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Topic : 04/14 The Dr. Phil House: House of Greed

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Created on : Friday, April 11, 2008, 08:16:44 am
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You've heard the sayings, "Money can't buy happiness," and "Money is the root of all evil," and the newest family to move into The Dr. Phil House lives up to both of these adages! They’re engaged in a vicious war of finger-pointing and accusations over money, land and Mom's will. One daughter is slated to inherit everything while the other won’t get one red cent. How did a piece of land two family members purchased together become a royal battle ground? Family therapist Dr. Tara Fields, brings this family face to face for an emotional encounter. But will they participate? When sisters Lisa and Sara face off, who calls whom lazy and worthless, and will the siblings decide to put their grievances aside? Then, Dr. Phil makes a house call. Why is he fed up with this family? And, when Sonja's granddaughter makes a surprise visit with an emotional plea, you won't believe how Sonja responds. Can Dr. Phil get this family to focus on reuniting instead of dividing their land? Talk about the show here.

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April 15, 2008, 10:15 pm PDT

Who was talking about the Will?

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  • The fact that I have children, means nothing with regards to how I feel about what I viewed on this show, from a parent and a daughter stand point. Personally, I would never favor one child, over another and I think it is despicable that Sonja does! I also wouldn't ever treat my children in the manner that Sonja did Lisa or vise versa for that matter!! My point with my kids is that if my child ever dwelled on what they gain from my death, I would be upset too.
  • Sonja was far from perfect, but having a daughter that thinks it's ok to constantly talk about the mom's will, as if her mom's death can't come quick enough, is disgusting and wrong! It doesn't matter the circumstances,,, it's wrong!!!!! There are many other things she COULD be focusing on rather than the will!
  •  IT IS SICK,, that Lisa dwells on the will, the will,,,, THE WILL!!! What kind of a person does that? That was her main focus! Even Lisa's daughter went on about the will! IF the focus is not the will and since they do obviously have SO many other problems, Lisa should have focused on those,,, at least those things wouldn't be about her gaining from her mother's death!!!!
  •  What Sonja did with regards to the little sisters birth, was WRONG and I don't understand it! I never said it was right!! That alone causes problems that last a lifetime between siblings and there is no excuse for it. But Lisa came off like a jealous child, blaming the little sister. Sonja pitted those girls against each other and I pray that they can see around that and move on.
  •  Sonja IS at fault and so IS Lisa,, but someone needs to be the bigger person and start getting back on the right path! I personally just feel like Lisa shouldn't concern herself with what she wants to gain from her mom's death! Nothing good can come from that.  
 I only heard Sonja talk about the will, over and over and over. 

This whole thing has nothing to do with money or a will.  It's about what Dr.Phil said, Sonja uses the will to show who she loves and who she doesn't love.  It's never about the money.  It's always "see, this PROVES mom loved me best".   I would imagine that Lisa is desperate for some sign, any sign, that her mother EVER loved her since it seems pretty clear that she didn't.  It's not about the money, it's about the love, or lack thereof. 

Sonja gave her teenage grandchildren Christmas ornaments for Christmas and then got all hurt that they weren't thrilled with her gift?  What teen wants Christmas ornaments?   Did it occur to her to give them something that THEY wanted, not something SHE wanted to give them?  She is so totally self focused that she can't begin to think of what someone else may want.  She was horrible to that Granddaughter.  Poor girl deserves a better grandmother, one who thinks of the child, rather than only herself. 

Sonja is a horrible mother, both of her daughters deserve better.  I hope they can both leave her before they end up bitter old women like she is.  She doesn't deserve to have children, or grandchildren because she can't think of anyone but herself. 
 
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April 15, 2008, 10:17 pm PDT

04/14 The Dr. Phil House: House of Greed

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You have it wrong, Lisa own half of the land already no will needed, so are you saying that Lisa should get half of the other 4 acres that Sonja owns?  if so then that means that Sonja would be entitled to half of what Lisa owns, if Lisa dies first.

 

where in the show did you hear Lisa say anything about love, just the will

 Where would Lisa have learned anything about love?  Certainly not from her mother. 
 
