Topic : 05/09 Mama Drama

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Created on : Friday, May 02, 2008, 01:33:02 pm
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We've all got a mom, and they all come with different personalities, and in different shapes and sizes. While some are more traditional, like June Cleaver, others are controlling drama queens. First meet Jessica. She says that becoming a mom was one of the happiest moments in her life, but it has taken a huge toll on her marriage. She gained over 50 pounds having her children, and now her husband says she looks like the Pillsbury Doughboy. He even points to pigs and says to his kids, 'Look, there's Mommy.' What does Dr. Phil say this couple must do to restore their relationship? Next, Kathleen calls her mom, Grace, the biggest drama queen. She says she's so controlling, she will throw tantrums if things don’t go her way. Grace says she's just a concerned, caring mother who likes to state her opinion. Will Grace admit her behavior is over the top, and is she ready to make a change? Then, 14-year-old Sheri claims she has the most embarrassing mom in the world! She says her mom, Monique, will break into song and dance anywhere at anytime. But will she at the Dr. Phil show? And, you won't want to miss Robin's favorite Mother’s Day present ideas. Join the discussion.

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May 11, 2008, 8:06 am PDT

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Well, I am weighing in here before seeing the actual program, but I would like to make two statements.  One is in response to this message.  I don't know what type of man Jessica's husband is.  He may very well be a pig for not being more understanding of her situation/condition.  But at the same time for you to say that he is a pig because he wants his wife to loose weight is also wrong.  We are going from end of the spectrum to the other.  You saying that because she has gotten pregnant and gained weight that its alright.  Everyone woman is different, but having children is not an excuse for being overweight.  My wife has had two children is now 40 years old and she is in better shape than the day we got married.  Could Jessica's husband speak to her in a more loving way while conveying his dissatisfaction, I positive he could.

 

The next point that I would like to state would be directed toward a comment that Dr. Phil made during one the previews for this show.  He asked Jessica if she gained this weight after getting pregnant?  To which her response was "yes".  Dr. Phil proceeded to ask who got her pregnant, at which point she looks at her husband.  There so many places I could go here.  Did he provide the sperm, yeah.  Did she provide the egg, well yeah.  Are we now to blame the husband fo the weight that our wives gain while being pregnant?  If so, why stop there?  We should be charged for every crime that any woman has committed from having Post Pardom Depression, and I could go on.  C'mon, let's keep the blame where it needs to be.  Jessica is responsible for her own body.  What she needs to do is be satisfied with her own body.  If this is the weight she is satisfied and being at, then so be it.  It is also up to her to loose weight for her husband if she thinks that will please him, but she also needs to do because she wants to.  Also, Jessica's husband need to come to grips that this may be the weight that Jessica will be.  Did he marry her strictly for her looks?  I am not a counselor, but I bet that if they are having problems in their marriage, even if Jessica looses the weight, something else is going to be the problem.  I have more to say, but I will stop there.

 

Let's clarify something for you.  Jessica's husband IS a pig.  This isn't a "men are pigs", misandry statement.  This is directed to her husband because he treats her as less than human merely because she hasn't lost all the weight from two pregnancies that were very close together.  When you have psychological abuse going on, the husband is partly responsible and blame-worthy.   HE's the one who treats her worse than I'd treat any dog, and wonders why she turns to food to alleve the anxiety while giving up hope of ever regaining her shape. 

 

 I don't know about her, but when I'm anxious and pressured to lose weight, I start GAINING weight like crazy because I'm so hyperfocused on it and end up using food (the way cutters use knives) to alleviate anxiety.  The moment I stop worrying about it, eat when I feel like eating and relax, I start losing.  I cannot gain weight when I relax because 1) I stop using food for comfort 2) I feel good enough to get out and exercise 3) I focus on other activities/goals. 

 

The sooner her husband SHUTS UP, the sooner his wife is going to drop the excess weight.  If she has a physical or psychological impediment to the weight loss, then if he's supportive, she'll get it treated.  He's adding gasoline to the fire and if he had any brains he'd stop with this "conditional love" garbage.  He's no prize either- men who look like 12 yo girls are not that attractive- lets face it, he's not a well-defined man mountain.  But you don't see her preying on HIS weakness do you?  No, she has the class not to and gets verbally abused for it. 

 

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May 11, 2008, 1:14 pm PDT

Gay Husbands - Critical Husbands - the Weight Issue

I am 48, and I've got absolutely nothing against gay lives - I have to say that up front before I make my comments on the husband who was so very critical of his young, over-weight wife (Jess) who had to very young (new) babies to contend with.

