skills, and the arts of love. 

So lighten up, because none of us would be here without some form of pick up that lead to our creation.  This is NOT something new. 

I have to express this:

                     I was disgusted by these men who came on the show today to promate their so called how to BLANK a women scene.  I thought  they were shallow and really deep seatedly insecure to feel that they have to program themselves to approach women.  This isnt treating women like they are a person. It's making them subjects!  The rationale I heard from these men was too stupid. Oh, no  we arent doing that.  ya ya ya... What a waist of air space.  In particular the gentleman who claimed he had a handle on his mental sugestion techniques.  Oh, brother!  Creeps are the only ones who function like this in a relationship. It "is" manipulation!!!! and I believe it's a form of control.  I dont know how Dr. Phil managed to sit there and listen to their nonsense.  He's lucky I wasnt on the stage because I would have nailed these gents but good.  Verbally that is, since they think that they are so good at what they do,  no women could "ever" take them for a ride.  ha!                                    

First of all I have not read any of the websites from the men who were on today, but some of these techniques might work for married women. LOL!

As for the rest of the single women out there, these men were on the right track, but need a little women guidance. I like the way that Dr. Phil brought in the 3 women they worked their "charm" on... because at first they were okay with it, but as they heard that the main point is to get women into bed, they became disgusted! We are treated like pieces of meat by sooooo many men when we are dating, all they want is to get into our pants and then leave us there distraught and longing for true love once again.

Yes, we think about sex, but it's been proven men think about it WAY more! We want to be romanced not manipulated! There are the "Sex in the City" women out there, who prefer to treat men as they treat us! However, that is not who these men are targeting. As far as I know, that kind of women doesn't need the fancy tricks to get her into bed. She is looking for that man, for that night, and Joe Shmoe with his fancy classes isn't going to be the reason she goes home with him.

As for the rest of the women looking for romance and love and commitment; and yes I have been told I seem to be unapproachable by my husband’s friends and how do you talk to a women like you. I respond with a smile and a "You're so cute! I always liked a guy who could make me laugh!" It's about the approach, but if we find out later that's been altered and a lie we will feel betrayed and wonder if it was EVER the real you? We’ve all seen that chic flick.

I've thought of this idea before while looking at a women’s mag. that says "How to get and keep a man" and it was the same idea as what the men on the show had, only it had training on how to ROMANCE a women NOT manipulate her. Maybe a class or two on tact and how to approach the women you want using YOUR personality, not a made up story and put downs. It needs to be run by men AND WOMEN who are married or in a serious relationship! Then it could be tested on unsuspecting singles, but with the intent they just want her number and ONLY by men who want a real relationship not just a one night stand! (As you can see I don't have all the bugs worked out yet, but it's a good start.) 

Tell me that you don't know it is very wrong to make a blanket statement about women of color only liking men of color?  No.  That is not the truth.  I am a women of color and my husband is white.  My girlfriends and boyfriends are in relationships with differing people.  In fact, it is very rare to see the same ethnicities together anymore.  By the way.  I have never, not once, been unable to date anyone I wanted to.  No competition for me back in the day, before marriage.