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Parents, if you wonder whether your teenager has a drug problem, pay close attention to today’s show. What you may think is normal teen behavior can turn into big trouble fast. Rick and Dawn say they’re at war with their 17-year-old son, Brad. They say he smokes marijuana, skips school, flies into rages, kicks holes in the walls, and even got into a drunken brawl with his father at his 16th birthday party! Brad admits that he smokes pot every day before school, but says everyone he knows is doing it. Dr. Phil has some hard questions for Brad and his parents. Is this just typical teen behavior, or is Brad an addict? Then, don’t miss an update with the heroin-addicted twin sisters, Sarah and Tecoa. Find out which twin went missing, and follow their friend, Joani’s, exhaustive search to bring her back to Dr. Phil. Talk about the show here.

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April 23, 2008, 11:09 pm PDT

Where's the control

Where has the control went. I'm 39 and married,without children.But when I watch these show and see a parent say they cant get there children to do well whatever. Cant. I dont understand. My parents didnt ask me any questions. They told me what, when and how much. Dont get me wrong I did my share of no-no's,Yes that would be drugs. Nothing hard. I tried smoking a little. And I thought all was good. Until one day I came home from school and they got me. They found notes that I had wrote to friends(during school)

and there was no getting out of that one. I was grounded until (they said so)that meant no phone,no TV, no music,drivers lic. was taken. (My Dad paid for it, he could take it away. )I could only leave the house with my parents.My time was spent in bedroom reading a book( of Dads choice)I didnt dare even mention how they found notes.I knew. Thats what I mean...Take back control.Dare them to test you, then SHOW them.Take everything out of bedroom except bed.what can they do. Call the law. Let them. Take the Drivers Lic. except for parents errands.Come on parents. Your the ADULT. Their the Children. Live by it.

 
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April 24, 2008, 12:50 am PDT

Cigs Verses Drugs

Versius attacked Dr. Phil about not getting people to stop smoking if you asked him he would help. The boy Brad would not even admit he had a problem. My son was just like that and now he is a junkie. How dare you attack Dr. Phil for his approach, it works. I think he had parents that loved him and they are no different than any other parents. So Dr. Phil it was a very good show.

 
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April 24, 2008, 9:50 am PDT

of course

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Hi Dawn,

 

I completely understand how exhausting the process can be and how brutal/judgmental (and completely unfounded and warped) some of the criticism can be on the message boards.

 

I am happy to see that your situation with your son has been turned around. It must have been an answer to your prayers to get him at the point where he would take the treatment and turn his life around. "With God all things are possible" and "All things work together for good for those who love the Lord and are called according to his purposes" Romans 8:28

 

It is quite a risk to open your family, home, and personal lives up to public knowledge and scrutiny. Lots of people have written into the boards with similar problems with their teens. Prayers, hotlines, websites, books, methods of counseling or treatments, etc that have actually worked seem to be what they need.

 

www.family.org offers 1 free phone counseling session and good solid referrals, for instance. Beauty for Ashes by Joyce Meyers and Breaking Free by Beth Moore are also great resources for families dealing with abuse and addictions, whether past or present. If you have not read Breaking Free, it might be really enlightening, it would give your family the tools to make sure that these issues are truly not passed down to future generations.

 

Heather (a group of ladies that I work with connect people who are desperate to resources to help them and encourage them, would you be interested in helping others who are experiencing the problems that you had?)

 

 

Thank you for all of encouragement.  I have read Beauty for Ashes but not Breaking Free.  I will get that.  I am now reading and using "The Prayerful Parent".  It is awesome.  I would love to be of help to anyone needing it.  Whatever you need, just let me know.  I certainly do not have all the answers but can help search for them.

Dawn

 
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April 29, 2008, 12:15 pm PDT

04/16 Drug Troubles

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You don't hear form the Alcoholic,saying hey its just alittle alcohol!! leave the kid alone, But we do hear from the pot heads out there tring to justify pot smoking for a 17 year old kid.

( THIS IS YOUR BRAIN, THIS IS YOUR BRAIN ON DRUGS ANY QUESTIONS)

 

To debate Marijuana should it be or not be legal, is one thing,  But to look over the problems the child had at the time and say it had nothing to do with it, points out that the drug did effect you brains, and it dosn't help your side of the debate.