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April 15, 2008, 10:24 pm PDT

Narcissist personality disorder

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Well espically to the last part about edcuating the public. I'm not sure if Dr. Phil understands that he is dealing with a person who has a personality disorder. Men of this type tend to be narcissists and women borderlines. She was the most evil one I have seen! Dr. Phil has a terrific staff and somebody picked up on that, they had too. He either knows better than to call a boderline and boderline and sticks to things that will get her attention i.e. you will die lonely which appeals to their tremendous fear of abandonment or is completely clueless to the fact that he is not dealing with a normal person cabable of reasoning in a normal manner.

 

Any type of enlightenment on this subject would be emensely helpful. Most people dealing with people who are sick like Sonya just keep trying hoping and believing that the person is normal. They leave tremendous scars on those around them and most people are clueless. This isn't a pancake! it doesn't have two sides its like dealing with a drug addict or worse. PLEASE DO A SHOW THAT DISCUSSES NARCISSISTS/BODERLINES a panel promo a book or something!!!!! These people are monsters... real life monsters. I swear that whomever invented the idea of a vampire did it because they were involved with one of these people. It is more important than dealing with drunk teenagers or overweight moms and if it doesn't fit inthe scope of Dr. Phil then maybe Oprah should do it. It's been around for a long time but nobody has really sat down and edcuated the public.

 

Familys and innocent people are destroyed by these people and telling family memebers that it's there fault or implying that they are somehow wrong, espically to person raised by one of those people is nothing short of ABUSE!  Lisa is not to blame for anything she needs help to understand her mother and set boundaries and so does Sara! She does need to hear Dr. Phil say it isn't her fault because it isn't. She trusts that he is helping her and he is not he is contributing to the abuse. 

 

 

 Sonja could be the poster child for NPD.  I do hope that Dr. Phil will do a show on this order, particularly how it impacts children. 
 
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April 15, 2008, 11:36 pm PDT

Sonja? Is that you?

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Lisa has another house she can live in far far away from her mother. 
 I sure hope that Lisa will realize that her narcissitic/borderline mother will never be able to give her the love that Lisa is still trying to get.  Lisa needs to cut her losses, give up on her horrible mother, and move on to that other house, asap. 
 
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April 15, 2008, 11:50 pm PDT

Borderline personality disorder, not bipolar

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I highly doubt that by watching a 1 hour show could tell you everything you need to know to be able to diagnose someone. Do you even know what bi-polar disorder is? Im a psychology major and Im sorry, this show dint answer enough questions or show enough detail to diagnose anyone.
 Yes, watching a show for an hour makes it VERY clear that Sonja is either borderline personality disorder or narcisstic personality disorder.  Neither has anything to do with bi polar disorder.  They are personality disorders, not mood disorders.  Sonja could be the poster child for BPD.  EVERYTHING was about her and how she's been hurt.  She couldn't begin to feel anything for anyone, not even her own daughter.  <shudders>  She should never have been a parent. 
 
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April 16, 2008, 12:40 am PDT

04/14 The Dr. Phil House: House of Greed

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I have a mother just like Sonja.  As an adult I finally had to come to the realization that my mother just does not and will never love me as I feel a mother should love a child.  After a lot of tears and years of my own mother's style of abuse I am happy to say that I no longer have any contact with her.  I no longer have to receive her hatefulness because I have made a conscience decisiong to be free of her.  It litterally is freeing...Lisa just needs to make a clean break and live and love her own family.  The only thing that I regret about not doing it sooner is that I missed wonderful things that my own children were doing because I was so hurt by things my own mother would do.  Rid yourself of that woman, and work every day to live and fully love your own family in the moment.  Lisa...You can be a better person without that costic woman in your life.  Even as I write this, and I think about the similiarities between Sonja and my own mother it makes me sick for Lisa.  I feel badly for her because I know how badly it hurts, but once you can free yourself of Sonja you will feel so much better. 

 

I realize that Dr. Phil is a relationship healer, but some relationships aren't worth it, and sometimes it's hard when the relationship that does not need to be fixed, repaired or healed is the one between a mother and a child.  Sonja will end up doing everything she has already done again!!!!

 

 

 Well said!  Lisa need to get away and focus on her own family.  She will soon find how completely liberating it will be for her. 
 
