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Topic : 07/18 The Cougar Craze

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Created on : Friday, April 25, 2008, 03:06:03 pm
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(Original Air Date 05/02/08) Demi Moore did it. So did Madonna and Halle Berry. This trend of older women dating younger men is called the Cougar Craze, and it’s sweeping the country. Recently, at a New York speed-dating event, Sugar Mamas and Boy Toys, good-looking 35-year-old men wooed women over 35 who made at least $500,000 a year. Jeremy organized the event and says he was just answering a demand from affluent ladies. Was he sincere in his matchmaking or just out to make a buck? Dr. Phil talks to two women who participated in the event -- Gail, 44, and Nancy, 50. Their experiences might surprise you. Then, 51-year-old Kat says she’s no cougar; she just likes to date younger guys because men her age are set in their ways. She says her 23-year-old ex-boyfriend, Ryon, was loving, passionate and had a much higher libido than older men. Her friend, Nancy, says Kat has a great head for business, but a bad one when it comes to the opposite sex. She says young men just see dollar signs when they see Kat. Is Kat dating down, or should Nancy just butt out? And, Bobbi had an 11-year relationship with a man who was 17 years her junior, but she says once she turned 50, he saw her as too old. She wants to be in a relationship again, but not with an older man. Her son, Nathan, says someone still wet behind the ears can’t appreciate all Bobbi has to offer. Does Nathan have the right to put his foot down with his mother? Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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May 2, 2008, 1:10 pm PDT

Younger man

I was involved for almost 7 years with a man who was almost 10 years younger than me...I can honestly say that it was the best 7 years of my life...We were blissfully happy.  He was the first man I was truly in love with and we complimented each other My  life is happy now, even though we aren't still together and I know that he was a big part of the reason I feel this way, and I'd do it again for another 7 or more years.
 
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May 2, 2008, 1:10 pm PDT

05/02 The Cougar Craze

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I'm a 30 year old woman. I met a 24 year old man. Is this too young for me. We are on the same path when it comes to career, faith, and attitude. If he were my own age he is perfect for me and he is younger than me. Tell me what your thoughts are.

First off: I totally disagree with the double-standard.  Makes no different which person is older.

 

I think that the age difference is more noticible when one of the couple is in their 20s and one in their 30s.  Then it seems to not matter to much UNTIL the older person gets into their 50s.  Then the differences seem to often cause problems.  My mom has been married to a man 8 years younger than her, for 30 years.  She is now 70 and her health is getting very poor.  I think the age difference now effects their relationship because he still wants to take off driving and going places, and she really can't.

 
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May 2, 2008, 1:11 pm PDT

05/02 The Cougar Craze

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I'm a 30 year old woman. I met a 24 year old man. Is this too young for me. We are on the same path when it comes to career, faith, and attitude. If he were my own age he is perfect for me and he is younger than me. Tell me what your thoughts are.
A six years younger doesn't seem too young to me. This age difference is a far cry from a 20 year one. When he's 64, you'll still be only 70.
 
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May 2, 2008, 1:17 pm PDT

05/02 The Cougar Craze

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You know what, you have no clue, but your message says a great deal about the type of person you are, aside from the fact that you're not interested in dating older women.
Wow, why are you even here? All the younger guys I have dated have been financially secure and gorgeous. But I do always get nasty stares from the young girls. LOL!
 
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May 2, 2008, 1:18 pm PDT

Older Women and Younger Men

I think today's show may have missed the mark a little.  Rather than dismissing any doubts "they" would have about the situation, it highlighted the problems.  And in the situations aired, there are plenty.  But I suspect there are plenty of older women in happy, healthy relationships with younger men that have little to do with their ages.  I am one of them.

