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Created on : Friday, April 25, 2008, 03:00:17 pm
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(Original Air Date: 04/29/08) Christina, 21, and her younger sister, Carlie, 13, say they had a close relationship with their father, Michael, until two years ago when he decided to transition to a female. Michael was a police officer, soldier and loving parent who lived his life as a male for 40 years. Now, he wants his daughters to call him Mom, because he says Dad is gone, but they refuse. Michael, who prefers to be called Kayla, says she wants to explain to her daughters why she's living as a woman, but they've never given her the chance. The last time Christina saw her father was two years ago when he showed up at her work in lace and blue jeans to break the news that he's transgendered. When she sees Kayla onstage, does she greet her with open arms? Next, Carlie joins her sister and father. She says she wants her old dad back, but will she feel the same after seeing Kayla? Can the father-daughter bond be turned into a mother-daughter one? Be prepared for an emotional journey as two daughters  struggle to understand how someone they say loved so much could hurt them so badly. Talk about the show here.

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April 29, 2008, 7:51 pm PDT

Interesting point.

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Christina is the one that wrote to Dr Phil.  Michael was perfectly happy living his life the way he chose to live it, with or without his children.  This is the way Michael is and Dr. Phil could see through that.  This letter to Dr. Phil was a cry out for help and it did not come from Michael.  It came from Christina on behalf of her sister Carlie.
It sure seemed that way.  I would like to give her the benefit of the doubt and think she was just paralyzed by fear of rejection and lack of coping skills.

I certainly hope those poor girls get help - too much trama!
 
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April 29, 2008, 7:53 pm PDT

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Are you kidding?  I don't think there is a way to handle it 'perfectly' but frankly, I don't think she could have done it any worse - truly!

"Some emotional issues?"  possibly the understatement of the year.  She needs intensive counseling!  (to be able to handle both her own changes, and to deal with her children)
I'm not saying Kayla handled it well... but I don't think Kayla's fully at fault and I think the girls and mother also need help on handling this situation delicately.
 
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April 29, 2008, 7:54 pm PDT

Let 'em all walk around in dresses

If it would help men be more compassionate, I think maybe what needs to become socially acceptable is men walking around in dresses and wigs.... but cuttin' off your body parts and sodomizing people will never be acceptable in book. That's just pure insanity and it's abusive!
 
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April 29, 2008, 7:55 pm PDT

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Are you kidding?  I don't think there is a way to handle it 'perfectly' but frankly, I don't think she could have done it any worse - truly!

"Some emotional issues?"  possibly the understatement of the year.  She needs intensive counseling!  (to be able to handle both her own changes, and to deal with her children)
 I'm not saying Kayla handled it well... I just don't think Kayla is fully at fault. And really, the girls as well as the mother need help in dealing with the situation a bit better too.
 
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April 29, 2008, 8:01 pm PDT

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     The male genitalia practically has it's own mind... hence the saying "thinking with the little head". I know several friends who get erections when the wind blows right. Getting an erection has nothing to do with being attracted to his wife. Maybe he did it because he loved his wife and wanted her to be happy (giving her a child)... maybe he wanted children himself. There's no way to know what was going on in his/her head when he had said erections.
you know what? i bet your rite in many ways, I'm still trying to compose myself enough to respond to your post here  lol, that part about being attracted to his wife had nothing to do with him getting an erection, you could be correct but i bet it would get erect faster if he were attracted to her, hell one look at her mine just kind of disappeared im still talking to it to tell it every thing is ok it can come back out its safe.as for what was going on inside his head well maybe he better ask that other head how it feels about being removed before he goes through all that.
 
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April 29, 2008, 8:04 pm PDT

Is There Something He's Not Telling...

 

 

His detachment seems weird to most.  I may not be good at explaining it...but I've been there.  Not the gender transformation but the detachment.  Years later I was diagnosed with PTSD. Post traumatic Stress Disorder.   Sometimes the detachment is so severe that people start believing a PTSD person just does not care... It may be important to understand and identify it...Specially since we are getting ready to welcome back home our young men and women who went off to war.

