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You've heard the sayings, "Money can't buy happiness," and "Money is the root of all evil," and the newest family to move into The Dr. Phil House lives up to both of these adages! They’re engaged in a vicious war of finger-pointing and accusations over money, land and Mom's will. One daughter is slated to inherit everything while the other won’t get one red cent. How did a piece of land two family members purchased together become a royal battle ground? Family therapist Dr. Tara Fields, brings this family face to face for an emotional encounter. But will they participate? When sisters Lisa and Sara face off, who calls whom lazy and worthless, and will the siblings decide to put their grievances aside? Then, Dr. Phil makes a house call. Why is he fed up with this family? And, when Sonja's granddaughter makes a surprise visit with an emotional plea, you won't believe how Sonja responds. Can Dr. Phil get this family to focus on reuniting instead of dividing their land? Talk about the show here.

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stone69

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April 15, 2008, 6:51 pm PDT

setting it straight

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i agree with you that sonja has not handled this well -- not at all. and i think there are a lot of other issues behind this mess. but i also agree that lisa should not act as if the money belongs to her. in fact, i believe she said something aobut her mom "stealing" from her by cutting her out of the will ( unless i misunderstood). daughters and sons have to understand that their parents' money belongs to their parents until and unless they ( the parents) give it to them or leave it to them via wills or trusts. till then the parents can do what they want with it, including spending it on themselves or giving it all to a favorite charity. of course, i think parents should divide things fairly and evenly. but it's their call, not their kids".

I know the family and let me set a few things straight. Lisa only said she wants what she is entitled to because Sonja was going to WILL to Sara what Lisa owns. The land is deeded in Sonja, Lisa and Javan's name. The financing is in Lisa's name only. She was kind enough to finance it when Sonja had the same feud with her son...over some of the same land. Yes Sonja has 5 children even though she told the show she claims to only have 1. Lisa and her husband own 1/2 that land and Sonja would have lost it if they had not financed it for her.
Althougth some of these things were not made clear to the audiance it is true. Also regarding the fence. Rememeber Lisa and Javan have ownership in the entire 8.2 acres and there was only ONE driveway to both homes. When Sonja and Dan put up the fence it blocked Lisa's family from getting to and from the road!! Lisa has 3 children that Sonja put at risk when she blocked their only way into their property. Dan claimed on the show he spent approx 1200 on the fence but that ended up costing lisa and javan approx 2K for a new driveway....

So before those how judge Lisa, be sure that Sonja is not telling the truth. Other than Lisa wanting to protect her investment 'with' Sonja - there is nothing else Lisa wants from Sonja...

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April 15, 2008, 6:56 pm PDT

The Focus was on the Will

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LOL are you kidding? it's Sonja who uses the will as a symbol of love and who she respects and trusts and who she DOES NOT. That is her way of saying "I'm cutting you out of my live you are not worthy" to her eldest daughter....... I find it scary that you've children and you're unable to see this.....

I hope you listen to your sons concerns better than you did Lisa's because it wasn't about "money" it's about valuing and *showing you value* one child more than the other. ie "I love her more than you" or "your sisters a better person than you and she's worthy of me"

And what is SICK ? What mother get's pissed that her daughter comes to seee her new born sister at the hospital without calling? That's bizarr! Sonja made her leave! And then when asked about this she said "well Lisa came to the hospital without even calling what did she THINK WE'D DO?" well I'm sure her daughter didn't think she'd be turned away at a hospital visit for not calling first? Come on you are kidding right? This is just the beginning I'm sure of the mother pitting the kids against eachother.

I don't believe that Lisa thought she is "entitled to her mothers money" left behind but rather she's been trying to please and *earn her mothers love* all her life and just continues to try to get close to her. She felt she's earned a place where her mother should include her equally in her respect and admiration etc. to her sister. My children are all very special to me and while 1 is better at one thing the other is better at something else and I've always made certain they knew this.

