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Topic : 07/01 A Secret Inside: Extreme Hoarding

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Created on : Friday, April 25, 2008, 02:58:59 pm

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(Original Air Date: 04/28/08) Imagine being forced to dwell in a space that is so cluttered with junk, food and trash, you can barely walk. Nancy and her boyfriend, Bob, live this nightmare every day. In their two homes, flies and plastic containers fill the kitchen, moldy food is stuffed in four refrigerators, and boxes and plastic bags litter the house. The two youngest children sleep on the same couch in the living room, because one's bedroom is cluttered, and the other child doesn't even have a bedroom! Nancy, a former nurse, admits to being an extreme hoarder, but how did she and Bob, a former corporate attorney, allow their lives to degenerate to this chaotic clutter? Their home is trashed, and they're in debt $100,000. Could other issues be contributing to the chaos in the house as well? Hear from the three children, 16, 11 and 9, who are trapped in this mess. Are Nancy and Bob finally ready to rescue their family from the rubble before the kids' lives are ruined forever? Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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April 28, 2008, 1:04 pm PDT

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those poor animals, being cooped up like that. where do these people live I am going to call the spca in their area

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April 28, 2008, 1:07 pm PDT

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I cant beleive this situation has gotten as far as it did ! My God it is revolting ! This wack job should be removed from that dirt hole and institutionlizes. Why ?Just why ?didnt anybody who knew about this go forward and turn her in? I PERSONALLY DO NOT BELEIVE FOR ONE SECOND THAT THERE IS CHANGE FOR MISS NANCY! I THINK SOMEONE SHOULD BE CLOSELY MONITORING THIS HOME BECAUSE OF THE CHILDREN . UNBELEIVABLE...

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April 28, 2008, 1:08 pm PDT

sorry, no excuse for these people

OK.......sorry but this one is just making me madder by the minute!! Poor Girl....as a NURSE she knew better than to get hooked on drugs...unless of course she is stupid!! So if she lost her license too bad...I wouldn't want her taking care of anyone in my family anyway. It seem she and her boyfriend have more money than brains. And then to play the "poor-me-I-got-it-so-tough-card", my only sympathy gos to her kids. I can only hope Child Protection removes them to a clean and safe place...far from wacko Mom, and her drunk boyfriend. I deeply resent as a frequent shopper of Lowe's, that they have money to bail out these low-lifes...It would seem they are charging their customes too much if they have money to waste on these people.

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April 28, 2008, 1:09 pm PDT

04/28 A Secret Inside: Extreme Hoarding

maybe i should live like a pig so i can get my home redone. in fact, maybe i can just get a home. makes me sick, these messed up people with all the brains in the world, cant take care of themselves. are we supposed to feel sorry for a damn nurse and lawyer who are nothing but 2 drunks????????? i am single, no siblings, no parents for years, got myslef off drugs and conquered my obesity problem. i live in a studio and work 2 jobs. i am active in my community and who the hell is helping me???????????? i will tell you - myself. all by myself. little old me. hey, dr. phil, can you throw me a bone??????????????? its a dman shame. people like them are the reason this country is on its way down and why the kids i have to teach come to school without basic emotional needs being met adn no damn manners. they make me sick. iam livid right now.

but, then again, a success story like myself wouldnt bring in ratings. cuz i did and do everything myslef without help from anyone. i do need help with my bitter attitude - why dont you do a show about bitches??? i could be the star!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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April 28, 2008, 1:10 pm PDT

no excuse for this

For her to use the excuse that she has had many cirisis in her life is just that an excuse. Many people go through tough things in life and don't do this. My father died and left my mother with 5 childern from the age 6 months to 7 years she didn't make excuses she went out and worked to raise her childern. When are people going to stop making excuses for that bad behavior. I think the drugs might have something to do with her problem and now the drinking isn't helping.

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April 28, 2008, 1:25 pm PDT

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I just don't think it's fair for dr phil to reward this kind of behavior by buying them new things. There are thousands of people in America who work overtime and keep their houses clean and clutter free who cannot afford a new refrigerator when the old one dies. People should not be able to be lazy and wasteful and then receive gifts for that behavior. If they can afford to buy a 3000 sq ft house they cannot live in then they can afford to clean up after themselves. I am glad they are getting help, but it is very expensive to have that much trash taken away. Maybe if they had to spend that money on cleaning and repairing, and the time and energy to manually remove the mold and cat urine, maybe they would think about it next time they want to waste valuable resources. Maybe dr phil could focus on spending that money on people who clean out their refrigerator even though they cannot afford to keep it filled.

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April 28, 2008, 1:26 pm PDT

The Collyer Brothers, world's saddest hoarders

In New York in 1947 a brownstone (NY mansion) belonging to two aged brothers was opened when neighbors reported they hadn't seen them in a long time. It took months to clear out the piled-up newspapers, pianos and years of debris. Both brothers were dead inside. It was in all the newspapers and magazines across the country and worldwide. best-selling novel called "My Brother's Keeper" was written by eminent author Marsha Davenport which was based on the Collyer brothers and how something so crazy-appearing might have happened.

It's a marvelous book. If you can find it, read it and see how she explains what might have happened in their particular case. In reality, no one ever learned the cause for this hoarding.

What causes something like this? This woman is well on her way though her place is much smaller. Thank God she'll get some help, especially that her children will be helped so they can try to live normal lives - though with this pair (the woman and her (?) husband) it's still iffy, with alcoholism in the picture..

There's no excuse for this woman who can't even throw away rotted food or a yogurt cup! She needs mental care.

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April 28, 2008, 1:35 pm PDT

Hoarding

I know a person that hoards. Her house is filled with so much stuff she has little pathways to walk on to navigate the house. Stuff is piled on every piece of furniture and all space on the floor. She used to beg me to come visit her, but I couldn't stay in her house more than an hour before I just had to get out from the claustrobia. She once told me that her first husband used to tell her how dirty her house was. No matter how hard she worked to clean it, he was never satisfied. So she rebelled and didn't clean at all. Now, even though she had been divorced from him more than 30 years, she continues not to clean. She told me that she stopped cleaning and keeping a clean house because that was the only thing he couldn't make her do. Now it's a way of life!

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April 28, 2008, 1:38 pm PDT

Its a battle

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maybe the children will hate clutter and filth after having to live in it with there mother for so many years, i bet they will keep a house clean enough to perform open heart sergury on the kitchen table if they had to.

For me its kind of a war in my head. I do keep my house clean but every time I let something get a little dirty or even really dirty (like I let the dishes go or I have a small pile of stuff that needs to be put away) I constantly wrestle between worrying that I will end up just like my parents but by being oddly comfortable with the fact that its there. I am oddly at peace when I sleep in my bed if it hasn't been made for days and some of my clean clothes are on it, but I also feel as if I have conquered some weird battle when I get into my bed after I have made it, either way messy or clean I have a feeling of ambivalence. Its rather annoying.

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April 28, 2008, 1:39 pm PDT

Great Question

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You are a hoarder. You know it and you consciously hide the fact by keeping people, acquaintences, police, repairmen, etc from inside your house. You know it is wrong and you know it is detrimental to your children. However, when threatened by any authority, you can be motivated to clean up.

Is it a sickness or is it a conscious choice to place blame on everyone else and turn yourself into a victim? If you can clean up under threat of consequences, why can't you clean up for the sake of your children?

The only answer that I can think of is that they care more about their junk than they care about their children. They seem like very self centered people, narcisscistic.

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