Getting back to today's Gender transformed Father... I got a glimpse of something when he explained that as a female officer he would not be attacked on the streets.  And that to the contrary that same person under questioning by a male officer may find it offensive to physically attack a  female officer. I can't help but to wonder if he was attacked while on duty and never had a real chance to work it through. I believe there should be a close follow up with him....His detachment could easily be suicidal at this point... It is not unlikely that he sees the world around him like as if he is looking through a glass...unable to feel what is on the other side of the glass...hugs, kisses, the warmth of the sun, the wind...emotions, etc.  I'm not a Dr...I speak from first hand experience of the detachment I saw on TV tonight...

 
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April 29, 2008, 8:05 pm PDT

LIFE IS NEVER, EVER EASY...

I am very upset by the way KAYLA was treated.  Everyone acted like KAYLA wanted to & set out to intentionally hurt her children. Maybe all of you should walk a mile in my shoes...I am married to a woman, now Suzy who WAS MY HUSBAND, GEORGE for 30 years until 2003 when she felt our sons were old enough to understand that she could no longer carry on as George & needed to become SUZY, a whole woman with the surgery in Canada and my full support.  THINK about this for a couple of minutes...If your husband went to war and was shot in his privates and could not perform as your husband any longer would you love him less for that?  ALSO, what if he was in a horrible accident and then had to have surgery transforming his face and body to someone else that didn't look like your husband anymore but was on the inside???  I have stayed with my transgender spouse, from George all through the way to the new exterior person, Suzy.  My family at first thought it was a joke, but sooned learned that it was a true story and they have been truly accepting of her.  We will be married 35 years this November 2008.  I don't think my kids have ever understood why I have stayed with my spouse, Suzy but I still love her and she loves me, too.  She was thrilled that I didn't divorce her when it all came out.  I thought about my children first, but I also had to consider what that would teach my children about people because they are different or not the same as others in this world.  Sometimes for my children, I wonder if I did the wrong thing by staying, but personally I NEVER, EVER regret my decision to stay with my wife, SUZY. 

 

Unless you are walking a mile in my shoes, you have no idea what I have been through.  I worked for  a branch of the armed forces on an armed forces base and believe me, it was not easy to listen to all the remarks I heard and the aggrevation I had to endure after they all found out my husband became my wife.  Not many of them understood, but most of them accepted it because they were truly my friends. Now all of my family and Suzy's family have accepted it and embrace the fact that we are staying together.  Our relationship is different since we are no longer man and wife, but we still love each other and hopefully only the people who are small minded in this world will judge us as after all,"ONLY GOD HAS THE RIGHT TO JUDGE ANYONE". 

 

Dr Phil, where was all that compassion that you usually show for people in any other situation? If you would be willing I would love to come on your show and explain how our family is still trying to work through this situation.  It is an everyday work in progress. I wish KAYLA and her children all the best as we are on the other side of this situation since we have two sons and no daughters. I feel unless you have been there you have no idea how this can destroy a family or you try to help keep your family together.

 

GOD BLESS YOU all for at least giving me the opportunity to say my point of view.  I am glad we live in a county where it is still free to do whatever works for you even if others don't agree.

 
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April 29, 2008, 8:06 pm PDT

Disgusting and disgusted

I am watching the "Daddy Drama" show right now and cannot help being disgusted by this "Daddy" and what he is so smugly putting his heartbroken children through. Every time I see him sitting there pursing his lips while his eldest daughter tries to relate her feelings, I want to smack his dumb ass! What he is trying to portray, he can never be. There is only one way to become a woman and that is to be BORN female! Just as there is only one way to become a man. He cannot whack of his genitals and automatically become a woman, nor could simply dressing in female clothing define him as one. It is an absolute insult to womanhood for him and anyone like him to be called a woman. His former wives and his daughters have every right to all the feelings and disgust they conveyed! Everytime he or Dr. Phil referred to him turning from man to woman pissed me off. There is so much more to being a woman that he can never become. THERE IS NO SUCH THING FOR A MAN TO TURN INTO A WOMAN JUST LIKE THERE IS NO SUCH THING FOR A WOMAN TO TURN INTO A MAN! The only way to truly discribing him would be transgendered male - not as woman. I have absolutely no sympathy for what his pea-sized mind is tellling him - he will never be a woman!  
 
