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Created on : Friday, May 16, 2008, 02:19:56 pm
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(Original Air Date: 05/19/08) Many little girls dream of the perfect wedding day with a fairytale gown, beautiful flowers and their handsome groom, but Dr. Phil's guests say their wedding bells hit a sour note. Amy says the day she and Steve tied the knot turned into a disaster. The sun scorched the guests, then there was a downpour, the wedding arch fell and hit the pastor, and the cake crumbled as they were cutting it. She says it was a huge dream shattered, and she can't move past it. Steve says he had a blast, and Amy needs to lighten up. What does Dr. Phil think? Then, shortly after Mandy and her husband, Kris, said "I do," a three-story deck collapsed, and they and 30 of their family and friends were seriously injured.  Mandy says she left her wedding strapped to a stretcher, and she and Kris spent their wedding night in the emergency room. Although this took place over two years ago, the couple thinks about it every day. How can they overcome their guilt? And, Kurt and Brandi recently renewed their vows because they say they wanted a fresh start to their seven-year marriage. Just months after their ceremony, Kurt filed for divorce when he found out a secret Brandi had been keeping. Will the results of polygraph tests inspire this couple to make their marriage work or end it for good? Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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May 22, 2008, 4:01 pm PDT

I don't know..........

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I would think that all Americans would realize how trivial weddings, clothes, an embarrassing family member, really most anything is after the events of 911. I know that on the morning of Sept. 11, 2001 while I was getting ready for work (back when I could work) turned on the TV and watched that second plane fly into the world trade center and then watch horrified as both towers proceeded to collapse was one of the worst days of my life. I remember it all so clearly and I cried all day along with my coworkers. We didn't have one customer in the bank that day. From that day on I learned to forgive so much more easily, I learned to not sweat the small stuff, and I learned that no matter how bad things could be in my life that there is always something worse out there. I just don't understand how anyone who remembers that day can get that upset over something as trivial as a wedding. It's not the wedding that makes the marriage, it's the two people in that union who will be there for each other when the truly horrible things in life come along. Go ahead and have a huge beautiful wedding, I'm not saying not to, I'm just saying that when something goes wrong like it always does just roll with the flow. The more goofy things that go awry during the wedding or reception is just more memories you will have about that day. And it should be good ones, if a wedding went off without a hitch then where is the fun of remembering? I have some very serious health problems now but I'm always able to look at someone else and realize just how good that I have it. There is ALWAYS someone who's health is worse than mine.
 
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May 22, 2008, 6:38 pm PDT

One more thing...............

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What this society lacks is EMPATHY pure and simple. 

 

  The fact of the matter is that I just read more than 2 dozen disaster stories from YOU POSTERS.  You didn't have to tell them, but you did.  

 

 It's alright for you to do it?

 

You guys could have all gotten married on your front lawns, in blue jeans, with Twinkies for wedding cakes, but you didn't.

 

If you think Amy is the problem, check out the next National Geographic special on tv.  Then maybe you can see what a big deal a wedding is in those cyclone and earthquake torn areas that YOU probably hadn't even heard of before 3 weeks ago.

 

By the way, it is pronounced ME- an- mar.

 

Weddings are big deals everywhere.  

 I don't know if you are aware of this or not so I thought that I would make it clear to you. This is how it works. Dr Phil has a show on TV and he has the message board here on his web sight. After someone watches the show of the day we get to sign in and comment about what went on during that show. If the topic is about divorce we talk about divorce, if the topic is about children we talk about children, if the topic is about drugs then we talk about drugs, and so on and so forth. Well, TA DA the topic this time happened to be about nightmare weddings and guess what, we're talking about nightmare weddings! Now, when the time comes to talk about weddings in third world countries, we will indeed talk about third world weddings. As far as I know this message board is a place for everyone to join in and talk about anything they want to as long as it has something to do with the subject at hand. Who do you think you are telling us what we can and cannot write about? And by the way, all of us POSTERS didn't have huge weddings, you would know that if you read more of these messages. And where do you get off suggesting that none of us know anything that goes on in this world except for you? You are the one without empathy if you can actually read some of these truly tragic stories and be so unfeeling and unmoved. You act like you are a know it all when in fact you are just a rude, disrespectful witch. I wanted to use another word but it would be bleeped out. Have a nice "know it all" day! 
 
