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(Original Air Date: 05/19/08) Many little girls dream of the perfect wedding day with a fairytale gown, beautiful flowers and their handsome groom, but Dr. Phil's guests say their wedding bells hit a sour note. Amy says the day she and Steve tied the knot turned into a disaster. The sun scorched the guests, then there was a downpour, the wedding arch fell and hit the pastor, and the cake crumbled as they were cutting it. She says it was a huge dream shattered, and she can't move past it. Steve says he had a blast, and Amy needs to lighten up. What does Dr. Phil think? Then, shortly after Mandy and her husband, Kris, said "I do," a three-story deck collapsed, and they and 30 of their family and friends were seriously injured.  Mandy says she left her wedding strapped to a stretcher, and she and Kris spent their wedding night in the emergency room. Although this took place over two years ago, the couple thinks about it every day. How can they overcome their guilt? And, Kurt and Brandi recently renewed their vows because they say they wanted a fresh start to their seven-year marriage. Just months after their ceremony, Kurt filed for divorce when he found out a secret Brandi had been keeping. Will the results of polygraph tests inspire this couple to make their marriage work or end it for good? Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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August 7, 2008, 3:04 pm PDT

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What this society lacks is EMPATHY pure and simple. 

 

  The fact of the matter is that I just read more than 2 dozen disaster stories from YOU POSTERS.  You didn't have to tell them, but you did.  

 

 It's alright for you to do it?

 

You guys could have all gotten married on your front lawns, in blue jeans, with Twinkies for wedding cakes, but you didn't.

 

If you think Amy is the problem, check out the next National Geographic special on tv.  Then maybe you can see what a big deal a wedding is in those cyclone and earthquake torn areas that YOU probably hadn't even heard of before 3 weeks ago.

 

By the way, it is pronounced ME- an- mar.

 

Weddings are big deals everywhere.  

It's all right for us to do whatever Dr Phil invites us to do. On this board, it's to share our wedding experiences. Like it or lump it!
 
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August 7, 2008, 3:15 pm PDT

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I need some advice! Okay...I want my Mom and Dad to walk me down the aisle. They are divorced, my Dad is remarried. They have been apart for 24 years! Now, my mom is completely fine with this. My Dad however, is throwing a fit! He says that it is a Dad's job and only he should do it and that he walked down the aisle once with my mom and he doesn't want to do it again. He says that how is his wife going to feel when he is up there with his ex-wife. Which doesn't matter in my book. And he has said if he has to do it he will shake my hand at the end of the aisle and hand it to my fiance.
Now my stepmom says that it would be like a slap in the face if this all happened when "raised" me. And says my mom wanted nothing to do with me until now which is not true at all. My mom was afraid to take me when every time she did, the stepmom would call child services on her and say that she beat her kids. Also not true. And she says our relationship will change after the wedding.

I don't understand any of this. I just see it as they are trying to ruin my big day. All I want is it to be fun and everyone to enjoy themselves. I don't want all the drama, especially from my Dad! Not even the bridesmaids! Everyone says he needs to suck it up because it is my day but I don't know what to do:( I need some major advice! PLEASE HELP!!! I don't know what to do.
If that is what you want at your wedding, to have your mother and father walk you down the aisle, well... go ahead girl, it is your day and your choice to make.

I am the mother of 3 grown children. I do have a daughter and if this would be her wish, I definitely would respect it !!

Your father should be able to understand this and so should your stepmother. That is called unconditional love!!!

Just like Jewels mentioned, I do not know who will be paying for your wedding but, in any case, it should not interfere with such a basic and reasonable wish of yours.

I wish you all the best of luck and a very happy life with your future husband !!!!
 
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August 8, 2008, 2:49 pm PDT

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I need some advice! Okay...I want my Mom and Dad to walk me down the aisle. They are divorced, my Dad is remarried. They have been apart for 24 years! Now, my mom is completely fine with this. My Dad however, is throwing a fit! He says that it is a Dad's job and only he should do it and that he walked down the aisle once with my mom and he doesn't want to do it again. He says that how is his wife going to feel when he is up there with his ex-wife. Which doesn't matter in my book. And he has said if he has to do it he will shake my hand at the end of the aisle and hand it to my fiance.
Now my stepmom says that it would be like a slap in the face if this all happened when "raised" me. And says my mom wanted nothing to do with me until now which is not true at all. My mom was afraid to take me when every time she did, the stepmom would call child services on her and say that she beat her kids. Also not true. And she says our relationship will change after the wedding.