 

Should Marijuana be legal, I think yes, but should a child use it NO!!!! and as long as people who smoke way to much of it debate for it, using there effect brains, and their brain damaged ideas, like the pot had nothing to do with this kids problems, it will never pass, and never be legal.

The pot smoking for this kid is a side affect for not being parented properly,  No child should be smoking pot. That's not what I'm saying.  And there is no brain damage here, I've always had a full time job (and not at McDonalds!!), I put myself through college...Not everything is for everyone. 
 
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April 30, 2008, 8:17 am PDT

Not Always the Parent's Fault

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The pot smoking for this kid is a side affect for not being parented properly,  No child should be smoking pot. That's not what I'm saying.  And there is no brain damage here, I've always had a full time job (and not at McDonalds!!), I put myself through college...Not everything is for everyone. 
Children turn to drugs for many reasons.  Sometimes it is peer pressure or the pain of a break-up, etc.  To blame the parent of each drug addict or pot smoker is too much of a generalization.  Read David Shef'f's book "Beautiful Boy."  It is a father's desperate attempt to save his son from the streets, prostitution and drug use.  In the book "Tweak" the boy (Nic Sheff) himself tells the story.  They were both on Oprah. I bought Tweak for my teenagers.  Highly recommended!!
 
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April 30, 2008, 3:10 pm PDT

My Responsibility

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Pot a gateway drug? Are you kidding? Why do alot of drug addicts start out on pot? Do you really think it's a good idea to jump right into crack?  Most people aren't THAT dumb.  Let me just explain my opinion.  I'm not a professional in ANY way, but nothing you can say will make me think any different.

 

When kids are experimenting at a young age, they are more prone to be doing it to go along with the crowd and fit in.  Add to that possible problems at home that could be affecting the way a child grows emotionally, and could have negative effects on the self-esteem of the user.  Now that person uses a drug which will probably make them feel better.  The young person with the negative self-esteem will continue to use, and also to possibly move on to harder things that may or may not make them feel better.  As a result, school may or may not suffer, usually it does, and all the extreme negative things that could possibly happen, likely will happen.

 

Those kids who do make it through HS by the grace of God, then may or may not go on to lead underproductive, meaningless lives, it is true that smoking marijuana makes you somewhat lazy, but if you are already prone to laziness, that is when it really has the effects.  Those people who are hard workers, and know when and how to have their fun, can lead VERY successful lives.

 

I started smoking marijuana at 20, I experimented late, and I think that was a benefit because I have a high IQ (Dr.'s told me that, I'm not bragging), and I knew the side effects of being addicted to drugs, but I also am naturally curious, and I like to find things out by personal experience as well as 'book learnin', and so I moved beyond pot...and do you know what I realized?  My self esteem was too high to even want to do those hard drugs.  They had no appeal for me, as a matter of fact, I was able to realize the negative way the 'uppers' made me feel.  So I stopped.  Now I just smoke weed.  Very often, and the only reason I think I'm gonna quit when I move in 3 months is because I don't like the negative effects smoking has on my lungs.  Every situation is different, and I am sorry your son fell into the web of addiction, if you're worried about burying him at 22, then he must have started experimenting when he was young, and it was YOUR responsibility if he was a minor in your roof to make sure he didn't get caught up in the drug scene.  And I am not trying to be insensitive to what this woman is going through (To those of you who are gonna jump on me for being a horrible person) because let me just say that had I started experimenting whern I was a teen, I'd probably be dead or in need of rehab right now.  I just wasn't "cool" enough to hang with the people who did drugs when I was in school, and I thank God NOW that I was a loser in HS.

You certainly don't "sound" sorry that my son fell into the 'web of drug addiction.'  My husband and I are and have been very RESPONSIBLE for our son's welfare.  You don't even know us!  Our entire extended family (grandparents, uncles, aunts, cousins, sister) have been very RESPONSIBLE for our son's welfare.  I am devastated that you would say such a thing to me.  We, the parents, are always supposed to "get a clue."  Well, this family saw ALL the clues, signs, warnings, etc.  We DID get him help.  He has been to clinics and has met with psychiatrists, psychologists, social workers and police officers.  All of them offering our son good solid advice.  He has always received counseling and worked with people who we knew would make a good impression on him.  My husband and I have put our hands in the air and gave up.  The friends that our son knew who lead him (and our son is a follower, not a leader) are strung out themselves these days or in jail.  These are people our son went to Catholic grade school and Catholic high school with.  So my husband and I were supposed to "make sure he didn't get caught up in the drug scene."  Please tell me how.  Should we have had him followed day and night?  Did your parents follow you day and night?  Wait,  my friend, one day you will be a parent and I hope YOU have all the right answers on how to raise your children.
 