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May 22, 2008, 9:07 pm PDT

laughing it off

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For the reasons I posted I'm not very empathetic to her wedding misery or her so called curse in her life. Read my post called"Amy belongs in brat camp" and maybe you will understand my point of view. Personally I think her husband had a blast and I think she should have just relaxed, had fun and figured she would have a very funny story to tell her kids and grandkids in the future. Sometimes you just have to laugh when things go so wrong. I don't mean wrong like the second couple, I really feel sorry for them, but she could have salvaged her day if she would have danced with her husband and had a good time anyway. By the way, I bake wedding cakes on the side at home, I'm disabled so I can't work, and you HAVE to take into consideration the weather when it comes to the cake. If it's really hot and humid it should stay in the fridge until it's time to cut. She should have known that just as you said.

 yes, the whole thing would seem so much different to her if she could have just had fun,laughed about it all and seen it as a funny story for the grandkids. so much depends on attitude. "disaster," like "beuaty,"is often "in the eye of the beholder." this may not be so for the second couple, as you say, but for amy'scase, i think it is.
 
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May 22, 2008, 9:11 pm PDT

Let' s see she still has anniversaries and births left to go wrong

   Look, let's face it , there is always someone in the crowd, who's glass is half empty and they are the victim.  This young woman gets a payoff for her many disappointments, and her family and friends tip-toe around  trying to take her seriously. 

 

   I'm so grateful that (except for one family member, there is always one) my family and friends wouldn't want to waste the good times on that kind of behavior.  We celebrate birthdays, anniversaries, weddings, the 4th of July, Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Years, etc... with the understanding we are doing the best we can for and by each other. It's damn good.

 

    Which brings me to a television program about out of control brides.  This program exposes women planning their wedding which is "all about them."  They are the most vulgar, insipid and selfish individuals.  I am always amazed that when they finally get to the ceremony, after these women have kicked, insulted, over spent, over-indulged themselves at everyones expense, there are only 10 to 15 people in attendance. I've wondered how much they were paid to show up.

 

   But I need to get back on track.  I suppose if her wedding was a legitimate train wreck I'd have sympathy.  It just seems to me, she's making every milestone event in her life a predictable train wreck.

 

    Oh well.... 

 

  

 

   

 
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May 22, 2008, 9:13 pm PDT

serious problems

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Your story is very powerful and I hope that this Amy chick reads the message board when she gets back. She needs to hear how others have it so much worse than she does. In my opinion she doesn't have anything going wrong in her life and never did. If that's all she can complain about then she has it made. I myself am in renal failure and I'm scared to death. I have 4 other siblings but I can't receive a kidney from any of them because we all have Alports Syndrome, it's a rare disorder that usually only affects males but we seem to have hit the kidney jackpot. That's not why my kidneys are shutting down it's just the reason why I can't receive one. I also can't get one from my mother (the alports again) and my husband is diabetic, he's going to need his. I don't know what will happen when the time comes. I'll keep you in my prayers and I wish the very best for you. Sincerely, jewels
 hopefully, amy willread these posts and get some perspective. these are seriousproblems. wishing you both the best.
 
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May 23, 2008, 3:45 am PDT

I'm a glass is half full kinda girl.............

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   Look, let's face it , there is always someone in the crowd, who's glass is half empty and they are the victim.  This young woman gets a payoff for her many disappointments, and her family and friends tip-toe around  trying to take her seriously. 

 

   I'm so grateful that (except for one family member, there is always one) my family and friends wouldn't want to waste the good times on that kind of behavior.  We celebrate birthdays, anniversaries, weddings, the 4th of July, Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Years, etc... with the understanding we are doing the best we can for and by each other. It's damn good.

 

    Which brings me to a television program about out of control brides.  This program exposes women planning their wedding which is "all about them."  They are the most vulgar, insipid and selfish individuals.  I am always amazed that when they finally get to the ceremony, after these women have kicked, insulted, over spent, over-indulged themselves at everyones expense, there are only 10 to 15 people in attendance. I've wondered how much they were paid to show up.

 

   But I need to get back on track.  I suppose if her wedding was a legitimate train wreck I'd have sympathy.  It just seems to me, she's making every milestone event in her life a predictable train wreck.

 

    Oh well.... 

 

  

 

   

I admit that occasionally when I'm in so much pain that I start crying and asking "why me?" and saying that I can't take it anymore. But that is not the norm for me. I just try to get from one hour to the next and when I'm lucky, one day to the next. Usually though I look at my life and think of others such as ill children, terminal cancer patients, someone in a wheelchair, someone with no arms or legs, you get the picture and think "It could be worse". There is always a situation where someone has is worse than you do. So I consider that my glass is half full. I know what program you are talking about, I can't even watch it because I just wish someone would slap the bride and shake some sense into her. You were so on the mark with that one! I love your zest for life and your ability to see things for what they are and that your not willing to waste one precious moment. Good for you! Jewels

 

P.S. Have you noticed that it's not just bridezillas that feel they are so entitled? I run across people out in society that act like they are better than everybody else and they carry a sense of entitlement wherever they go. I wonder where they get this from? I don't think one person is better than another, with the exception of criminals and such.