I don't understand any of this. I just see it as they are trying to ruin my big day. All I want is it to be fun and everyone to enjoy themselves. I don't want all the drama, especially from my Dad! Not even the bridesmaids! Everyone says he needs to suck it up because it is my day but I don't know what to do:( I need some major advice! PLEASE HELP!!! I don't know what to do.
Oh lord...do adults REALLY behave this way?!

If I were you I'd just drop the whole "walking you down the aisle" thing completely. The symbol of the whole thing rubs me the wrong way personally anyway. This is just MY opinion of course, but just walk yourself down the aisle. You aren't being handed off to your new keeper. You are, hopefully, an independent woman. The symbolism in just walking yourself down the aisle is more appropriate for our culture anyway.

Also, it is "your day" to an extent...but you shouldn't make people do what they don't want to do. If your father clearly doesn't want to do this then just drop the whole thing. Just walk your independent self down the aisle. You don't want your parents blocking the view of your dress anyway right? LOL
 
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August 8, 2008, 9:00 pm PDT

I like this idea!

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Oh lord...do adults REALLY behave this way?!

If I were you I'd just drop the whole "walking you down the aisle" thing completely. The symbol of the whole thing rubs me the wrong way personally anyway. This is just MY opinion of course, but just walk yourself down the aisle. You aren't being handed off to your new keeper. You are, hopefully, an independent woman. The symbolism in just walking yourself down the aisle is more appropriate for our culture anyway.

Also, it is "your day" to an extent...but you shouldn't make people do what they don't want to do. If your father clearly doesn't want to do this then just drop the whole thing. Just walk your independent self down the aisle. You don't want your parents blocking the view of your dress anyway right? LOL

This is quite fashionable now and very many brides are doing this. If I were to remarry at this point, I would skip the whole escort down the aisle. I would have liked to do that at my first, actually second wedding but I never even thought of it. Of course, that was 21 years ago. When I say first and second wedding, I have to explain this. My husband and I were married very spur of the moment at the courthouse out of town where he happened to working at the time. I had already bought a very expensive designer wedding dress, it was sooooo beautiful, and many other things for a regular wedding. I didn't want them to go to waste and I certainly wasn't about to sell "my" dress to someone else. It was also important to me for our vows to have been said by a minister and not just a judge. So, we threw a quickie wedding together in less than 2 weeks for one month after we were originally married. This also had to do with including my husbands3 children in our union. They were all in the wedding. It was very small and held in my mothers back yard. I still never really had a wedding night and we still never had a honeymoon. But what we DO have is 21 glorious years together that I wouldn't change for the world. It truly is not the wedding that matters, I can tell you that, it's what happens in the years after that counts.

 

So, back to my original point, this is your second marriage right? I think that it would actually be more appropriate to walk yourself down the aisle because you have already been given away once before. You really can't be given away twice. If you think about it, doesn't that make a lot of sense? After you have been traditionally given away once before, you are no longer the property of your parents, you are your own woman. If I were in your shoes, this is exactly what I would do. And it has nothing to do with your parents, if you explain to them the way that I explained it, etiquette and all, I think this would be most appropriate and both of your parents should understand. Look for an etiquette book that has this in it or find the advice on the web, there are plenty of wedding etiquette websites to choose from. Find one, and show it to your parents.

 
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August 9, 2008, 1:17 pm PDT

to Jessicaab.

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I need some advice! Okay...I want my Mom and Dad to walk me down the aisle. They are divorced, my Dad is remarried. They have been apart for 24 years! Now, my mom is completely fine with this. My Dad however, is throwing a fit! He says that it is a Dad's job and only he should do it and that he walked down the aisle once with my mom and he doesn't want to do it again. He says that how is his wife going to feel when he is up there with his ex-wife. Which doesn't matter in my book. And he has said if he has to do it he will shake my hand at the end of the aisle and hand it to my fiance.
Now my stepmom says that it would be like a slap in the face if this all happened when "raised" me. And says my mom wanted nothing to do with me until now which is not true at all. My mom was afraid to take me when every time she did, the stepmom would call child services on her and say that she beat her kids. Also not true. And she says our relationship will change after the wedding.

I don't understand any of this. I just see it as they are trying to ruin my big day. All I want is it to be fun and everyone to enjoy themselves. I don't want all the drama, especially from my Dad! Not even the bridesmaids! Everyone says he needs to suck it up because it is my day but I don't know what to do:( I need some major advice! PLEASE HELP!!! I don't know what to do.
Well Jessica here you are with at least 2 solutions to resolve you problem.

I still think that your father should come around and let you have your wish to have both of your parents walk you down the aisle. I would call that your plan "A". Because if it is what you really want, you will always have that little resentment in the back of your mind and the thought that you would of liked to have your 2 parents accompany you to the alter.

