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Topic : 08/04 Daddy Drama

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Created on : Friday, April 25, 2008, 03:00:17 pm
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(Original Air Date: 04/29/08) Christina, 21, and her younger sister, Carlie, 13, say they had a close relationship with their father, Michael, until two years ago when he decided to transition to a female. Michael was a police officer, soldier and loving parent who lived his life as a male for 40 years. Now, he wants his daughters to call him Mom, because he says Dad is gone, but they refuse. Michael, who prefers to be called Kayla, says she wants to explain to her daughters why she's living as a woman, but they've never given her the chance. The last time Christina saw her father was two years ago when he showed up at her work in lace and blue jeans to break the news that he's transgendered. When she sees Kayla onstage, does she greet her with open arms? Next, Carlie joins her sister and father. She says she wants her old dad back, but will she feel the same after seeing Kayla? Can the father-daughter bond be turned into a mother-daughter one? Be prepared for an emotional journey as two daughters  struggle to understand how someone they say loved so much could hurt them so badly. Talk about the show here.

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April 29, 2008, 12:48 pm PDT

04/29 Daddy Dramas

Dr Phil I am so very disappointed at your apparent one-sidedness with this story.  That daughter is 21 years old, she's an adult !!!   Dad has as much right to go abou this life and does she !!  I'm throoughly disappointed you didn't tell that young lady to grow up!
 
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April 29, 2008, 12:48 pm PDT

I AGREE

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I cannot imagine the anguish these children are going through. That "man" is a sorry excuse for a human being. He was born male, he should stay that way. GOD does not make mistakes. I cried the whole time I watched this show, my heart aches for these innocent children.
I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   short and sweet and to the point!!! This show outrages me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!     HE IS DISGUSTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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April 29, 2008, 12:48 pm PDT

I agree

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These children are being selfish. All their lives their father worked hard to provide for them and see to their every need. The very LEAST they can do to return all the love and devotion he gave them as a father figure is to accept him the way he has always accepted them--their quirks, their youthful indescretions--and love him no matter what.

It's not like gender changes aren't mainstream now. Thousands of people have made this change. It's time we all stop being selfish in what WE want, and start realizing that life doesn't revolve around each one of us... it just revolves, and we need to accept change when it happens. Why throw away a loving parent just because we have to look at them differently, and call him by MOM instead of DAD? The heart is still the same, and so is the love for the family.

Time to grow up.
 

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April 29, 2008, 12:48 pm PDT

Seriously Dr.Phil?

While this topic does affect the children, they are not the only victims, like Kayla mentioned.  S/he WILL be victimized for the rest of her life for choosing to live her life in a way that is bareable.  These children need to be educated on the issue of transgendered individuals, and maybe their outlook will be a little less bleak.   The eldest child REALLY needs this help and she is very close minded and comes across as rather discriminatory.  From her reactions about "just changing back", I don't doubt that if the situation was a little different and say, her "father" was homosexual, then she would STILL be unhappy with him, and expect him to just "be straight". 

It is clear these girls will never accpet their father as a woman, and they will continue to refuse a relationship with Kayla as long as she is living the life she is.

As for Dr. Phil (AND the audience who needs to stop clapping for ridiculous comments!), I wish you would stand for the issue of transgendered individuals and help these girls understand what is really going on. 

 
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April 29, 2008, 12:51 pm PDT

04/29 Daddy Dramas

 For those who are being judgemental with these daughters and their feelings, I have one thing to say. Shut up. You have no right to judge their experience. My ex husband had a sex change op several years ago. Before his "transition" my 3 daughters were all happy, hard working career and college girls with their own apartments, good lives, and felt secure in their relationships.

Now, since the transition, which was announced 6 months before the operations took place, I am left to deal with a drug addict who lost jobs and an apartment, another daughter who can't form a normal satisfying relationship with any man because she doesn't trust any of them, and a daughter who quit college despite being a scholarship graduate student at an Ivy League university, and moved as far away from home as she could to become a grocery store clerk.