 
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May 23, 2008, 10:06 am PDT

You are right!!!!!!!!

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Everything you said is so true! I can't believe the way the three of us all think alike. It's too bad that we don't live in the same town, I would LOVE that. I did indeed read your message about my husbands post, you sure made me smile. He has been so busy that I haven't been able to show him the responses to it yet. Don't you hate it when you send a message, read it on-line, and then can never find it again? It makes me nuts! I really appreciate your empathy concerning everything we have been through and the reason why I decided to tell so much about our hardships is because I see so many people on the show and the whiny guys here on the message board that have no clue what hardship really is. I feel that if something really horrible ever happened to them they would never be able to handle it. As we've said, life is too short and everyone needs to appreciate what good things they do have and not dwell on the bad stuff. About a month ago I read a post on here where on this one woman's wedding day her father passed away suddenly during her reception. I wanted to cry for her! I thought that was so sad, but you know what? She has gone on with her life and is happily married even though she has that heartbreaking memory to live with every day. It was great to hear from you and we will talk again soon, Jewels
Yes it is true, the 3 of us do think the same way !!
I would love it too, wouldn't be nice if we where in the same town (you can ask Penny if you want to contact me).

I think that it is a good thing that you do share your story as it can be helpful to some of the people on this board. It can show them that life can be difficult and even cruel sometimes and that to sweat over the small stuff is a HUGE waist of time and energy. Place your values and energy where it counts!!!

A wedding is not one of them!
 
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May 23, 2008, 12:49 pm PDT

"spoiled" youth

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'Sounds to me like too much emphasis on the "event" rather than the marriage. My husband and I were married 38  years ago and it rained all day. Get real! The bad weather had no bearing on the success or failure of our marriage. Young people today seem so spoiled and used to having Mommy or Daddy make everything "perfect" throughout their lives, that they have often  not had to face a disappointment or a challenge.

PS:  The idea of young people having "trial marriages" etc. is disturbing to me. If both parties don't go into a marriage with commitment and the determination to work through problems and issues, it's doomed from the beginning.

 maybe young people are a little spoiled today. but it's alsotrue thatyoung women today really know what they want -- about everything -- careers, relationships and yes, even weddings. not that we didn't years ago, but i think they feel more strongly and are more assertive about a lot of things. so it's undersandable that they are more disappointed when things go wrong.

still. i agreewith you that amy (and girls like her) place too much emphasis on the event. despite the mishaps,she married the man she loves and that's what matters the most.
 
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May 23, 2008, 12:55 pm PDT

turning lemons into lemonade

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Not long into the show, something came to mind. Perhaps because of my own horrible experiences becoming a chance for instruction rather than endless torture. Rather than the gal saying 'it's horrible, because I'm a weddings and events planner and look what happened!'  My thought is that, since it can't be changed, use the experience in your business! When brides-to-be are beyond anxious, she can share her experiences with a sense of humour and let them know that problems don't have to be the end. I can understand the loss of a lifelong perfect dream marriage. But since it didn't, use it. I suspect Amy is not the only once-bride who's had a disastrous ceremony. I'm sorry about what happened, but listen to your husband. He's not being nasty toward you about it, just tired of your unwillingness to get on with it. I'd listen to him.
 what a great idea about using her personal experience in her business! in addition to your advice, she could also tell couples not to trust the weather too much -- as in, don't assume ajulyday will be cooler in the later hours, etc. or maybe even "have a plan b hairdo?"
 
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May 23, 2008, 2:09 pm PDT

Contacting you.............

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Yes it is true, the 3 of us do think the same way !!
I would love it too, wouldn't be nice if we where in the same town (you can ask Penny if you want to contact me).

I think that it is a good thing that you do share your story as it can be helpful to some of the people on this board. It can show them that life can be difficult and even cruel sometimes and that to sweat over the small stuff is a HUGE waist of time and energy. Place your values and energy where it counts!!!

A wedding is not one of them!

Which penny are you talking about? Pennylane? I do want to be able to contact you and of course we want our e-addresses kept confidential. We need to get Julie's too. I admit I'm still kind if a computer virgin so you might have to explain something along the way. I hope I'm not that dumb, LOL!

   Let's talk soon, jewels

 
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