Topic : 08/04 Daddy Drama

Yes, the girls are understandably upset, and yes, their "father" showed little emotion in her voice or body language throughout the show.  But Dr. Phil didn't get passed that.  I believe that people who are in "the wrong body" suffer from a birth defect just as surely as if they had a physical deformity.  I kept waiting for Dr. Phil to say, "OK. Now that we're in this situation, now what are we going to do?"  He never did.  Instead, he told "dad" that he went about the change the wrong way.  OK.  That's water under the bridge.  Now where do the girls and their "dad" go from here?

How can anyone pass judgement on this man?  He was miserable for years, playing a role to enable him to fit into society.  He just wants to be happy and you can't blame him for that.  Come on, get off the guy's back.  I realize this was a shock to the daughters, but I'd think they would want their father to be happy.

Maybe this man didn't handle this in the best way, but what is the BEST WAY?  If he had informed his daughters beforehand, I doubt they would have been any more supportive.  Give the guy a break!  They've never walked in his shoes.

I feel so bad for those two girls, what a thing to have to deal with. I hope they will work through it, as best as possible, for their sakes in the future. A daughter's view of their father reflects how they will view their future relationships. Talk about a serious case of rejection here, WOW! I pray that they will turn out alright and well adjusted. They both are incredibly beautiful girls and don't deserve this. To see the pain in their eyes and the pain in their voices made me weep and I'm a grown man with no attachment to these girls at all. I don't understand how the "dad" can sit their stone faced and unemotional while his girls cry out with pain and for understanding. I have girls, one who's 21 like Christina, and I just don't get it. Christina's poem made me cry and I'm not even her dad. Seeing that episode makes me want to scoop those girls up in my arms and comfort them and tell them it's going to be alright. I would be honored to have 2 beautiful and educated girls like that as my daughters. No matter what I was going through as a father I would never subject my girls to that kind of treatment or lack of compassion. The pain in Christina just killed me, she lost her dad for crying out loud. He's being INCREDIBLY selfish. Even if it meant that he dressed, acted and generally was a man while with them and lived as a woman the other 90+ percent of the time would be better than this. He might think that's selling out or not being true to himself, but who's being true to those girls? Certainly not their dad. I think that would be a good compromise for him. He can still live as a woman in his life, but those girls deserve their dad in their lives.  Sure it would be a little inconvenient for him, but those girls are worth it.

after watching it today i have to say ain't it a bit late to want to change now? or maybe waiting until his daughter the 13 year old was grown would have been a much better move!! it don't bother me either way what he wants to be, but the child's feelings and concerns about what her friends thought about her family should have overridden every thought of his personal feelings about him self,after waiting for 40 years what difference would have a few more years made?

poor Dr Phil has been missing allot of boat rides from what i have read on this topic board in the past few years, i hope he didn't pay too much for the tickets, or maybe just bad weather kept him at home and he couldn't get to the docks in time before the ship set sail, any ways what ever his reason i hope he makes it to the docks in time for the next trip he books.

Let me ask you......then because I am just curios...

 

Did you try increasing the hormones that you were born to have?

 

What kind of phsycological help did you have?

 

How can you know that you feel like the opposite sex when in fact you are the sex you are?

 

This, dysmorphia....explain it...

 

I mean were you drawn to the clothes....the lifestyle....same sex....already had effeminate or masculine behavior????

 

Seriously....explain what it is like.....I REALLY want to understand this....

 

 

   OK, so you have to live a lie for awhile and work a normal job dressed as the sex that you were born with. While you are doing that, save the money that you need for the surgery that you want so you can finally be happy. Don't blame society for not accepting a man dressed as a woman working as a secretary for a law office, etc. .

   I'm sure that the unemployment rate is very high for someone in your position but you do have options. You just refuse to choose them because you call it living a lie. Well, if that is your stand, then do not complain about the unemployment rate for trans-genders. Are you understanding my point here? Live the lie for a little while, save money, and then live the life that you want and then you will have the ability to find gainful employment. Don't take this out on us, society, we all have problems and have to find our own way through them.  

This is an extremely complicated situation at many levels and I don't pretend to understand it nor am I in a position to judge.  I can understand all the feelings of everyone involved BUT  I do have to say that the older daughter in particular is a whiny baby -- in a day in age when kids of this age have long been aware of gender issues it surprises me that she is not a little more understanding or at least willing to accept things - she may not like it but I think she is cold and callous.

I understand this issue to an extent, but since I don't have the disorder I can't say I can really get all of it.

I am disappointed that Dr. Phil hasn't stepped up to explain gender dysmorphia and side with the father more.  Any person is the psychological field worth his salt understands and can defend and explain this issue.

The girls have a point to a certain extent, but they seem like selfish little girls given their ages.  There is more to this issue that what they call the person who is their father.  They would rather have him dead as a man than alive and somewhat happier as a woman?!  That's the height of selfishness.  I wish Dr. Phil would dig into them and set them straight.

I hate to tell the older girl, but she has her father's last name, he doesn't have hers.  She's way too old to be as stupid and immature as she sounds on this show.

 

COM'ON DOCTOR PHIL!!  Address those girls and make them stop attacking their father for his disorder.  Are you just not able to do it?  You should help these people and you are just sitting there like a bump on a log.