My daughters are human beings too. Quit magnifying the father and his feelings. These children didn't ask to be born, but since they have, don't invalidate their feelings. They are not being selfish. They were taught BY THEIR FATHER that he would always be there for them. He lied. He now wants to be their "friend" Don't you see how that could mess a child up?
 
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April 29, 2008, 12:51 pm PDT

unconditional loves means nonjudgement

It is not the outside of the cup that defiles a man ,,,it is the inside.
Who gives a rip about what he does to the outside...allow him to be who he is....
that is called unconditional love.

The selfish girls cannot demand the father be something he is not...that is selfish and judgemental. If they loved their father they would want him to be happy.

 
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April 29, 2008, 12:51 pm PDT

selfish daughters

i honestly am disgusted at how these girls are treating their father. they have NO idea how it was for this man to live his whole life feeling as though he was in the wrong body.

the younger daughter seems to be being persuaded by her older sister that this is wrong and to hate her father. the older daughter needs to relax, quit her snide remarks and try her hardest to understand how hard her fathers life has been.

if anything, these girls should look at their father as an inspiration, and they should feel happy know somebody that has undergone such a serious change in his life.

dr. phil seemed very rude to Michaela, he doesn't know either how it has been for them at home. this poor man (woman) has been dealing with this for a long time and is probably sick and tired of the remarks from his daughters. this man was in NO way rude to his daughters or anything, he just seems sick of their remarks.
 
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April 29, 2008, 12:52 pm PDT

Daddy now Makala

I'm sorry, but you can't tell me that those girls haven't been coached. They can't even cry for real. The father has done exactly as he should have. Those girls, except for the 12 year old one, are to old for child support. They've been coached by their mother, guarntee it. And for Dr. Phil judge him, just gets my goat. Dr. Phil, you ought to be asshamed of yourself. You've never been his shoes, or have you? He is their father, no doubt, but the kids are being very selfish with him. He's been there for them for many many years and now it's his time to be what he's supposed to be. If the kids are ashamed of him so much, why are they on national television with him. Wouldn't the distantance themselves as far as possible from him, shun him from their lives? That's how I can tell it's the mother's doing for all this hoop-la. She's wanting the attention, and her back child support cause he looks better then she does. Plus she probably can't get a date looking like she does. Dr. Phil, you should have seen straight thru this scam. Are topics getting that low for you all to have to air such a program?

Dan

 
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April 29, 2008, 12:55 pm PDT

Entitlement Issues

I would rather have my dad be trans than the jerkface he is.
 
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April 29, 2008, 12:55 pm PDT

Come On Dr. Phil

I think this show has really missed its targets on all fronts.  There seems to be no advocate for this father and no dialog to try to help these girls understand what it means to have a gender identity crisis.  I would not suspect many people would be strong enough to endure the emotional, psychological, social and physical pain that comes with accepting yourself and allowing yourself to procede to be your 'authentic' self.  I mean come on Dr. Phil - isn't this suppose to be your mantra??

 

I understand these girls being upset, even devestated by the loss of who they knew as their father but no good is going to come from ignoring the fact that what's done is done, the process of change is well underway and the best chance for healing now is to try to have them understand and accept the change and what that means for their future relationship if they are willing to participate in making that happen.

 

Having watched someone go through this process, I can vouch for the fact that this is no walk in the park and the amount of hormonal medication required to achieve the goal of transformation indeed reaks havoc on the whole body, including the mind which can cause the appearance of indifference, but is simply a side effect of bio-chemical changes.  It is mind-numbing during a great portion of it's course.  It causes memory and focus problems, mood swings, over-reaction and under-reaction. 

 

I do attribute part of this father's attitude to the fact that it must seem like nobody is trying to validate him and nobody is offering him the proper tools to resolve this situation with his daughters and finally the help needed to help the girls understand this really isn't a choice and they must accept and try to support him.  All that was accomplished here was to discount everything he has done to date and more than likely drive a more permanent wedge between himself and his daughters.  It's a real shame.

 

I am disappointed in every aspect of this show!!  A complete miss!

 
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