However, if it is not possible, you can always resort to plan "B". This is the one that PennyLane suggested to you. It also makes a lot of sense. You can then walk yourself down the aisle alone, so then, nobody will be left out or offended, it will be just you !!

Good luck id finding your solution.
 
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August 9, 2008, 3:35 pm PDT

I could not agree with you more...

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If couples would put as much emphasis on planning the marriage as they do the wedding, there would be fewer divorces.  The wedding is one very expensive day, and if it's the high point of your life, you're in trouble. 

I could not agree more!  These days brides are getting too wrapped up in playing the princess on their wedding day and aren't concerned enough with what comes after the wedding -- the marriage!  I think it's ridiculous that grown women wear tiaras on their wedding day!  You're not a princess - get over it! Your wedding day should be about the joining together of two people and two lives.  It should be about unconditional love and commitment - NOT playing the princess in the final frame of some fairytale that really doesn't exist.  True, we women all dream about this day as little girls and I loved watching Cinderella and Sleeping Beauty as well, but come on - grow up!

I DO, however, believe in a reasonably priced wedding that celebrates two people who are in love and ready to make a life-long commitment.  I believe that that deserves to be celebrated!  However, too many brides and grooms today are going into major debt trying to plan a "perfect" wedding.  There is no such thing - just like there is no such thing as a "perfect" marriage.  I'm 29, just bought a new house with my husband in April and we got married July 7th of 2007 and my advice to young couples wanting to get married today is to spend a moderate amount of money on the wedding and save your money for a much more important investment - your house!  As my parents taught me - moderation in everything! (including weddings)

Hopefully these women will stop idealizing and obsessing about the details of their wedding day and start working on the long-range commitment of their MARRIAGE.  It is easy to plan a perfect wedding. It is a far more difficult task to maintain, nurture and grow a marriage that will last for decades to come.

 
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August 9, 2008, 5:21 pm PDT

To Jessicaab.

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I need some advice! Okay...I want my Mom and Dad to walk me down the aisle. They are divorced, my Dad is remarried. They have been apart for 24 years! Now, my mom is completely fine with this. My Dad however, is throwing a fit! He says that it is a Dad's job and only he should do it and that he walked down the aisle once with my mom and he doesn't want to do it again. He says that how is his wife going to feel when he is up there with his ex-wife. Which doesn't matter in my book. And he has said if he has to do it he will shake my hand at the end of the aisle and hand it to my fiance.
Now my stepmom says that it would be like a slap in the face if this all happened when "raised" me. And says my mom wanted nothing to do with me until now which is not true at all. My mom was afraid to take me when every time she did, the stepmom would call child services on her and say that she beat her kids. Also not true. And she says our relationship will change after the wedding.

I don't understand any of this. I just see it as they are trying to ruin my big day. All I want is it to be fun and everyone to enjoy themselves. I don't want all the drama, especially from my Dad! Not even the bridesmaids! Everyone says he needs to suck it up because it is my day but I don't know what to do:( I need some major advice! PLEASE HELP!!! I don't know what to do.
Well Jessica here you are with at least 2 solutions to resolve you problem.

I still think that your father should come around and let you have your wish to have both of your parents walk you down the aisle. I would call that your plan "A". Because if it is what you really want, you will always have that little resentment in the back of your mind and the thought that you would of liked to have your 2 parents accompany you to the alter.

However in my opinion, if it is not possible, you can always resort to plan "B". This is the one that PennyLane suggested to you. It also makes a lot of sense. You can then walk yourself down the aisle alone, so then, nobody will be left out or offended, it will be just you !!

Good luck id finding your solution.


 
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August 9, 2008, 8:00 pm PDT

Are you kidding me?

While I'm sure that having your wedding day befouled with bad weather is tragic. That first woman was a little overboard with the drama. The most profound thing I heard Dr. Phil say was that this woman was not "cursed" and that she should think more positively or she will set herself up for bad things to happen. I am just having difficulty with the amount of energy this woman is spending on something like this. I am a single mother of 5. I worked feverishly to support myself and the kids, and I eventually became very independent and self sufficient. My dream car was a BMW. I was finally able to afford it. Last year, a rain storm came, and in a freak flash flood, I lost the car. It was parked in front of my condo! I had no idea the condo was in a flood plain. I had been dating a surgeon for several years. A month after I lost the car, the boyfriend dumped me. A few weeks later, I decided to focus my energy elsewhere, so I drove from Maryland to North Carolina and bought my 7 year old twins a tea cup chihauhau. Little did I know, that this adorable puppy had a genetic defect, and despite $5,000 in vet bills and 24 hour nursing care, she died. I was standing in the lunchroom at work talking with the CEO about this course of events. He looked at me much like Dr. Phil looked at that woman with the rainy wedding, and said "Count your blessings. You have 5 healthy children, a nice place to live,  and a great job." A month later, my little girl was diagnosed with Acute Lymphoblastic Leukemia. She had never been sick a day in her life. Due to the devastating side efftects of chemotherapy, and the secondary things that occur with cancer, she requires 24 hour care. I gave up my job to care for her. Consequently, I lost my house and had to move in with a relative. These are the things that tragedy is made of. I would trade a rainy wedding day in a second for the hand of cards I've been dealt.  You just have to let it go, and be grateful for the positives in your life.