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May 2, 2008, 12:53 pm PDT

Dont give up

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I will definitely watch this episode of Dr. Phil since it so closely resembles what I went through and am still going through with my middle son (I have 3 sons...each 2 years apart and now grown).

 

#2 son did all the things mentioned in the synopsis plus many more.  I am quite sure he did things that I never even knew about.  He has a juvenile record longer than both of my arms and legs and now, since he's an adult, his record is growing by leaps and bounds.  He is currently a guest of the Texas Dept of Criminal Justice (TDCJ) and will be until April 2009.  This visit to TDCJ is the result of domestic abuse of a family member.  He knocked out his girlfriend's 2 front teeth during a fight they were having.  Both of them were drunk and high on marijuana at the time.

 

He was up for parole last month (March 2008) and I requested an interview with the Parole Board.  I did a telephone interview with the lady in charge of the Parole Board.  The first thing she asked me was if I was advocating or protesting.  I immediately told her that I was protesting!!!  He is a danger to himself and to society and probably always will be.  At age 15 years, he broke my nose when I confronted him with his stash of marijuana.  Then when I picked up the phone to call 911, he grabbed it out of my hand and tried to knock me out with it.  I had to run to escape further injury.

 

There was a time not long after that when I told him it was time to come in the house since it was getting late.  His temper flared again and he came after me with a knife.  Fortunately, I was able to get into the house and lock the door before he could stab me.

 

Apparently giving this information to the Parole Board, as his birth mother, and telling them that I was in fear of my life should he be allowed parole carried some weight with them because he was denied parole.  He will now be an inmate until April 2009.  I intend to obtain a permanent restraining order against him prior to that date.  I realize that a piece of paper is not going to stop him so I have taken other measures to protect myself as well.

 

He was raised the same way as my other 2 sons and they're both "normal" (whatever that means).  He was diagnosed with ADHD when he was 5; however, I did everything I could to help him.  At the age he is now, 28 years old, I can no longer do anything to help him.  Now I just have to let it go and protect myself.

 

I guess 2 good ones out of 3 is all I can expect...

I know its really hard for you, I have been through alot of the same things as you have.  I tried everything including tough love.  My 23 year old son committed suicide  and I will forever live with the guilt.  Just remember to tell your son everyday that you love him and always leave your door open to him  Good Luck

 
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May 4, 2008, 10:14 am PDT

04/16 Drug Troubles

Quote From: hrinks

Hi Dawn,

 

I completely understand how exhausting the process can be and how brutal/judgmental (and completely unfounded and warped) some of the criticism can be on the message boards.

 

I am happy to see that your situation with your son has been turned around. It must have been an answer to your prayers to get him at the point where he would take the treatment and turn his life around. "With God all things are possible" and "All things work together for good for those who love the Lord and are called according to his purposes" Romans 8:28

 

It is quite a risk to open your family, home, and personal lives up to public knowledge and scrutiny. Lots of people have written into the boards with similar problems with their teens. Prayers, hotlines, websites, books, methods of counseling or treatments, etc that have actually worked seem to be what they need.

 

www.family.org offers 1 free phone counseling session and good solid referrals, for instance. Beauty for Ashes by Joyce Meyers and Breaking Free by Beth Moore are also great resources for families dealing with abuse and addictions, whether past or present. If you have not read Breaking Free, it might be really enlightening, it would give your family the tools to make sure that these issues are truly not passed down to future generations.

 

Heather (a group of ladies that I work with connect people who are desperate to resources to help them and encourage them, would you be interested in helping others who are experiencing the problems that you had?)

 

 

Heather, When you were on the show, you were in a terrible situation. I didn't post a brutal message to you, but there were a lot of things that I didn't understand. I only hope that your situation improved greatly or that you got out. I realize that it's really none of my business. But you DID come on the show and when someone does that, they open themselves up to judgement and critisizm. The worst thing for me to watch was the fact that your little girl was in the middle of your situation and very possibly in physical danger. (And definitely in emotional danger) I hope y'all did get some counseling.