 

There are critical men who will always find something to criticize about their wife, and then also, in my experience, and by knowing  many gay friends, men who, in their early years, were trying very hard to live straight lives but they were in their heart gay but just hadn't dealt with it and "come out" yet.  I cannot count the number of men I know now who have past marriages with children!  And they were horrors as husbands to their wives, who kept trying harder and harder to please their every upset.

 

And in the case of a "gay guy" trying to live a straight life with kids, and all that goes alone with kids - wives can have fluctuating differences in weight, appearances, and clean house vs. living with kids, or arguing about being able to go out and be with adults vs. doing kids things, I have watched my friends be VERY critical of their straight wives before they themselves "came out."  They blamed everything wrong in their marriage somehow on the spouse.  Sometimes the spouse was thin and absolutely gorgeous - so the critical husband had to really search to find things to criticize - I remember infertility even being criticized and blamed on the woman before they had a surrogate and then later the man "came out."

 

I would also add that after "coming out" most of these went through divorce but came out as friends...once the truth was out, and the criticizing stopped, they realized the initial attraction was a strong friendship.

 

So we go to Jess.  I think she either has a very critical husband who, if she loses weight, will find more to criticize, or, perhaps there are some deeper issues here in this VERY young marriage.  As an aside, Dr. Phil never seems to comment on how YOUNG many of these marriages / kids are - and how hard that alone must be.  Jess's husband should be walking with Jess with the boys in strollers (keeps her safe and losing weight and boys corralled at the same time) or watch the boys at the park while she speedwalks the perimeter of the park.  These are just some of the things I did to keep my weight down after kids.  Because it's hard - you have to cook for kids, you can't just up and run away from kids, you've got to watch them, and add housework and a job and it's one tough hill to climb when you're restricted on income.

 

Jess and hubby need to realize the whole world is there to criticize them, and everyone, even hubby - haha, can be very easily criticized as far as appearance.  It is with loving words that we encourage, not mean words.  Telling someone that all you care about is their health and that you love them is the best thing you can say.  Buying and keeping only "good" foods in the house is the best thing you can do.

 

And remember that some husbands just aren't ever going to be happy or content - and ask yourself WHY?

 

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May 11, 2008, 1:18 pm PDT

You go Melissa! God bless you!

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First off let me tell you a little bit about my background. I am a 37 year old mother of two beautiful children.

I lost my husband in November of 2006 when he flipped a cement mixer he was driving. My husband died the day before our son turned 2 months old.

 

Both of my children have health problems. My 3 year old daughter has Epilepsy. Scary experience when she goes into seizures. My 20 month old son has Multi-Cystic Kidney Disease, and has already had one of his kidneys removed.

 

In spite of all the trials I have been through in the last year and a half I continue to love and raise my children. They are a blessing to my given to my by God. He chose me to raise these two beautiful children on my own for a reason. I am not sure what that reason is but I do not resent my children for that.

 

I have went back to school to get a degree so that I can find a well paying job that has good insurance benefits. I do not want to have to depend on Medicaid for their medical care. Working at a job that pays anywhere from $7.00-9.00 doesn't make it because one of my daughter's medications is over $7,000.00 for 15 doses.

 

Despite those hardships mentioned above I survive and provide for my children the best that I can. My children are a blessing to me. I love them without condition and they love me. I know there will be more tough times ahead as they grow older, but with the help from God and my love they will live to lead productive lives and raise happy healthy families of their own.

 

To all the mothers out there I wish them a very happy Mother's Day.

 

Melissa

 

 

Melissa,

 

You are on the right track.  God didn't cause pain, He is our only river out of it, promising that you will be reunited with your hubby some day - and the kids, too!  You will be a family in eternity.

 

I also put myself through college and law school with my two babies.  Best move ever.  They watched their mom's growth, and now they have their own degrees.  The only thing life can take from you is your educational degree - so go for it.  And you are providing them security, future care, self esteem, so much by doing what you're doing.

 

I am very sorry for your hard time.  I got a disabling nerve disease at 48, after being an attorney and judge, so the only thing I'd add, is SAVE money.  I wasn't good at that.  I should've done better.

 

God bless you sweet Melissa.