The fact that I have children, means nothing with regards to how I feel about what I viewed on this show, from a parent and a daughter stand point. Personally, I would never favor one child, over another and I think it is despicable that Sonja does! I also wouldn't ever treat my children in the manner that Sonja did Lisa or vise versa for that matter!! My point with my kids is that if my child ever dwelled on what they gain from my death, I would be upset too.
Sonja was far from perfect, but having a daughter that thinks it's ok to constantly talk about the mom's will, as if her mom's death can't come quick enough, is disgusting and wrong! It doesn't matter the circumstances,,, it's wrong!!!!! There are many other things she COULD be focusing on rather than the will!
IT IS SICK,, that Lisa dwells on the will, the will,,,, THE WILL!!! What kind of a person does that? That was her main focus! Even Lisa's daughter went on about the will! IF the focus is not the will and since they do obviously have SO many other problems, Lisa should have focused on those,,, at least those things wouldn't be about her gaining from her mother's death!!!!
What Sonja did with regards to the little sisters birth, was WRONG and I don't understand it! I never said it was right!! That alone causes problems that last a lifetime between siblings and there is no excuse for it. But Lisa came off like a jealous child, blaming the little sister. Sonja pitted those girls against each other and I pray that they can see around that and move on.
Sonja IS at fault and so IS Lisa,, but someone needs to be the bigger person and start getting back on the right path! I personally just feel like Lisa shouldn't concern herself with what she wants to gain from her mom's death! Nothing good can come from that.

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April 15, 2008, 7:16 pm PDT

04/14 The Dr. Phil House: House of Greed

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I did not like seeing or hearing the sense of entitlement from her daughter Lisa. A will is a private issue and what that person does with his or her money is their own business. No one is owed anything from an estate. How did the will become such a big issue with this family? A will is a legacy though. Giving should come from the heart. I read where Lisa does have the mortgage for the land in her name because her mother does not qualify. Then does this make her mother a renter on the land? Then "the fence" was put up illegally and should be pulled down. My concern was that the mothers house was papered with toilet paper and that there was property damage. My other concern was there was clip where the mother said she was slapped. I have huge issues with that and for her safety. Yes, if that did happen, then yes, I can see where the mother is coming from. From listening, the mother does have valid issues. I would never question or even ask about someone elses will. The mother is striking back with the will and using it as a weapon for what has happened to her. It has made her a bitter person. But, using profanity in talking with her daughter Lisa is uncalled for. My mother never talked to me in that way. I am appalled by that kind of behavior from a mother. Ditto for the son-in-law for talking that way to his mother-in-law. In conclusion, I feel with the toilet paper incidents and the slapping, that for the interest of safety for the parties involved that one of the families should move permanently off the property and that they get on with their lives. There needs to be more space and distance. By distance I mean not living in such close proximity to each other. This might not be the best solution, but I am concerned about safety as the utmost priority. I am not expecting a group hug out of this family or a happy ending. If you can prove me wrong, Dr. Phil, more power to you!

Who said the TP-ing and pancake batter was done by Lisa? In my day kids did that kind of stuff as a Prank. A little TP and some bisquick...that does not equal vandalism. Also the mother did not mean she was physically slapped...it was a form of speech meaning when Dr. Phil said 'you are a right fighter and you will die a lonely old woman......she took it as a slap in the face...

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April 15, 2008, 7:25 pm PDT

04/14 The Dr. Phil House: House of Greed

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I disagree with you to some extent. Yes, Lisa behaved badly, but you could tell she wanted to have a relationship with her sister. (And the only names she called her was princess and spoiled , no, she said worthless too, but that is the hurt in Lisa talking!) But she is so full of jealousy and bitterness that she will need alot of help to make that happen. Poor Sara has been in the middle all her life, and THAT is totally Sonya's doing! From the day of Sara's birth, Sonya has shoved Lisa away, and made DAMN sure Lisa doesn't forget that she has been replaced with a newer, better model. It's no suprise to me that she has grown so bitter. I would too! I think the only one who the money is really a matter for is MOMMY DEAREST! She's getting off on all this fighting! I hope that Dr. Phil can convince Lisa that the money is just her mom's evil way of pushing her buttons, and see that it isn't even the real issue. I really hope to see the sisters make amends, and can build a relationship together. And even if the vindictive Sonya does leave everything to Sara, I'm sure that girl has a good and loving heart, and will share with her sister no matter what that nasty old witch intended! I just hope Sonya's nastiness won't infect sweet Sara. She has already done it to poor Lisa. Even though she is an adult, I call that emotional child abuse!

