Topic : 04/14 The Dr. Phil House: House of Greed

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You've heard the sayings, "Money can't buy happiness," and "Money is the root of all evil," and the newest family to move into The Dr. Phil House lives up to both of these adages! They’re engaged in a vicious war of finger-pointing and accusations over money, land and Mom's will. One daughter is slated to inherit everything while the other won’t get one red cent. How did a piece of land two family members purchased together become a royal battle ground? Family therapist Dr. Tara Fields, brings this family face to face for an emotional encounter. But will they participate? When sisters Lisa and Sara face off, who calls whom lazy and worthless, and will the siblings decide to put their grievances aside? Then, Dr. Phil makes a house call. Why is he fed up with this family? And, when Sonja's granddaughter makes a surprise visit with an emotional plea, you won't believe how Sonja responds. Can Dr. Phil get this family to focus on reuniting instead of dividing their land? Talk about the show here.

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April 14, 2008, 1:18 pm PDT

so sorry for your pain

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     I know how devestating it can be to lose your your family legacy and "willed" possessions to a sibling who want give up personal and owned possessions of the deceased parent.  In my case, my mother named my baby sister as "Executor" of her will, there were 4 other older children. We all played a very important part of our mothers life. We visited weekly and drove her to do her shopping and for doctor visits. We have weekly family dinners and birthday get togethers every other month. We all really loved one another and were always there for each other to lend a helping hand. When our mother passed, our baby sister, who immediately claimed our mothers (basement) apartment as off limits to the rest of her siblings, she even called the police to have us removed when we visited her one day to work on moms business and belongins. She wanted no help from any of us to move things along concerning the Will.  She would not probate the Willm she would not settle anything our mom had requested in her Will. She took us to court to make us pay back to the estate, the value of 4 cemetary plots our Mom had wanted us to have. The plots were next to and around her resting place. Our younger sister will not communicate with us and has kept everything our mom had wanted divided up and wanted us to have. And, to make it worse, our younger sister knew of our moms verbal wishes as well and the written ones. She has completely distant herself from any association with the rest of the family. We have tried to communicate with her but she refuses to talk about this issue with us. We are so hurt and have had to get use to the fact that our moms legacy and life, with pictures and personal items, will never be in our lives again. It is destroying us mentally and so unfair to our children and grandchildren.
This is so sad and even more sad that your Mother didn't recognize that she needed to appoint  a more responsible Executor or Co-Executor and do the right thing.  I would certainly encourage you and your sisters to see an attorney if the will was not carried out as written.  You should not allow your sister to get by with this as there are consequences for this type illegal behavior.  I thank God my sister carried out my Mom's wishes; I was the youngest and lived far away and it was not feasible for me to be the Executor anyway.  Sounds as though you have a very selfish, conniving baby sister.
 
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April 14, 2008, 1:20 pm PDT

04/14 The Dr. Phil House: House of Greed

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If I was the older daughter, I would cut all ties w/ my evil manipulative mother and move! It's just not worth the energy! The mother IS not gonna change at this point. She's made her mind up and she's sticking to it! That woman made me sick to my stomach. I don't even believe she even LOVES her daughter. And, for the granddaughter, bless her heart. People can sense/ feel

 when they ARE not wanted. It's really sad :(

I cant believe you are acting like the older daughter is innocent why is she so preoccupied with her mothers will then? she should be a big girl and say well fine if thats the way you want it them thats the way you get it and get over it. you must have blinders on and not saw the whole picture
 
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April 14, 2008, 1:23 pm PDT

House of Greed

 

I just watched the show today....I have to say it has me upset....I am in a mess also....I have 2 sisters...

Our mother died 3 yrs ago...Left behind about 600,000. worth of house and land.....Should have been egually divided, as per the copy of her will stated with me as trustee.....But the orginal signed one was lets say throwed away.....So by the courts and all baby sister ended up with more then us....But she will live with that one.....It should have been egual....I have 3 kids and I try my best to treat them all the same.....

I hope the house works it out......

