Topic : 08/04 Daddy Drama

Yup it does, it causes them to commit suicide. Sad isn't it Penny.

I walked away from this discussion some time ago because some get it some don't. People think everything is back and white in this earth and yet all throughout nature variations happen. Because we are human being, apparently we are immune to the same mutations that are seen in nature. We see dozens of issues with Gender and sexuality beyond just this one, including women who have XY men who have xx and some even have variations like XXY

It's easy to say this is wrong or that's wrong and pass judgment on someone else's life. It's easier than looking within ourselves and fixing our own problems. I lived this and I still am, I've had gender dysphoria since my earliest memories. It's done so much emotional damage trying to live the way society built the box I'm supposed to fit into. To the point that if I had to live the way a lot of you have deemed me to then I might as well just have killed myself like my original intent. But that wasn't the right answer for me.

I took the hard route, I chose life but I chose to get help for this, In getting help the path was set in front of me by my Dr's and that is what I have to abide by for treatment to live. That doesn't mean living in one gender part time to appease some because that violates the standards of care put forth by the medical community.

I've heard we need therapy not surgery. I've had 3 years of therapy and the only known cure is transition. Dr's are the gatekeepers of transition and to get there means living full time and doing hormone therapy.

It does damage to the mind to have such a conflict of opinion. Dr's tell us that transition is the only known sure, society tells us to stay the sex we were born as. So do I take medical advice from my neighbor or my Dr?

The truth in this show is simple. Dr Phil dropped the ball and most of all Kayla dropped the ball.

Dr Phil should have explained the hows, whys and what's of this condition and why it is medically necessary and YES it is NECESSARY!

Kayla has dropped the ball in so many ways. Not financially supporting her girls, Not getting them invovled with therapy so they understood what was going on and help them deal. Working to stay in their life.

We get the word tselfish thrown at us all to often in transition. It is selfish to expect someone to live miserable because they don't undertstand their feelings and emotions about who they are. Transisition is not selfish it is simply survival... .

Selfish is not supporting your children and getting your nails done. Selfish is not getting your children help because yours is more important to you. Please don't lump all TG people into one big ball because of a few bad ones...

Lastly I've read that I'm not supposed to have had children because of my Gender Dysporia. How sad people must be if they assume all families end up in tattered ruins because of this. I have a beautiful wife who has taken the time to talk to my Dr's and learn about why I need this and she stands beside me, she is my best friend and my soulmate. I have a 23 yr old daughter that not only supports me, she likes me much better the way I am now. She also likes the fact that her dad is still alive instead of dead. Lastly I have a beautiful granddaughter I am watching grow, that would have never happened if I followed the jugemental people . I love everyone in my family dearly and I know I'm loved. I would have nevber found that out if I lived the narrow path that some people expect .....

BTW and I know you said this unintentionally so I'm pointing this out in a general way and not directly at you.

I'm not out to fool people, I'm out to educate them so I try to be as honest as I can about this subject. I think a lot of mainstream societies fear revolves around the idea that trans people are trying to "fool" them and I assure people this isn't the case. We are just trying to get from point A to point B happy and healthy. Mosty of all we want to be productive contributing members of society. In order to do that we need to be comfortable with who we are after al, its our lives and we only have 1 chance.

I do not condone or agree with Trans people that get into relationships and lie about who they are, it is not fair to the people they are invovled with.

I absolutely refuse to let closeminded people try and make me feel bad about myself anymore, I am proud of who I am ...

The children have not lived with or even thought that their father wanted to be a women for 30 + years like he has. it took him that long to make that change and to comes to grip with that kind of change, But the kids should just except something right now no time to come to grip with it and no help, and their just Bee-otches for doing so.WHO calls children that????? that was a sad sad statement made by a small mind.

he has responsilitys to himself, but also has responsibilitys to his children to help them to understand something that took him many years to understand. He above all should understand what they are going through, the douts of he really is, the stigma, and the loss of who he was.

 I sat in front of my television yesterday crying with these two girls and hating a man I've never met in my life. I've lived this kind of sick perversion and anyone who thinks that this man was in the right is dead wrong. This lifestyle change- man to women- is not cheap and it takes away from your family. He cannot emotionally, mentally, or even financially put anyone but himself first- I know this because I live it every day. These girls aren't just mad because they are losing their father, they are mad on so many levels, for so many different reasons. I can't fathom how anyone on this board can stick up for this man when he is neglecting his basic responsibilities to his children. We should all be advocating for these young women, not condemning them or telling them to grow up or accept it because they love him. There is a 13 year old CHILD here that is going through HELL. People, society doesn't need to be more open to transgender issues but I think we need to take a good look at ourselves individually and as a mass and just think about the message we are sending our children.

GIRLS- Be strong. I'm 24 and I've lived with a crossdressing father all my life. My dad has never gone so far as to make a complete transformation but he's got the horomones and pills.  What he has done has been devestating to me and it's a never-ending battle for me. I know about the hormones and the clothing and the absolute loss you feel. He's taken something away from you-chipped straight into your being and removed a piece of you. I have never gotten over it- how can I when I deal with it every day?- but I've found ways to cope and so will you. Your father- I say father because someone who sits in front of a national audience and acts like YOU''VE victimized HIM, is nothing more than a sperm donor- will never be able to put anyone but himself first. You'll have to do that for yourself and each other. I have younger siblings and the one thing that I wrap myself in is something my grandma told me from the time I was a little girl until the time she died- in the end, your siblings are all you'll have. If you have each other, you'll make it. Hold on tight where you need to and let go when it doesn't do you any good anymore. You are in my thoughts and prayers and I know you will pull through this and be stronger for it.

   I happened to lose my father when I was 18 years old! He had a massive heart attack that none of us saw coming! On top of that, he was buried on my 19th birthday! So how dare you say "Boo-friggin-hoo? I DO know what I am talking about! But at least I am grateful that I only lost my father to death, it would have been much worse for me and my other 4 siblings, plus my mother, for him to have turned into a woman. I don't need two mothers and these girls don't either! How can you call them Bi#@h's? They are being honest and true, exactly like their father is. The only difference is that the father "CHOSE" to be a father in the first place. The daughter's did not ask for this!

   Yes, this family was destroyed, and why wouldn't it be? Obviously you read my post because you responded to it, yet you actually say that rather than for him to have lived his life on his own and to have NOT chosen to have children, that you're idea of acceptance is a better one? I don't think so! Prior to reading the lack of empathy for the girls of the he/she, I didn't have any problem with people doing as they see fit, as long as it does not hurt others. But after all of the reading that I have done here, and from all of the support that I am seeing for this father, I am changing my mind very quickly. The reason being is because trans-genders are apparently very selfish people that do not care who they hurt in order to get what they want. With that type of attitude, I refuse to support any of you trans-genders and will revert, quite happily, to my previous view on this topic and find this behavior to be unnatural and offensive at the same time!