Your opinion is an interesting one, I didn't get the impression that Lisa wanted a relationship with Sara just to be sisters. To me it seemed as though that, too, would just be a means to the end of getting some of Sonya's money. And that is what bothered me most about Lisa throughout the whole show -- her sense of entitlement to her mom's estate. I surely don't condone Sonya for her actions -- although I found some of her comments almost humorous (i.e. "I'm not freakinn' dead yet!!") -- but Lisa's attitude hardly came across as someone who wanted to heal any broken relationship. I just simply found her boorish and greedy and while it might be her "hurt talking" then I think some of what her mom said has to be attibuted to her hurt talking. Lisa calling her mom by her first name is hurtful by anybody's standards. For Lisa's sake, I do hope this family continues to get help somewhere because her wrath over the fence and the possibility that she won't receive money from a potential will is certainly causing a real cancer within her own family. Her husband and daughter are pathetically caught up in Lisa's issues. It's time for one of those families to move!!

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April 15, 2008, 7:57 pm PDT

the will

Alot of you keep saying Lisa wants money from her mother in the will, but the only one who talked about the will was Sonya. Lisa said she wanted half the land that she pays half for. I think Sonya is a very sick person. She is the one who didn't want her daughters to bond because she was jealous they would leave her out. Sonya is such a baby. You have my suppoert, Lisa.

love and peace to you and yours,

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April 15, 2008, 9:46 pm PDT

Slapped

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Who said the TP-ing and pancake batter was done by Lisa? In my day kids did that kind of stuff as a Prank. A little TP and some bisquick...that does not equal vandalism. Also the mother did not mean she was physically slapped...it was a form of speech meaning when Dr. Phil said 'you are a right fighter and you will die a lonely old woman......she took it as a slap in the face...

The clip that said she was slapped is for the coming show next week.

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April 15, 2008, 10:00 pm PDT

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Thought about this show all day and last night. I dvr'd the show from yesterday and didn't think i missed anything but here goes....How did Lisa find out that she wasn't in her mothers will??? Did her mother tell everyone else but her??? Thats manipulative #1 i saw right away. The other was when she told her daughter she should have called the hospital first to come see her baby sister....does anyone know their age difference? Because if she was an only child for a period of time and still young ....children do get upset....a real and understanding mother would know that. And Im sure she told sara many times how Lisa didn't want a new sister. Do you know anyone that had to call their mother to come see a new sibling? I am going to go crazy waiting for next week.... and also be thankful that I have a wonderful mother and a wonderful sister. I am going to go back and read all the messages for this show.THANKS SO MUCH

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April 15, 2008, 10:02 pm PDT

Sonja, Narcisstic personality disorder

Sonja has ruined this family. She loves no one, other than herself. Her younger daughter is her pet, for now, because she's still so young, so naive, and polishes her mother's image by agreeing with her. I feel sorry for Sara. Her mother is totally toxic, totally self centered, and poor Sara doesn't see it at all. Someday, she will. Her mother is vicious. Lisa should stop caring and RUN, DO NOT WALK, out of that nutcase mother's life.
Lisa, cut her loose, she will never love you. She's not capable of it. A BIG clue was when she didn't welcome your visit when your sister was born. Totally loony behavior.

RUN LISA RUN!

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April 15, 2008, 10:03 pm PDT

Tp and Pancake

BTW--Anyone that thinks teepeeing a house and putting pancake on the landscape is a childish prank that kids did back in their day, well...these aren't kids...these are adults!! That is a form of revenge that could easily escalate.

The mother denying her daughter the right to see her sister after she is born is terrible.

There is so much wrong with this family.

The youngest daughter seems to be the most level headed of the crazy bunch.

One of the families needs to pack up and move away so there can be some peace.

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April 15, 2008, 10:10 pm PDT

ITS NOT ABOUT THE WILL

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Why do these family members think they are entitled to anything? Sounds like a bunch of greedy leeches to me. Gimmee, gimmee, gimmee! Not one of them deserves anything. Grandma , or anyone for that matter, has the right to give her money and property to anyone she wishes. This is certainly not about the will. I think Dr. Phil is a little one sided about this the way he chewed Grandma out.

This show was not about the will even though thats all they talked about and the fence. Its about a manipulative mother who started this from the birth of her second child. Everyone should have seen what Sonya was about when Dr. Phil had to tell her to comfort her grandaughter and to go and hug her. I would love to know how old Lisa is because you can still be hurt at any age from a mother who goes out of her way to show her daughter she doesn't love her

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