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April 16, 2008, 5:18 am PDT

Boarderline Personality Disorder

I was surprised Dr Phil had a woman with a Boarderline Per Disorder on a show titled Greed. BLPD believe all the world is a stage that revolves around them. They have the need to manipulate all the relationships they come in contact with.

 

A BPDO is not like a normal person, she doesn't understand that having your children care about each other is the most valuable gift you can give them.

 

I just think her problems are way to deep to address in a family intervention. her oldest daughter probably has sudo problems from being raaised by her.

 

My mother was a BPDO and life with her was so painful and heartbreaking and she liked it that way! She died at 80 and never changed. She struck out with her last few familily keepsakes. Not about value but about the little things that meant so much to me.

 

You cannot get along with a BPDO she will fake it for others while she plots in private.......a sad choice to have on the show!

 
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April 16, 2008, 5:29 am PDT

Boarderline PD

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 Sonja could be the poster child for NPD.  I do hope that Dr. Phil will do a show on this order, particularly how it impacts children. 

I felt your pain because, I too, lived it. This is not about property or wills or money it is about control and meanness. Sonja job in life is to cause havic and dissent to those around her. In her twisted way she weighs her love that way.

 

I came from a family of 7 children and my mother spent her life pitting one of us against the other. If we hated each other all we had was her to worship: and God help us if we didn't.

 

The day my mother died I could not shed one tear I only felt relief running through my veins. But she won....she made sure I didn't even get one family keepsake. Not monitary things, but the things that really mattered like a piece of jewly that belong to my Dear Grandma or a cufflink from my beloved father.

 

I know your pain...and I share it.  Peggy

 
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April 16, 2008, 5:44 am PDT

04/14 The Dr. Phil House: House of Greed

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 I only heard Sonja talk about the will, over and over and over. 

This whole thing has nothing to do with money or a will.  It's about what Dr.Phil said, Sonja uses the will to show who she loves and who she doesn't love.  It's never about the money.  It's always "see, this PROVES mom loved me best".   I would imagine that Lisa is desperate for some sign, any sign, that her mother EVER loved her since it seems pretty clear that she didn't.  It's not about the money, it's about the love, or lack thereof. 

Sonja gave her teenage grandchildren Christmas ornaments for Christmas and then got all hurt that they weren't thrilled with her gift?  What teen wants Christmas ornaments?   Did it occur to her to give them something that THEY wanted, not something SHE wanted to give them?  She is so totally self focused that she can't begin to think of what someone else may want.  She was horrible to that Granddaughter.  Poor girl deserves a better grandmother, one who thinks of the child, rather than only herself. 

Sonja is a horrible mother, both of her daughters deserve better.  I hope they can both leave her before they end up bitter old women like she is.  She doesn't deserve to have children, or grandchildren because she can't think of anyone but herself. 

You speak of lisa as if she is a troubled child, Lisa is 40 something, She act's like a troubled child, but she is not a child she is a adult, and should be responsible for her actions she took in this familys troubles, I know its hard to get passed what the mother said, she really didn't help herself in the first part of the show, but why is she so angery, with her daughter?  and how much is a mother to take from a middle age daughter, should she huge and kiss her for threating to call the police? screaming and cussing that happens across the fence, verbal abuse from daughters hubby, the TPing of her house and cake batter, verbal abuse to the younger teenage sister, What middle age adult daughter does that to her mother? would you, I hope not. You should act like a adult, walk away, we don't act like a child.

 

The Ornaments, how sad of a statement by you, the ornaments she said was to remember her by, My children use to get quilts from their great grandmother for X-mas something to remember her by, would they wanted a PSP instead, yes, but as I told them one day you will cherish them,  as I do.

Christmas is about giving not getting, To bad Lisa couldn't teach her children that, but I guess if you can't understand that yourself, how can she teach it.

 
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April 16, 2008, 6:06 am PDT

04/14 The Dr. Phil House: House of Greed

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 I sure hope that Lisa will realize that her narcissitic/borderline mother will never be able to give her the love that Lisa is still trying to get.  Lisa needs to cut her losses, give up on her horrible mother, and move on to that other house, asap. 
How can Lisa realizes her mother is narrissitic, when she herself is?
 
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