Topic : 08/20 Sister-in-Law from Hell

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Created on : Friday, May 09, 2008, 03:52:17 pm
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(Original Air Date: 05/12/08) They say when you marry, you marry the whole family. But what happens when a member of your new extended family is the source of chaos and pain? Five relatives claim their sister-in-law, Kelly, is toxic. They say she spreads gossip, sends stalking e-mails and acts self-centered and psychotic. Kelly’s father-in-law, Austin, calls her The Destroyer and says she’s hell-bent on ruining the relationship between his sons, Tim and Greg, and her husband, Bill. Kelly believes she’s being unfairly targeted because she showed up in court as a witness for Greg’s ex-wife. The outspoken sister-in-law may have ruffled some feathers, but is she the only one at fault? Find out why her friend, Jennifer, feels Kelly is getting a bad rap. Join the discussion.

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Do you have someone that is toxic to your family? Tell us!


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May 21, 2008, 1:11 pm PDT

Don't Feel Bad...

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I understand what Kelly is going through.  I have been labeled the trouble maker in my husband's family for more than 20 years now.  Kelly is lucky that her husband is standing by her.  My husband won't speak up for me against his family.  Oh yeah he always tells me he's gonna tell them off for hurting me; but when he gets around them he forgets about it.

I have finally made up my mind; I am through with them. 

It took my husband a LONG time to get to the point where he finally realized that I wasn't crazy, I wasn't making things up, etc...  He had to see things for himself.  While he doesn't always agree with me, he has made a real effort to at least try to understand how I am feeling.  It has taken his own family betraying HIM for him to finally get it!  Be patient, it's a tough spot to be in!  I don't envy my husband one bit.  I can't imagine how I would feel if the roles were reversed and it was my family treating him this way.  But always remember, your husband didn't choose his family but he chose YOU!  That should speak volumes.  He may never stand up for you the way you would like, but at least he hasn't allowed them to run you off permanently!  And, I'm sure the fact that he is still with you speaks louder than any words could.  If they are anything like my husband's family, they probably wouldn't get it anyway!  Even when he stands up to them and defends me, they accuse HIM of lying.  It's really kind of pathetic and all you can really do is feel sorry for them.
 
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May 26, 2008, 2:15 pm PDT

05/12 Sister-in-Law from Hell?

Hi Kelly.  I talked to you on another board, I am Godsgurl there. 

 

I was surprised that Dr Phil never really summed up what was going on in your situation.  After seeing the show, I wasn't sure how people were going to react.  I am glad that it seems that most viewers noticed that your in-laws never could come up with a valid reason to be so extremely upset with you.  It just showed how petty & critical they are of you.

 

I just wished that Dr Phil would have validated your husband's choice to not allow their unhealthy behavior to control your lives.  I didn't really understand his comment about the child in the burn unit.  He seemed to be directing that at both your in-laws and you and your husband.  I could be wrong, but does that mean Dr Phil thinks you should have all just hugged & moved forward into a new relationship?  I would have liked to have seen HOW it could be resolved.

 
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May 27, 2008, 10:47 am PDT

Thank you

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It took my husband a LONG time to get to the point where he finally realized that I wasn't crazy, I wasn't making things up, etc...  He had to see things for himself.  While he doesn't always agree with me, he has made a real effort to at least try to understand how I am feeling.  It has taken his own family betraying HIM for him to finally get it!  Be patient, it's a tough spot to be in!  I don't envy my husband one bit.  I can't imagine how I would feel if the roles were reversed and it was my family treating him this way.  But always remember, your husband didn't choose his family but he chose YOU!  That should speak volumes.  He may never stand up for you the way you would like, but at least he hasn't allowed them to run you off permanently!  And, I'm sure the fact that he is still with you speaks louder than any words could.  If they are anything like my husband's family, they probably wouldn't get it anyway!  Even when he stands up to them and defends me, they accuse HIM of lying.  It's really kind of pathetic and all you can really do is feel sorry for them.
I really appreciate what you wrote.  You can not imagine how much what you have written has helped me.  My in laws probably wouldn't get it either and I should feel sorry for them.
 
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May 28, 2008, 9:07 pm PDT

05/12 Sister-in-Law from Hell?

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It took my husband a LONG time to get to the point where he finally realized that I wasn't crazy, I wasn't making things up, etc...  He had to see things for himself.  While he doesn't always agree with me, he has made a real effort to at least try to understand how I am feeling.  It has taken his own family betraying HIM for him to finally get it!  Be patient, it's a tough spot to be in!  I don't envy my husband one bit.  I can't imagine how I would feel if the roles were reversed and it was my family treating him this way.  But always remember, your husband didn't choose his family but he chose YOU!  That should speak volumes.  He may never stand up for you the way you would like, but at least he hasn't allowed them to run you off permanently!  And, I'm sure the fact that he is still with you speaks louder than any words could.  If they are anything like my husband's family, they probably wouldn't get it anyway!  Even when he stands up to them and defends me, they accuse HIM of lying.  It's really kind of pathetic and all you can really do is feel sorry for them.
Sometimes the husband has to have the family members causing problems actually stab him in the back before he'll do anything about it. Don't never let them have the chance to cause trouble again.
 