 

I am married to a man 12 years my junior.  We have been together for almost 15 years and married for the last 4 of those.  We met when we were both playing volleyball with an activity club in Washington, DC.  He was on the other side of the net and was yelling and having a great time.  He reminded me of myself.  But I never considered the possibility of dating him.  We both continued participating in more of the activities with the club and encountered each other a few more times.  While on a beach weekend trip (separately), we spent some time together and discovered we were very comfortable together and were having a lot of fun.  Still, I hesitated to "date" him because of our age difference.  We were both fully aware of each other's age from day 1.  He pursued even though I was very hesitant.  My reasons originally were all the usual ones.  It would look strange, our families might not approve, etc.  At the time, I was 41 and he was 29.  I pointed out to him the fact that when he was 50 I would be 62.  He didn't seem to care.  We dated casually for a while.  When it started to become more serious, my concerns changed.  Not only am I 12 years older, but I have never been able to conceive children.  I did not want to deprive him of that, and he does love children (as do I).  For the first 2-3 years, I would even consider tying him down to an older woman.  He was insistant that he could live without having children and it would not become a problem in the future.  He eventually started hinting at the possibility of marriage (we were living together at this point).  I still could not reconcile the guilt I would have at depriving him of the ability to have children.  So I tried to break up the relationship; but he perservered.  I eventually gave up and decided to let him decide for himself.  But I still did not want to get married just in case he should have a change of heart.  After 10 years of this, I finally realized that he was the "one" for me and me for him.  We have been happily married for 4 years and I think it will last for the rest of our lives. 

 

But my point is that it was never about the age difference.  It just happened in spite of the age difference.  As it turns out, not one really cared and we are all part of a very happy extended family group.

 
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May 2, 2008, 1:18 pm PDT

Don't call me a cougar

I have been in a common law relationship with a man 19 years my junior for more than nine years.  We have a lot in common, we enjoy each other's company and our age difference is simply a non-issue.  Both of our families are completely supportive and accepting of us and we are both considered to be great additions to the other's family. When we were first together and I was in my mid forties, I was concerned that in the years to come we would start to have problems or drift apart.  In actual fact, I am now in my fifties and have two grandchildren and our relationship is thriving.  I think the most important thing in a relationship is the strength of the bond between the two parties and the depth of their love.  Age is just numbers!  I find it interesting that Dr. Phil is so opposed to relationships where the woman is older.  He states that statistics show there is a high rate of failure in such relationships and yet he didn't quote any actual statistics like he does on most other issues.  I think he just has an unfounded bias against such relationships.  I wonder why? 
 
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May 2, 2008, 1:21 pm PDT

Cougar Craze

My first husband was 9 years older than me and it lasted 3 years. My current husband is 6 years younger and we have been married for 26 years. If it doesn't work out, I'll pick on someone my own age. Having said that, I don't think too big an age gap is a good idea.

 
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May 2, 2008, 1:22 pm PDT

who do you think you are?

I am 28 and I know what I want. I have been through a lot in my life. People who say those in their twenties don't know what they want are meeting the wrong people. A lot of men a jerks with only one thing on their mind. I was engaged to a man who is eight years older than I am. There was nothing wrong with that. The motives behind the relatiionship are the key. Some people only want sex and money. That would be the cougars. Thank God that everyone is different.

 
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May 2, 2008, 1:24 pm PDT

Let it be

I have two sons who  have older partners and all I care about is that they are happy and the rest is manageable. I really like both women and we get along fine. Age really is a number in some cases. It depends on what stage they are in life, what their maturity level is. I think each individual situation has to be decided on its own merits. I trust my sons' judgement and know they will make the best decisions. I'm actually very lucky that they brought the right women into the family and I don't intend on looking a gift horse in the mouth.
 
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May 2, 2008, 1:28 pm PDT

It can work

  In July of this year, I will have been marrid for 17 years to a man 12 1/2 years younger than me.  His motheri 5 years older than me an my step-mother-in-law is about 4 years younger than me.  I was 40 when we married and he was 28.  It was a first marriage for both of us.  I won't say that every day has been perfect, but we work at our marriage  every day.  I was afraid of things people might say, but most women say things like, 'You go girl!!'  Neither of our families have said anything negative.  I think the differrence in age has bothered me more than it has Bob.  We laugh at the thought of going to my senior prom together: He would have been in kindergarten.  (Now that is weird!) 

 
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