 
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April 14, 2008, 1:26 pm PDT

Its only money

 My mother used the fact she had money to control me and my siblings but after many years of her wanting to be the center of everyone's life, I walked away.  I have not spoken to her in over a year and I am much happier for it.  I was there to help take care of my dad and until the day he died I was the only child who was there when ever she needed a break.  Even after he died I was there to make sure she was okay. He told her he wanted everything left to me but after being treated like a slave and the one person who was suppose to jump every time she needed something. I walked away...I don't need to take the abuse or the money.  After several hateful emails from my mother I finally came to a good conclusion.

She can keep her money cuz she is going to need it to pay for her nursing home.  She better be nice to my siblings cuz they are the ones who will be picking out her nursing home.
 
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April 14, 2008, 1:28 pm PDT

agree

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I think Sonja is the most horrible, disgusting human being I have ever seen on the Dr. Phil show. She does not deserve to be a mother.  When she made sarcastic remarks about her oldest daughter coming to the hospital unannounced to see her new baby sister I was apalled!  What mother would not want nor welcome her 1st born child to meet her sibling?  Sonja is a terrible, horrible person!
i agree with you all the way!!! she is sooo evil, she reminds me of my "mother" have a good day!!
 
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April 14, 2008, 1:30 pm PDT

the will

One BIG question-   why do these two daughters even KNOW about their Mom's will???  It must be that this mother let them know, and obviously has pitted these girls against each other.  Wow- this woman is a sicko.  But, the older daughter, Lisa, should NOT be worrying about what she'll get when Mom is dead.  That is very disturbing.  This is a matter to be taken up when the mother DIES, not now!  Really sick and dysfunctional.
 
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April 14, 2008, 1:32 pm PDT

Duhh,

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I can relate to your show coming up on Monday! I am in a second marriage, my husband has earned a lot of money over the years, he is now an alzheimer patient in a home. He has 4 children from his first marriage. He is 81 years old, I am 58 years old. Him and I had a great relationship except for his children.

 

After being married to him for a couple years I figured out why there was tension with his children while they came home for their once a year week visit with daddy! They did not want me there! They did everything in their power to destroy our relationship. When he became to ill for me to care for him any more, I placed him in a home. The greed really came out then. Over the years before I came along, he bought all four of his children 2 homes each @ $150,000, any time they needed money they called daddy, he bought all of them new cars when they needed them. The grandchildren also! None of these four children have jobs. I am his wife and I will no longer hand out money! Bank is closed. My husband earned this money and he deserves the best care that can be provided. These children have slammed doors in my face, accused me of things I have not done, extremely rude to me. I have never seen such awful children. I am in charge now!  Now they except me to be kind to them after all they have done to me! I don't think so. I have 2 married children of my own, they all have jobs and never asked me for money. They respect me and my husband!

 

I said to my husband a few times over the years would you please stand up for me? He cannot stand up to his kids, He told me it was just my imagination! All I asked for from his children were respect as a person. I have chosen to control my own life, I am a college student almost to the end of my degree as a therapist, I am not quiting until I earn my degree. The only way I could progress through this situation was to attend therapy every week. I will live my life and continue caring for my husband. Money is the root of all evil and it does not buy health. I know the day he passes on his children will have me in a court room.

Of course they didn"t want you there!  You"re 30 years younger than him!!  You said one key thing:  "I am in charge now!".  If you"re going around with that attitude, I hope they recover ALL their dad"s money from you.  You earn respect, you don't expect respect.  By taking care of their father, you'll earn that.  But you need to adjust your attitude.

My dad's woman, whom I didn't meet until I was 20, is doing this to me.  My child was diagnosed with autism, and she's holding the purse strings in some sort of stupid power struggle to show me and him who's "boss" (never mind she's never worked).  All the while, I need to get my son into early treatment.  Now.  My mom is just as bad.  She drove my step-sister to the point that she tried to kill herself to escape my mother's physical and psychological abuse.  She's holding our half-sister as hostage just like the witch in the story.