 

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May 11, 2008, 1:26 pm PDT

This is a good idea, but posted in wrong place

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Please do a show on chronic pain. There have got to be other people out there who are in my situation and who do not know who to turn to next. Pain every single day of their lives, altering what their life used to be like. Go to the doctor and get the same old responses. Here are your pain pill prescriptions, see ya in a month. Family thinking that you are already a drug addict because you are on medicine prescribed to you by a M.D., but that doesn't matter you are bound to be an addict at some point in your life. (According to them).  Friends who don't understand that "no, you don't feel like coming out for dinner because all you want to do is to lay in bed because you are in pain or are tired from the pain pills or depressed over your situation. Unless you have ever had chronic pain and have suffered from it daily you have NO idea what we go through on a daily basis. It just gets old, people don't understand us. I would LOVE for dr.phil to do a show on chronic pain and have a pain psychologist  or a pain doctror there with our group who can actually give statistics of what our pain does to us on a dad to day basis and just how common of a problem this is for us. thanks, brenda fattig

I love your idea because I have daily chronic pain from a nerve disease called thoracic outlet syndrome, and also CRPS and fibromyagia also developed.

 

But you should email directly to Dr. Phil - this is the message board where we comment on the shows, and I don't know if he'll see your very important message!  So hitthe contact Dr. Phil and choose "email the show."

 

Yes, getting families to understand and stop criticizing severe chronic pain situations is VERY hard - I know from my own experience.  We have a neurological message board where we talk about this stuff and more - http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/forum24.html    check it out if your illness is in any way related to nerves, neurological conditions and more.  There is a list of about 200 illnesses I think.  It is the ONLY support I have since my condition is rare, and since my family only criticizes me.

 

God bless you and I wish a good day.

 
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May 11, 2008, 2:53 pm PDT

I blame Jessica's husband for eating disorders

People wonder why there are so many with eating disorders these days. It's because of people like him!!!! Notice I didn't say men---I think girls have their high standards as well, and the desire to be "perfect" often drives women to do things that they normally would not do. Such as starving themselves/restricting, binging and purging, or overeating. If our society did not focus so much on weight and physical appearance, i guarantee there would be less cases of eating disorders. A husband should support his wife in sickness and in health. Technically, eating habits our part of our health. And when you have a husband putting you down for "not looking like you did when you got married," can we honestly expect the woman to change? What if she's happy with the way she looks, and her husband is making her feel like crap, why would she WANT to lose weight? The husband should be supporting her and encouraging her to get active, but if she doesn't want to, it's none of his damn business!!!! Jessica, I support you 110%!!!!!
 
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May 12, 2008, 4:38 am PDT

05/09 Mama Drama

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I think Dr. Phil was trying to point out that she didn't get pregnant on her own. Jared (is that his name?) acted like she got pregnant and fat to spite him, or something.

 

If Jared "didn't think" that having two babies that close in succession was going to have an impact on her body, then that just proves he's one of many who go about life entirely too ignorant and unlearned.  I don't know about her mindset, but he needed to wait until he was more mature before he produced offspring.

 

I agree Jessica needs to lose weight, although it is highly unlikely she'll ever go back to being 110 pounds.  Additionally, if Jared thinks Jessica's stretched abdomen and breasts are going to turn back to the way the were, he has another think coming.  If she agrees to have, and if he agrees to pay for painful, possibly dangerous plastic surgery, then maybe she can become his idea of a "dream girl". 

 

I think she should lose the weight AND Jared, unless, of course, he goes through some kind of major personality metamorphosis.

Depends on the person, I guess.  My daughter has toddlers who are 4 and 3, and she is at 120 pounds, does landscaping work with her husband.  Sure, she has some stretch marks and those will never go away, but if she really did want to get her weight back down and was willing to work for it with diet and exercise.  Like I said, maybe she just doesn't want it that bad.
 
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May 12, 2008, 4:46 am PDT

05/09 Mama Drama

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I am 48, and I've got absolutely nothing against gay lives - I have to say that up front before I make my comments on the husband who was so very critical of his young, over-weight wife (Jess) who had to very young (new) babies to contend with.

 

There are critical men who will always find something to criticize about their wife, and then also, in my experience, and by knowing  many gay friends, men who, in their early years, were trying very hard to live straight lives but they were in their heart gay but just hadn't dealt with it and "come out" yet.  I cannot count the number of men I know now who have past marriages with children!  And they were horrors as husbands to their wives, who kept trying harder and harder to please their every upset.

 

And in the case of a "gay guy" trying to live a straight life with kids, and all that goes alone with kids - wives can have fluctuating differences in weight, appearances, and clean house vs. living with kids, or arguing about being able to go out and be with adults vs. doing kids things, I have watched my friends be VERY critical of their straight wives before they themselves "came out."  They blamed everything wrong in their marriage somehow on the spouse.  Sometimes the spouse was thin and absolutely gorgeous - so the critical husband had to really search to find things to criticize - I remember infertility even being criticized and blamed on the woman before they had a surrogate and then later the man "came out."

