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Created on : Friday, April 25, 2008, 03:00:17 pm
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(Original Air Date: 04/29/08) Christina, 21, and her younger sister, Carlie, 13, say they had a close relationship with their father, Michael, until two years ago when he decided to transition to a female. Michael was a police officer, soldier and loving parent who lived his life as a male for 40 years. Now, he wants his daughters to call him Mom, because he says Dad is gone, but they refuse. Michael, who prefers to be called Kayla, says she wants to explain to her daughters why she's living as a woman, but they've never given her the chance. The last time Christina saw her father was two years ago when he showed up at her work in lace and blue jeans to break the news that he's transgendered. When she sees Kayla onstage, does she greet her with open arms? Next, Carlie joins her sister and father. She says she wants her old dad back, but will she feel the same after seeing Kayla? Can the father-daughter bond be turned into a mother-daughter one? Be prepared for an emotional journey as two daughters  struggle to understand how someone they say loved so much could hurt them so badly. Talk about the show here.

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April 30, 2008, 9:12 pm PDT

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You show me that sex reassignment surgery is insane and I'll buy.

 
You are rather like my husband. I am completely unable to have a serious conversation with you. You are just making this into one big joke.
 
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April 30, 2008, 9:17 pm PDT

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You are rather like my husband. I am completely unable to have a serious conversation with you. You are just making this into one big joke.
I am completely serious.

You explain to me how it is "insane" and I will believe you. Show me studies or research or something that shows this is "insane".
 
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April 30, 2008, 9:17 pm PDT

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You are rather like my husband. I am completely unable to have a serious conversation with you. You are just making this into one big joke.
BTW, did you see my post where I told you that I AM married and have been for nearly 9 years?
 
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April 30, 2008, 9:24 pm PDT

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And I understand that, and it's appreciated in it's way.

However, and don't take this the wrong way. I am a BIG GIRL LOL. I even OWN a vagina, I can handle reading about them.

 
thank you penny it sounds like ownership of one of those is wonderful, i hope Dr Phil does a follow up of this show after kayla has had his parts reworked, hell who knows if its refundable i may go try it out to see why i see so many men going in for one, good luck with yours. and i wont take that the wrong way i know what you mean by your a big girl, your not talking about your weight, and if you were that dont bother me nether, i like big people too,
 
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April 30, 2008, 9:30 pm PDT

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Do you behave like this when you hear someone is getting a boob job then?
 you know what? Kayla looked like he had a very good start on his boobs,and all he has done so far was take hormones, i couldn't believe that a man could grow those that way, now thats something, i always thought when men went in to switch plumbing  they had to have implants, do you think his were real? i know when i was a little kid my sisters use to use toilet paper in their bra's to make it look like their boobs were bigger,
 
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April 30, 2008, 9:38 pm PDT

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 you know what? Kayla looked like he had a very good start on his boobs,and all he has done so far was take hormones, i couldn't believe that a man could grow those that way, now thats something, i always thought when men went in to switch plumbing  they had to have implants, do you think his were real? i know when i was a little kid my sisters use to use toilet paper in their bra's to make it look like their boobs were bigger,
They said that they were Kayla's natural breasts. Men can grow breast tissue, men can get breast cancer and some men can even lactate.
 
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April 30, 2008, 9:39 pm PDT

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I am completely serious.

You explain to me how it is "insane" and I will believe you. Show me studies or research or something that shows this is "insane".
I cannot show you studies or research. All I can do is advise you to use your head. As soon as that baby is coming home from the hospital they are covered with either blue or pink, then they see the violence in cartoons which are typically men being violent, while the girls are told to play with their dolls, then they look around at the adults and try to fit into the "role" they are supposed to be... your parents and all of your influence around you sets your stage.... children are sponges. Parents really need to redefine their "roles." Teach them right from wrong. Parents need to start becoming respectful of each other and they need to be independent and both capable people.... and once they reach that wonderful position... it will be incredibly easy to raise the children because there will be a "teamwork" environment.

Right basically is... be honest, be considerate, be appreciative, be caring, have empathy, stand up for yourself without minimizing someone... it is really a delicate balance. But, parents need to start caring about each other before everything else will start falling into place.
 
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April 30, 2008, 10:00 pm PDT

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I cannot show you studies or research. All I can do is advise you to use your head. As soon as that baby is coming home from the hospital they are covered with either blue or pink, then they see the violence in cartoons which are typically men being violent, while the girls are told to play with their dolls, then they look around at the adults and try to fit into the "role" they are supposed to be... your parents and all of your influence around you sets your stage.... children are sponges. Parents really need to redefine their "roles." Teach them right from wrong. Parents need to start becoming respectful of each other and they need to be independent and both capable people.... and once they reach that wonderful position... it will be incredibly easy to raise the children because there will be a "teamwork" environment.

Right basically is... be honest, be considerate, be appreciative, be caring, have empathy, stand up for yourself without minimizing someone... it is really a delicate balance. But, parents need to start caring about each other before everything else will start falling into place.
I AM using my head, just because you and I come to different conclusions doesn't mean you have some monopoly on "using your head".

ALL of what you said has absolutely NOTHING to do what what I asked you. Not one thing. I agree, kids are sponges. I have a child myself, I can SEE that.

However, none of this has to do with my question.
 
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April 30, 2008, 10:00 pm PDT

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I really do feel bad for the girls. They did not ask for this. It seems to me that the dad is very selfish. From the show today, It does not seem to me that the dad has had any therapy during the transition. He was angry that the girls did not understand. If there had been therapy for him BEFORE the transition he would have learned how to tell the girls what it felt like to be him and know how to approach them and help with their feelings. Not just showing up and the office as a woman. I would have been so emabrassed. And what is with just calling the youngest. Not even a face to face conversation.  He showed absolutely no empathy to the girls.

 

BTW... In my area there are transgenders that meet with advisors on how to dress, walk, act, and how to do hair and makeup. Dad could certainly benefit from that.

 
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April 30, 2008, 10:04 pm PDT

Sorry gotta go....

Honestly, I'm in a desperate situation myself. I am in a separation and I have 3 and 4 year old daughters. My husband and I need to learn how to treat each other with mutual respect which I continue to advocate for.... he just ignores me and treats me like I'm some sort of dirt under his shoe.

He is a typical male dominating figure. He feels his "role" is to be in "control" of the family and I keep trying to convince him that is not his role. His role is to be my partner and for us to provide each other with mutual respect. However, he will not listen to me... because that would bring him into a place of vulnerability.....

It goes against everything he has ever learned. He is supposed to be the guiding force in our family... that is not what he needs to be, We need to work together and listen to each other, be considerate of each other, and try to understand one another's perspectives.

I'm a pretty "tough chic" I am capable... I can cut the grass and use a drill... this is necessary in a good relationship. Both parties need to be capable and not be dependent upon one another. That is what is necessary to build a teamwork environement.

Battery power is out... gotta go!
 
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