I'm so sick of these selfish step-women!   If you want to be a horrible B, you should go work in a crowded office of mostly women, that way no children have to be caught up in it.  There's a reason fairtales potray step-mothers the way they do.  They are the anti-thesis to what a mother is.
 
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April 14, 2008, 1:34 pm PDT

04/14 The Dr. Phil House: House of Greed

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HA HA HA... just love your Ikea Cat ... that is too cute.....some assembly required indeed  ha ha ha

 

HMMMMM I wonder if the cat's  kittens plan to fight for the box she came in LOL

 

Makes about as much sense as these people fighting over items of little lasting value

 

 

 YUP, silly isn't it.
Cripes, petition the courts, divide the land put in your own driveway, and for heaven's sake leave the fence.
Seemed to me Sarah (the younger girl, she looked to be only 18 or 19) seemed to have the most common sense of the lot, and seemed to be the only one that KNEW the real reason they were there.
 
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April 14, 2008, 1:35 pm PDT

More to this story

Personally I think there's more to this story than just dirt or land.  It's going to be very interesting to see what happens next week and who actually breaks down first.  Someone is going to have to be the bigger person and give in first.  I think the mother should cave in first.  She's too up there on her "pedistal" if you ask me.  I watched the show and she couldn't even get off her duff and go hug her own grandchild after dr. phil brought her into the room.  Now, come on!!!!  To mend this family somebody is going to have to be the first to get up and genuinely apologize and I mean genuine.  Besides why, unless she wanted to hurt her daughter, would the mother even tell everyone what was in her will in the first place.  A will is supposed to be your own wishes.  It doesn't have to be fair.  But then you don't runaround bragging about what's in it .  If when Dr. Phil came in the room and dumped that dirt in the middle of the floor doesn't tell them something, then I don't know what will.  That mother would rather be RIGHT than HAPPY.

 

 

 

 

 
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April 14, 2008, 1:40 pm PDT

I understand where you're coming from but don't totally agree

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I can kind of relate to today's show in a way.  I don't think Sonja's way of handling the situation is right but I also believe that all the older daughter is interested in is the the mom's money.  I mean really?  Why would you even want to talk about your mom's will before she's dead?  It's like your sitting and waiting to see how much you'll get.......that's sad.  I want my parents to live forever and don't even want to think about their will.  If I'm having to think about their will, then that means they're not here!!!  HELLLLOOOO!  I've had this same conversation with my sister in law, (my brother's wife) keep in mind, she married into my family.  She has been to my parents home before and said right in front of me, my brother and my parents that she wanted this or that left to her in their will.  It was antique furniture or something of that nature that she had always admired.  It was all I could do not to slap the dust out of her right then and there.  How dare she even entertain the thought of my parents being dead and what she's going to get.  That thought had never entered my mind!!  Now my brother is starting to act just like his wife.  I love them both to death but I won't hear talk about a will or anything else that has to do with 'after my parents are dead'.  What they have is theirs (my parents) and they need to live life to the fullest while they're here and not care what they are going to leave anyone.  My brother even gets mad if my dad sells a piece of land!  Because in his mind, that's less he'll be getting one day when they're dead.  OMG!  I told my mom and dad to sell it all and live it up and never worry about leaving me anything because they owe me nothing.  If anything, I'll owe them the rest of my life and could never repay them.  I can see the same thing happening to my family.  My dad is a stubborn person that is always right and does things his way, and I got a feeling he would do the same thing to my brother that Sonja did to Lisa.  Honestly, I think Lisa is alot like my brother, (and his wife) she can't stop talking about 'the will", I know Dr. Phil mentioned how much they talked about 'the fence' but 'the fence' wouldn't be there if it weren't for 'the will'.  It doesn't sound like Lisa is interested in her relationship with her mom nor her sister, it's all about what she's going to get in 'the will'.  Lisa made the statement that she wants what she's entitled to.  Guess what?  She's not entitled to a dang thing!  That's just it, she's so greedy she can't see past her nose.  That's her mom's money, land etc. and it's completely up to her what she does with it.  That might be wrong on the mom's part but it's her money and her choice.  Not Lisa's.  The younger sister seemed to have the most sense of any of them and she's a teenager for crying out loud!  What does that say about the family??? Did they ever say who mentioned the will first?  I don't remember hearing how it all got started.  I remember hearing listen mention buying land in conjunction w/her mom but I never knew if the mom or Lisa mentioned 'the will' first.  If someone knows, please let me know.  Thanks!