 

I would also add that after "coming out" most of these went through divorce but came out as friends...once the truth was out, and the criticizing stopped, they realized the initial attraction was a strong friendship.

 

So we go to Jess.  I think she either has a very critical husband who, if she loses weight, will find more to criticize, or, perhaps there are some deeper issues here in this VERY young marriage.  As an aside, Dr. Phil never seems to comment on how YOUNG many of these marriages / kids are - and how hard that alone must be.  Jess's husband should be walking with Jess with the boys in strollers (keeps her safe and losing weight and boys corralled at the same time) or watch the boys at the park while she speedwalks the perimeter of the park.  These are just some of the things I did to keep my weight down after kids.  Because it's hard - you have to cook for kids, you can't just up and run away from kids, you've got to watch them, and add housework and a job and it's one tough hill to climb when you're restricted on income.

 

Jess and hubby need to realize the whole world is there to criticize them, and everyone, even hubby - haha, can be very easily criticized as far as appearance.  It is with loving words that we encourage, not mean words.  Telling someone that all you care about is their health and that you love them is the best thing you can say.  Buying and keeping only "good" foods in the house is the best thing you can do.

 

And remember that some husbands just aren't ever going to be happy or content - and ask yourself WHY?

Her husband said that he asks her all the time to go walking, has offered to pay for her membership to a gym, and she refuses.  While I absolutely agree that his nasty and unkind remarks aren't helping anything, I also know the frustration of living with an obese person, who chooses to put that fattening food in their mouths over and over and over again, the whole time claiming that they have "done everything" to lose weight... EXCEPT exercise.  We all know that you cannot consume more calories than you burn off during the day.  The woman is obviously consuming more than she is burning off by chasing the children and doing housework.  She is medicating her misery with food, and he is adding to her misery, but it is HER choice about what she puts in her mouth.  I guarantee if you went into her house and looked in her cabinets and fridge, you would see all kinds of junkfood.  Like Dr. Phil likes to say GET REAL.  She can't change what she doesn't acknowledge.  The husband is frustrated and not physically attracted to her fat... is he supposed to pretend it isn't there?  His honesty isn't wrong, but the terrible way he has chosen to be honest with her IS.  He can't help it if he isn't attracted to an obese woman, and if she wants him to be attracted to her again, she has to understand that.   Like I said, which does she want more? The husband to be attracted to her or the fattening food.  She has to choose.
 
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May 12, 2008, 7:07 am PDT

Weight gain after pregnancy

Ok so I have been reading all these posts about the whole weight gain issue that Jessica has experienced since having two children. I wonder if people have forgotten that no two bodies are built the same, and having a child via c-section is alot different than going natural. Some women gain lots of weight during pregnancy and others gain very little. Some women have the ability to get back down to their pre-pregnancy size within months, and for some women it takes months or more to lose the weight. Once a women has a c-section, her stomach will never be the same. I had a child via c-section and it took me almost a year and a half to get back to my pre-pregnancy weight, (Size 4) and my stomach will never be the same. Depression can be a cause for weight gain as well. I think it's great that Jessica wants to lose weight, but she needs to know that she is still beautiful whether or not she gets back to her pre-pregnancy weight.
 
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May 12, 2008, 10:16 am PDT

05/09 Mama Drama

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Ok so I have been reading all these posts about the whole weight gain issue that Jessica has experienced since having two children. I wonder if people have forgotten that no two bodies are built the same, and having a child via c-section is alot different than going natural. Some women gain lots of weight during pregnancy and others gain very little. Some women have the ability to get back down to their pre-pregnancy size within months, and for some women it takes months or more to lose the weight. Once a women has a c-section, her stomach will never be the same. I had a child via c-section and it took me almost a year and a half to get back to my pre-pregnancy weight, (Size 4) and my stomach will never be the same. Depression can be a cause for weight gain as well. I think it's great that Jessica wants to lose weight, but she needs to know that she is still beautiful whether or not she gets back to her pre-pregnancy weight.

lossing weight will not change the negative image she has of herself, until she gets pride in herself  some   self worth, she will always feel like she is worthless.,

 

A woman with pride in herself would of never took that from her husband.

 
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May 12, 2008, 11:55 am PDT

05/09 Mama Drama

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Thank you!!!
So, how are you feeling these days?
 

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