 
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August 10, 2008, 1:56 am PDT

I applaud you!

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I could not agree more!  These days brides are getting too wrapped up in playing the princess on their wedding day and aren't concerned enough with what comes after the wedding -- the marriage!  I think it's ridiculous that grown women wear tiaras on their wedding day!  You're not a princess - get over it! Your wedding day should be about the joining together of two people and two lives.  It should be about unconditional love and commitment - NOT playing the princess in the final frame of some fairytale that really doesn't exist.  True, we women all dream about this day as little girls and I loved watching Cinderella and Sleeping Beauty as well, but come on - grow up!

I DO, however, believe in a reasonably priced wedding that celebrates two people who are in love and ready to make a life-long commitment.  I believe that that deserves to be celebrated!  However, too many brides and grooms today are going into major debt trying to plan a "perfect" wedding.  There is no such thing - just like there is no such thing as a "perfect" marriage.  I'm 29, just bought a new house with my husband in April and we got married July 7th of 2007 and my advice to young couples wanting to get married today is to spend a moderate amount of money on the wedding and save your money for a much more important investment - your house!  As my parents taught me - moderation in everything! (including weddings)

Hopefully these women will stop idealizing and obsessing about the details of their wedding day and start working on the long-range commitment of their MARRIAGE.  It is easy to plan a perfect wedding. It is a far more difficult task to maintain, nurture and grow a marriage that will last for decades to come.

Here you are, somewhat young from what I can see in the picture, and a great head on your shoulders! I have always wondered why someone would spend that kind of money on a wedding and then have to scramble and scratch for years to come up with a down payment for a home, which I feel is one of the most important events that will ever happen in your life. I agree with every word of your post!
 
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August 10, 2008, 2:04 am PDT

I am wishing you my best..............

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While I'm sure that having your wedding day befouled with bad weather is tragic. That first woman was a little overboard with the drama. The most profound thing I heard Dr. Phil say was that this woman was not "cursed" and that she should think more positively or she will set herself up for bad things to happen. I am just having difficulty with the amount of energy this woman is spending on something like this. I am a single mother of 5. I worked feverishly to support myself and the kids, and I eventually became very independent and self sufficient. My dream car was a BMW. I was finally able to afford it. Last year, a rain storm came, and in a freak flash flood, I lost the car. It was parked in front of my condo! I had no idea the condo was in a flood plain. I had been dating a surgeon for several years. A month after I lost the car, the boyfriend dumped me. A few weeks later, I decided to focus my energy elsewhere, so I drove from Maryland to North Carolina and bought my 7 year old twins a tea cup chihauhau. Little did I know, that this adorable puppy had a genetic defect, and despite $5,000 in vet bills and 24 hour nursing care, she died. I was standing in the lunchroom at work talking with the CEO about this course of events. He looked at me much like Dr. Phil looked at that woman with the rainy wedding, and said "Count your blessings. You have 5 healthy children, a nice place to live,  and a great job." A month later, my little girl was diagnosed with Acute Lymphoblastic Leukemia. She had never been sick a day in her life. Due to the devastating side efftects of chemotherapy, and the secondary things that occur with cancer, she requires 24 hour care. I gave up my job to care for her. Consequently, I lost my house and had to move in with a relative. These are the things that tragedy is made of. I would trade a rainy wedding day in a second for the hand of cards I've been dealt.  You just have to let it go, and be grateful for the positives in your life.

What a happy and sad story at the same time. I was rooting for you when you were able to buy that BMW and managed to overcome the hurdles in your life. Raising 5 children alone is a very daunting thought in the first place but to be able to thrive on top of it? I really respect that! But about your daughter, I am so sorry that she is having to deal with this tragedy. I am wishing you my best and hoping that your daughter comes into remission very soon. It seems so unfair when this happens to children. If you could, would you please tell us what her prognosis is? If you don't want to talk about that I completely understand. I'm just hoping that it is good. My husband lost a son in a car accident so I know how it feels to have to deal with heartbreak and your children. Again, I'm hoping and wishing the very best for you and your daughter and hope that she gets well very soon. Take care of yourself.

Sincerely,

Jewels

 
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