 

It was actually Sonja that kept mentioning "the will" and I think every time she says "I'm not leaving anything to you your sister is getting it all" it's the mothers way of saying "your sister is the favorite, she's loved more, she's better than you  and we're cutting you from the family"  I think the will is used as a symbol of this mother cutting her oldest daught from her life.  I think this mother had a lot of issues and when her daughter was talking about how she created a rift between her and her 1/2 sister was very telling.   The daughter (is her name Lisa?)  she had commented that her mother didn't want her at the hospital when her 1/2 sister was born and that she was hurt.  and the mother Sonja off camera said "well she never even called to say she was coming what did she think we were going to do?"  and I thought "what the hell?"  If I went to the hospital to see someones new baby I don't think I'd be calling first I'd be going during visiting hours when visitors are expected & I'd think that WHOEVER I'm going to see would be excited about their new baby and to share that with me".  Sonja said her daughter showed up unannounced and "What did she thing we were going to do?"  I'm sorry but it just seemed out there and unreasonable.    I think these were things that caused pain long ago and it sounded like the daughter had tried to let the things go even though they *hurt her*.  Forgiving a loved one is easy but forgetting is a different thing and I think the example of the hospital is an example of what Lisa is trying to say about the mother driving a wedge between her & her sister. 

 

That said I think Lisa has allowed the pain caused by her mother to in a lot of ways take it out on her sister.  It really isn't her sisters fault that her mother does the things she's done.  Even if she has been spoiled then that's just the way she was raised.  If her mother had a preference of her younger daughter or showed favortism of the younger daughter and that caused her older daughter pain that is still not her 1/2 sisters fault.  Calling her sister a "spoiled brat' etc. is just going to create more hard feelings.  And frankly as much as the younger daughter has been "spoiled" if she had been her mother has denied this younger daughter a close relationship with her older sistr because of the frictions she creates between them.  While Lisa is a daughter too she's certainly no child!!!!  I think at this point she should be able to figure this part out and in some ways it's something she and her 1/2 sister have in common and that is the dysfunction their mother has created in both of their lives!  This young woman has no control over her mother and what her mother does.   That she names the younger daughter the sole person in her will is something meant to hurt her older daughter but the younger daughter can't make her stop that. 

 

I think the point of the grand daughter being hurt by not being named in the will is another misunderstood point.  The girl said she didn't care what is left to her but that she wanted something from her grand mother.    Again I think the being named in a will is something that's been made a symbol of "I love you & you're accepted" by the grand mother and so even the grand daughter is looking for something that says I love you by grandma.  I DO understand this and the idea of something specific from a person that has personal meaning.  I personally have a "thing for clocks" and my mother has a clock that belonged to my father who is passed and so I'd never just say to her "I want daddy's clock" but as something to remember him by that is something that would have special meaning to me.  It's not the monetary gain. 

 

The original idea of "I'm bequething all my worldly goods to _______________ because they were such a wonderful person and good to me" has gotten confused by people greedy for the out come of "all those worldly goods".   And so when the person is there waiting to hear "because you meant so much to me" as the reason their in the will and they hear instead "I'm cutting you from  my will" it's a symbol of "you're don't mean anything to me."  It's like a cutting from ones life.

 

The land that belongs to the mother?  I thought they purchased the land together and that was the original reason for the arguement because they needed to divide the lot and the mother put up the huge fence without any entrance even for emergency vehicles if they're needed. 

 

The thing I didn't understand from the daugher Lisa is her vandalizing her mothers house with TP and flour and such.  that was out there I thought, but then I don't think that emotional intellect is something that was demonstrated for Lisa during her life.  She is after all her mothers daughter.  :)  they say it's those that are the same that don't get along.  :)

 

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