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April 29, 2008, 8:13 pm PDT

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Quote From: strive2bbetter

This man is not gay. He never said he was gay. That would be an assumption. He is having an identity crisis however. He would simply like to be able to be as compassionate and understanding as a woman. Many people are lacking in this regard.... I theorize that if everyone had more compassion and understanding.... there would be a lot less gay people walking around.
i agree with you on the part about, if he were gay he would be having sex with other men, wait he could be a lesbian, hes a woman but hes been having sex with other women hasn't he ,yeah thats rite, damn this gay stuff is so damn confusing, but thank god we have all these gifted surgeons to solve all this for us, they can swap all them parts to whear there suppose to be, and that will fix this problem wont it?. i guess only time will tell, so until we have a show with the results of all this i don't think it matters if they want to swap parts, its OK with me as long as the doctors arnt getting those parts from me.
 
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April 29, 2008, 8:15 pm PDT

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I am very upset by the way KAYLA was treated.  Everyone acted like KAYLA wanted to & set out to intentionally hurt her children. Maybe all of you should walk a mile in my shoes...I am married to a woman, now Suzy who WAS MY HUSBAND, GEORGE for 30 years until 2003 when she felt our sons were old enough to understand that she could no longer carry on as George & needed to become SUZY, a whole woman with the surgery in Canada and my full support.  THINK about this for a couple of minutes...If your husband went to war and was shot in his privates and could not perform as your husband any longer would you love him less for that?  ALSO, what if he was in a horrible accident and then had to have surgery transforming his face and body to someone else that didn't look like your husband anymore but was on the inside???  I have stayed with my transgender spouse, from George all through the way to the new exterior person, Suzy.  My family at first thought it was a joke, but sooned learned that it was a true story and they have been truly accepting of her.  We will be married 35 years this November 2008.  I don't think my kids have ever understood why I have stayed with my spouse, Suzy but I still love her and she loves me, too.  She was thrilled that I didn't divorce her when it all came out.  I thought about my children first, but I also had to consider what that would teach my children about people because they are different or not the same as others in this world.  Sometimes for my children, I wonder if I did the wrong thing by staying, but personally I NEVER, EVER regret my decision to stay with my wife, SUZY. 

 

Unless you are walking a mile in my shoes, you have no idea what I have been through.  I worked for  a branch of the armed forces on an armed forces base and believe me, it was not easy to listen to all the remarks I heard and the aggrevation I had to endure after they all found out my husband became my wife.  Not many of them understood, but most of them accepted it because they were truly my friends. Now all of my family and Suzy's family have accepted it and embrace the fact that we are staying together.  Our relationship is different since we are no longer man and wife, but we still love each other and hopefully only the people who are small minded in this world will judge us as after all,"ONLY GOD HAS THE RIGHT TO JUDGE ANYONE". 

 

Dr Phil, where was all that compassion that you usually show for people in any other situation? If you would be willing I would love to come on your show and explain how our family is still trying to work through this situation.  It is an everyday work in progress. I wish KAYLA and her children all the best as we are on the other side of this situation since we have two sons and no daughters. I feel unless you have been there you have no idea how this can destroy a family or you try to help keep your family together.

 

GOD BLESS YOU all for at least giving me the opportunity to say my point of view.  I am glad we live in a county where it is still free to do whatever works for you even if others don't agree.

Thank you so much, I'm like is everyone going to trash this guy, I feel like like everyone in the audience and even Dr.Phil thought he was disgusting.  I'm disgusted by the way he was treated. 
 
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