Quote From: momakababe"That is my point! Lisa and her daughter DID go on about the will and that is what I just can't understand! "
I believe the person you just answered quoted from dr. Phil saying that he explained that Sonja used the will as a means of telling her children who she does and does not love........... She included her granddaughter in that!
It is Sonja that has made her will a symbol of her acceptance and love and a symbol of who she favors etc. and then you do not understand why her daughters and granddaughter went on about it? Perhaps Lisa is trying to explain what we all have been trying to explain as it being a symbol of something larger and Lisa's daughter understands her mothers pain with being rejected from grandma and feels that SAME rejection!? And those thinking that she's "only focused on "The WILL" keep hearing her say "she cut me from the will" but they just can't seem to grasp the significance of that............ It means "she's cut off her love from us completely" That's what that says & it's an indefinite thing because after death it's final!
Lisa didn't say her children were "ungrateful" for the Christmas ornament gifts they'd gotten she just said that her mother (their grandmother) got hurt they weren't *thrilled*! And if this woman is so wacked out that shed *turn her daughter away from the hospital to visit with her mother and new born sister because Lisa hadn't *called first* what makes you think this grandmother DIDN'T get visibly upset in front of the grandchildren? She seems to play the victim very well here........
the most insightful thing I think in *your post* and the most insightful thing you've said is that there is a "life time of hurt leading up to this" and if the dysfunction from Sonja goes as far back as the birth of her younger daughter I imagine it goes long before it as well. Lisa should be mature enough to handle some of it, however we are continually taught that we're suppose to turn the other cheek and that all grandchildren should have their extended family etc. and so living in this "I want more, more, more" life perhaps Lisa has continued to try to gain some kind of acceptance and LOVE from her mother! That's why this daughter moved in so close to start with. Her *moving close and side by side* IMO is her attempt at trying to develope a close *side by side* relationship with her mother. And her mother let her sinnk in deep so she'd be stuck with a HUGE finacial bill to get out of a place that will not only hurt Lisa but Lisa's children as well! What better way to hurt a woman (your child) than to hurt HER kids too?! It's the ultimate wound isn't it?! Where are the "morals" in this?
It has been prov en that numerous people can witness a car accident and each person can have a different view of exactly what happened! That is kind of what these boards are. OUR personal view of what we got out of the show. We can learn from each other, lift each other's spirits, share experiences to help others, disagree with others and so on! That's a great thing!
BUT, Your post on the other hand are full of assumptions in your responses to other posters. You not only ASSUME that you know a persons life views (or life in general) from one sentence, but you always seem to be on a personal attack mode with all your judgments! Sad really! You seem to read a post and in your response, you add your own little twist on what the other person ACTUALLY said and even the meaning of WHAT they said!
I am NOT backing Sonja! Your post assumed that I backed Sonja's behavior, when I never once condoned her behavior and I wouldn't condone anyone like her! I DID SAY that I would be bitter in her shoes too,,, ONLY IF,, and my point was,,,, IF I had a child that would be THAT focused on my will, I too would be upset! I said that ONE small sentence,,, out of all my many thoughts that could have wrote. I chose to shorten it and you took it and ran with it! Thank GOD I will never have this problem in my own family because my family is the polar opposite of Sonja's!
I am sorry that you have had the family struggles that you have had. No one should have to go through that. My point here was NOT defending Sonja, but pure disgust with the fact that Lisa seemed to dwell on what she wants from her mothers death! Point blank! You can stop defending Lisa because of what her mother has done to her! I agree with what you said about Sonja and the mother is scum in my book! But I disagree with the fact that ANYONE should be that worried about what they get out of someones death! There is a way to go about things like that, and what this show aired, was obviously NOT the way to go about it. Again,,, OBVIOUSLY,,, they are on the Dr, Phil show, doesn't that speak volumes that EVERYONE involved needs to handle things differently??? I respectfully agree, to disagree with you on that matter!!
You've heard the sayings, "Money can't buy happiness," and "Money is the root of all evil," and the newest family to move into The Dr. Phil House lives up to both of these adages! They’re engaged in a vicious war of finger-pointing and accusations over money, land and Mom's will. One daughter is slated to inherit everything while the other won’t get one red cent. How did a piece of land two family members purchased together become a royal battle ground? Family therapist Dr. Tara Fields, brings this family face to face for an emotional encounter. But will they participate? When sisters Lisa and Sara face off, who calls whom lazy and worthless, and will the siblings decide to put their grievances aside? Then, Dr. Phil makes a house call. Why is he fed up with this family? And, when Sonja's granddaughter makes a surprise visit with an emotional plea, you won't believe how Sonja responds. Can Dr. Phil get this family to focus on reuniting instead of dividing their land? Talk about the show here.