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May 30, 2008, 7:28 pm PDT

The end is this?

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It took my husband a LONG time to get to the point where he finally realized that I wasn't crazy, I wasn't making things up, etc...  He had to see things for himself.  While he doesn't always agree with me, he has made a real effort to at least try to understand how I am feeling.  It has taken his own family betraying HIM for him to finally get it!  Be patient, it's a tough spot to be in!  I don't envy my husband one bit.  I can't imagine how I would feel if the roles were reversed and it was my family treating him this way.  But always remember, your husband didn't choose his family but he chose YOU!  That should speak volumes.  He may never stand up for you the way you would like, but at least he hasn't allowed them to run you off permanently!  And, I'm sure the fact that he is still with you speaks louder than any words could.  If they are anything like my husband's family, they probably wouldn't get it anyway!  Even when he stands up to them and defends me, they accuse HIM of lying.  It's really kind of pathetic and all you can really do is feel sorry for them.
 So, this is where it ends? You don't reach out to your husband's family? You don't try to be the hero and make things right? You and your "friends" and all the other, poor pitiful in-laws have a pity party on this board? You all have the same problem so you become your own misguided and wrong support group?
What a tragedy. Dr. Phil was wasting his time after all. I don't care about you, and I don't care about your husband, but your son deserves a relationship with his paternal grandparents. I bet if you reached out to your father- and mother-in-law and invited them to, say, a birthday party for your son or just a little picnic for him. If you make the relationship about your son and let go anything you think is "negative" then this trouble could be greatly healed. Then also, with the positive relationship with the parents, your husband's sibs would come around. I mean, they aren't perfect - they have made a lot of mistakes. But you are also keeping the flame of hatred fanned. I hope you really stop this and reconsider your very bad behavior here.
Sorry to be harsh, but I'm deeply disappointed that the last comments have all been bent on continuing the feud. Again, I wish you all well.

 
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May 31, 2008, 12:39 pm PDT

05/12 Sister-in-Law from Hell?

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 So, this is where it ends? You don't reach out to your husband's family? You don't try to be the hero and make things right? You and your "friends" and all the other, poor pitiful in-laws have a pity party on this board? You all have the same problem so you become your own misguided and wrong support group?
What a tragedy. Dr. Phil was wasting his time after all. I don't care about you, and I don't care about your husband, but your son deserves a relationship with his paternal grandparents. I bet if you reached out to your father- and mother-in-law and invited them to, say, a birthday party for your son or just a little picnic for him. If you make the relationship about your son and let go anything you think is "negative" then this trouble could be greatly healed. Then also, with the positive relationship with the parents, your husband's sibs would come around. I mean, they aren't perfect - they have made a lot of mistakes. But you are also keeping the flame of hatred fanned. I hope you really stop this and reconsider your very bad behavior here.
Sorry to be harsh, but I'm deeply disappointed that the last comments have all been bent on continuing the feud. Again, I wish you all well.

So let's say she does invite them to her home a couple of times and they never invite her to theirs.  You invite the sibs to the son's birtday party and you are not invited to theirs. When does it end?  How often do you have to be kicked before you say enough is enough.  How much hurt can a person take?  Is it okay for a relationship to be a one way street?

 
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June 15, 2008, 5:50 pm PDT

Been there, done that...

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 So, this is where it ends? You don't reach out to your husband's family? You don't try to be the hero and make things right? You and your "friends" and all the other, poor pitiful in-laws have a pity party on this board? You all have the same problem so you become your own misguided and wrong support group?
What a tragedy. Dr. Phil was wasting his time after all. I don't care about you, and I don't care about your husband, but your son deserves a relationship with his paternal grandparents. I bet if you reached out to your father- and mother-in-law and invited them to, say, a birthday party for your son or just a little picnic for him. If you make the relationship about your son and let go anything you think is "negative" then this trouble could be greatly healed. Then also, with the positive relationship with the parents, your husband's sibs would come around. I mean, they aren't perfect - they have made a lot of mistakes. But you are also keeping the flame of hatred fanned. I hope you really stop this and reconsider your very bad behavior here.
Sorry to be harsh, but I'm deeply disappointed that the last comments have all been bent on continuing the feud. Again, I wish you all well.

I don't know if anyone even reads this board anymore or not, but I thought I would check to see if there were any new messages since I last checked.

 

I have reached out to my husband's family.  Everytime they've seen my child, it's been our doing (mostly mine.)  Even my husband could not think of one specific time they asked to see us or him (the baby). It's always us going to see them.

