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Topic : 08/04 Daddy Drama

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Created on : Friday, April 25, 2008, 03:00:17 pm
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(Original Air Date: 04/29/08) Christina, 21, and her younger sister, Carlie, 13, say they had a close relationship with their father, Michael, until two years ago when he decided to transition to a female. Michael was a police officer, soldier and loving parent who lived his life as a male for 40 years. Now, he wants his daughters to call him Mom, because he says Dad is gone, but they refuse. Michael, who prefers to be called Kayla, says she wants to explain to her daughters why she's living as a woman, but they've never given her the chance. The last time Christina saw her father was two years ago when he showed up at her work in lace and blue jeans to break the news that he's transgendered. When she sees Kayla onstage, does she greet her with open arms? Next, Carlie joins her sister and father. She says she wants her old dad back, but will she feel the same after seeing Kayla? Can the father-daughter bond be turned into a mother-daughter one? Be prepared for an emotional journey as two daughters  struggle to understand how someone they say loved so much could hurt them so badly. Talk about the show here.

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April 29, 2008, 8:37 pm PDT

The girls cried

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compassion, understanding, and care for this person sitting across from them????

 

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

"Eeewwwwww, you're gross!"

"I don't even know you"

" You're dead to me"

(AND, they're the ones who called into the show!)

 

This show , to me, did not help either parties. IMO

 

To me, there is NO telling what this guy (dad) is feeling on the inside

and, somewhat feel the  same way w/ these girls.

 

 

The girls at least cried. He/she sat there like some sort of robot.
 
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April 29, 2008, 8:38 pm PDT

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The girls at least cried. He/she sat there like some sort of robot.
And .....so? THAT is a sign of emotional issues as much as CRYING is.

What is your point?
 
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April 29, 2008, 8:42 pm PDT

Get with it

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I just wanted to say that there is no way we can understand the torment this man has been going through for 40 years.  This must of been a burden in his heart everyday.  I can understand the girls being "disgusted" and confused.  I really hope that doctor Phil, and the help that will follow, will really help them all to understand what each one is going through and why.  The main thing I hope the girls will realize, their Dad's heart and love for them is TOTALLY the same.  It may even be able to get stronger now because thier Dad feels better about himself.  It's hard to love others when you  don't love yourself.  I REALLY hope they can all move on and just concentrate on the love they have for eachother.  After all, that's REALLY all that matters in life.  Our love for others and a family's love is the  strongest and most supportive kind.  Please move forward and DON'T loose each other over this.
This so called man or women does not want any help.  He/She thinks she knows it all.   As far as loving these girls he sure had a stupid way of showing it.
 
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April 29, 2008, 8:47 pm PDT

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I agree, this show was all around unsatisfying...these people don't need to be on a national TV show, they need to be sitting down with a family therapist.
I agree
 
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April 29, 2008, 8:47 pm PDT

My Heart Goes Out To YOU!

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I am very upset by the way KAYLA was treated.  Everyone acted like KAYLA wanted to & set out to intentionally hurt her children. Maybe all of you should walk a mile in my shoes...I am married to a woman, now Suzy who WAS MY HUSBAND, GEORGE for 30 years until 2003 when she felt our sons were old enough to understand that she could no longer carry on as George & needed to become SUZY, a whole woman with the surgery in Canada and my full support.  THINK about this for a couple of minutes...If your husband went to war and was shot in his privates and could not perform as your husband any longer would you love him less for that?  ALSO, what if he was in a horrible accident and then had to have surgery transforming his face and body to someone else that didn't look like your husband anymore but was on the inside???  I have stayed with my transgender spouse, from George all through the way to the new exterior person, Suzy.  My family at first thought it was a joke, but sooned learned that it was a true story and they have been truly accepting of her.  We will be married 35 years this November 2008.  I don't think my kids have ever understood why I have stayed with my spouse, Suzy but I still love her and she loves me, too.  She was thrilled that I didn't divorce her when it all came out.  I thought about my children first, but I also had to consider what that would teach my children about people because they are different or not the same as others in this world.  Sometimes for my children, I wonder if I did the wrong thing by staying, but personally I NEVER, EVER regret my decision to stay with my wife, SUZY. 

 

Unless you are walking a mile in my shoes, you have no idea what I have been through.  I worked for  a branch of the armed forces on an armed forces base and believe me, it was not easy to listen to all the remarks I heard and the aggrevation I had to endure after they all found out my husband became my wife.  Not many of them understood, but most of them accepted it because they were truly my friends. Now all of my family and Suzy's family have accepted it and embrace the fact that we are staying together.  Our relationship is different since we are no longer man and wife, but we still love each other and hopefully only the people who are small minded in this world will judge us as after all,"ONLY GOD HAS THE RIGHT TO JUDGE ANYONE". 

 

Dr Phil, where was all that compassion that you usually show for people in any other situation? If you would be willing I would love to come on your show and explain how our family is still trying to work through this situation.  It is an everyday work in progress. I wish KAYLA and her children all the best as we are on the other side of this situation since we have two sons and no daughters. I feel unless you have been there you have no idea how this can destroy a family or you try to help keep your family together.

 

GOD BLESS YOU all for at least giving me the opportunity to say my point of view.  I am glad we live in a county where it is still free to do whatever works for you even if others don't agree.

Thank you for posting about your experience.  It truly is remarkable and I can't help but to sense the love you have for this person at your side. I just wish more people were like that!! I've been following the Eckhart Tolle & Oprah book discussions on "A new Earth"...The love you explain above goes to the deeper sense of who this person at your side truly is...beyond gender...beyond "role" identifications...

Kayla's  whole family needs therapy.  There is no doubt about that...but in order to move on...perhaps a deeper understanding of what Eckhart Tolle writes in his book is also necessary. Thank you for sharing and continue to love...You know first hand how it all fell into place...eventually all family members accepted the situation...even those who were initially scared. When we follow that deeper stillness that tells us it is OK to still love...everything else falls right into place. 

 
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April 29, 2008, 8:49 pm PDT

He Can't Cry!!

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And .....so? THAT is a sign of emotional issues as much as CRYING is.

What is your point?
Sometimes trauma...makes us so detached...we can't even feel anything anymore...It's just a way to survive.
 
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April 29, 2008, 8:50 pm PDT

My point is...

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And .....so? THAT is a sign of emotional issues as much as CRYING is.

What is your point?
I even cried after listening to the poem she wrote. He hasn't seen his daughter in a couple of years and this has obviously been tormenting her enough to write a poem and he feels nothing..... it is a problem when you are unable to feel anything for the people you love. She poured her heart out to him and he didn't bat an eyelash. He's robotic in nature.
 
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April 29, 2008, 8:51 pm PDT

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Sometimes trauma...makes us so detached...we can't even feel anything anymore...It's just a way to survive.
Yeah, exactly.
 
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April 29, 2008, 8:55 pm PDT

He is a Being

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It's not confusing when you look at it on a one by one basis...trying to understand everyone and trying to put everyone into two slots "straight" and "gay" won't work.
A human being...!!
 
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April 29, 2008, 8:55 pm PDT

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I even cried after listening to the poem she wrote. He hasn't seen his daughter in a couple of years and this has obviously been tormenting her enough to write a poem and he feels nothing..... it is a problem when you are unable to feel anything for the people you love. She poured her heart out to him and he didn't bat an eyelash. He's robotic in nature.
You have no idea how she FEELS...only how she publicly portrayed those feelings.

Don't you think that is a sign of emotional problems? Don't you think that deserves SOME compassion? You claim to care so much about "female compassion"...well?
 
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