 
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May 6, 2008, 6:20 am PDT

Son Back

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When I watched this show I was doing other things and was just kind of listening along and it was amazing how this sounded like my life.  So, I sat down and watched the whole episode and other then the parents allowing Bradley to drink in the home and the father and he physically fighting, this could have been my story to a T.  I have a teenage son who is getting ready to turn 17 and is struggling with the use of marijuana.  He was a straight A student and he and I had such a close and loving relationship until about a year ago when he started "experimenting".  I get the same answer from him that this boy gave.  He says "everybody" does it and he can quit anytime.  He just likes the way it relaxes him.  He feels like treatment for marijuana is stupid.  His grades have fallen and his whole attitude has changed.  I feel for Bradley's parents, like them I am far from perfect and truly don't know any parent that is.  I feel like my husband and I have absolutely done everything we could for our son and raised him in a loving home.  But sometimes when kids grow up they start to make more decisions on their own and unfortunately the decisions that they make aren't always the right ones.  This show has really opened my eyes to some hard decisions that I have to make concerning my son.  I just want my son back and I feel like I have just completely lost him sometimes.  To Bradley's parents:  If you have any suggestions or advice for me, I am open to listening.  I feel like I am so alone in this sometimes and it is so hard knowing if I, as a parent, am making the right decisions when it comes to my son. 

 

As soon as I read that sentence,  "I just want my son back", I broke down in tears.  I, too, want my son back.  I have pictures of him in each room of our home.  Of a happy child, a caring child, an educated person with a good head on his shoulders and a family who loves him to death.  I, too, feel like I have lost him sometimes.  He never talks to us anymore, has no feelings for any family member, used to love to work on cars, now he barely looks at his own.  In my eyes he is just a shell of a man at 22.  I don't know where to turn anymore or whom to talk to.  I go to these message boards but no matter how much I read, I walk away from this computer feeling empty. 
 
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May 6, 2008, 4:50 pm PDT

unconditional

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As soon as I read that sentence,  "I just want my son back", I broke down in tears.  I, too, want my son back.  I have pictures of him in each room of our home.  Of a happy child, a caring child, an educated person with a good head on his shoulders and a family who loves him to death.  I, too, feel like I have lost him sometimes.  He never talks to us anymore, has no feelings for any family member, used to love to work on cars, now he barely looks at his own.  In my eyes he is just a shell of a man at 22.  I don't know where to turn anymore or whom to talk to.  I go to these message boards but no matter how much I read, I walk away from this computer feeling empty. 
I just felt the need to write to you.  I am Dawn, Brad's mom.  The show only shows a little tidbit of our lives.  I also have a brother that has been all of his adult life addicted to drugs and my sister has been addicted to pain medication since the death of our mother since I was 14 years old.  So, not only have I lived with this with Brad, but also with my immediate family.  I, however, never used (except for tasting the brownie incident) and have no desire for that or drinking.  Go figure how out of 3 kids 2 of them are addicts and 1 isn't.  I am lucky and thank God each and every moment.  I know the helpless feeling you have.  The love you have in your heart and the desire to fix it.  Please know that you are not alone.  One thing I have learned throughout this process is that We cannot fix it.  The ache and the pain we feel is neverending.  We have to deal with our pain without drugs or alcohol where the addict uses and doesn't deal with the pain they feel.  Seems unfair.  I think that we are given challenges in life and we can rise to the occassion or do nothing.  We have and you have tried so much.  But the addict has to want help.  The addict has to desire to live a better life.  Most don't.  I cry for all of them.  All of the goodness they have in them that is going wasted.  One thing that I know is that we have only a short time on this earth and we have to make the most of it.  We let our children know how unconditionally they are loved and what is expected of them and what they need to do to live an abundant life.  That is all we can do when they reach adulthood.  We will always feel guilty for something that we did or didn't do because while we know in our hearts it is not our fault, it seems like it must be.  But it is not.  I know your heart aches as does mine.  I know the fear that you have as do I.  I have a wonderful friend that sent me a book called "The Prayerful Parent".  It is truly awesome and I see God's hand in our lives as I pray the prayers in it.  I am doing the best I can as are you.  That is our gift to our children and family.  We fight for each other, we cry with each other and we love each other.  No answer to this mess.  But our gift is to be the best that we can be.  I am here.  I can listen.  I can hear.  I can understand.  It truly is a wonderful world when total strangers can talk and listen and be there for each other.  Just step outside in the morning, take a deep breath and know that you are not alone.
 
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