 

And, as far as birthday parties etc... I'm done with that whole deal too.  They WERE invited to his first birthday party (the only one he's had).  My MIL and FIL came.  They left early as we were opening gifts.  Because my sister-in-law (Greg's ex-wife) was there, standing near me, they were going to leave without even saying goodbye to me OR the baby.  Now, you tell me, who's being childish???  I didn't ask them to love on my sister in law and pretend they were best friends.  But seriously???  You can't just say goodbye to your grandson and ignore her?  Besides, Greg was the one who made her a member of the family, not us.  So, now we like her and because HE doesn't want to be with her anymore means we can't either?  That's just plain stupid!  Besides, Lynn, the MIL, ought to know better!  One of her best friends is her brother's ex-wife!

 

I appreciate that you don't care about me or my husband, and I agree, it would be lovely if my son could have a relationship with his grandparents, but not if they are going to act like a bunch of dysfunctional, messed up people!  I mean, where do you draw the line?  Does he deserve to have a relationship with them if they are career criminals?  What if they are child molesters? What if they are clinically, psychologically disturbed?  People have different opinions on what is and is not acceptable.  We have made our decision on what is acceptable for our child to be exposed to and if they cannot abide by our guidelines, that is their decision.  Also, they don't seem to interested in seeing him anyway.  They make it a point to leave gifts for him on our front door at midnight in an effort to avoid seeing me.  I even said they were more than welcome to make arrangements with my husband to see the baby.  That was back in March and we've never heard from them since.  You can only have so much sympathy for people who want to sit back, fell sorry for themselves, and play the woe is me game!

 
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June 20, 2008, 11:24 am PDT

From one who HAS tried

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 So, this is where it ends? You don't reach out to your husband's family? You don't try to be the hero and make things right? You and your "friends" and all the other, poor pitiful in-laws have a pity party on this board? You all have the same problem so you become your own misguided and wrong support group?
What a tragedy. Dr. Phil was wasting his time after all. I don't care about you, and I don't care about your husband, but your son deserves a relationship with his paternal grandparents. I bet if you reached out to your father- and mother-in-law and invited them to, say, a birthday party for your son or just a little picnic for him. If you make the relationship about your son and let go anything you think is "negative" then this trouble could be greatly healed. Then also, with the positive relationship with the parents, your husband's sibs would come around. I mean, they aren't perfect - they have made a lot of mistakes. But you are also keeping the flame of hatred fanned. I hope you really stop this and reconsider your very bad behavior here.
Sorry to be harsh, but I'm deeply disappointed that the last comments have all been bent on continuing the feud. Again, I wish you all well.

My sister-in-law is a walking disease.  She never married, yet is still a very beautiful woman...on the outside.  While my Mother-in-law was alive, I had her to every family event...she was my husband's mother, and my childrens' grandmother.  However, she was not "allowed" to go anywhere without the demon daughter.

Once my Mother-in-law passed away, I cut down the invitations.  Why?  Because my sister-in-law insulted me, every guest in my home with her pretty poison...it really was offensive.  The next to last straw was her absence at the Memorial Services of Both my parents...they died four months apart...I am an only child...while I was supportive of her when her Mother passed, she acted as if a goldfish was flushed down the toilet when it came time to respect my parents.

One last time...I invited her out to dinner with my husband (her brother), my son, my daughter and her date.  My daughter is dating a pre-med young man, who is of Spanish decent...he has a name.  My sister in law who is Italian, repeatedly  called him PEDRO, during the entire night, knowing full well that is NOT his name.  He was uncomfortable, my daughter was devastated, my son said "NEVER AGAIN", and my husband just said to me that I'd never learn.

I learned!  NO ONE SHOULD BE SUBJECTED TO THE VENIM OF PEOPLE LIKE THAT!  DNA means nothing.  There are people who desreve to be alone...my sister-in-law is one of them.  This is one rift that cannot be healed, and I only wish I had quit trying years ago....would have saved PEDRO from the evening from hell, along with her other "victims". 

I am not having a "pity party", I just refuse to enable this totally disgusting behavior to exist around my family.  I will never hurt her by spreading rumors, or by stooping to her level.  To me, she is dead..my husband and children feel the same.  Sometimes you cannot fix the problem or the person.  The wisdom is in knowing when you cannot.

 
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July 24, 2008, 8:05 am PDT

RE: I am the SIL from Hell

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I am the SIL from Hell? on this show.  Yep, you heard right - that's me.  I completely agree with you.  My husband is fabulous and my child is the most wonderful gift God has ever given me!  Our home life is amazing and I couldn't ask for more.  I would love to share this with my husband's family, but it is their choice to behave unacceptably.  I even tried to tell them that there were things going on that were not ok and we would not be around until some changes were made.  That didn't seem to bother them. They didn't seem to mind that we missed out on Thanksgiving, Christmas, etc...  But boy, when they have the chance to humiliate me publicly on national tv - they're all over that!
I recognize a SIL in hell when I see one.  My family deals with one that could be your twin soul mate.  And it is a shame that you like my family's SIL are so insecure that you can't let you husband have a relationship with his family without causing him so much grief that he can't live a peaceful life.You too one day will have children and what goes around comes around. You like my families SIL will gets your one day in your own way.  Second chances only come around one in awhile and maybe you'll get another one or maybe you won't.    We miss our family too... 
 
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August 15, 2008, 1:08 pm PDT

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