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Created on : Friday, August 29, 2008, 12:02:37 pm
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Good fences make good neighbors, but Dr. Phil’s guests say no matter how high the fence, they can’t seem to end their vicious feud. Linda says Tamara is a menace to society and should be kicked out of their community. She says Tamara sent her harassing e-mails and threatened to kill her. Tamara says she’s the victim in this neighborhood war and is on the verge of losing her home because of Linda’s false accusations. She says Linda and her daughter, Holly, stalked her, tormented her family and spray painted the words “lying bitch” on her home. Then, Holly and Tamara's daughter, Jessica, join the fray. Jessica claims that she and her husband, Scott, are the victims of discrimination because he’s black, and she says they were harassed so much that they had to leave the community. Holly says that Jessica is the troublemaker and says she threatened to beat Linda over the head with a baseball bat. With all the finger-pointing, who’s telling the truth? Can Tamara and Linda bury the hatchet and move on before someone is forced to move out? Tell us what you think!

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September 6, 2008, 5:06 pm PDT

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I live in a very diverse neighborhood--Mexican-Americans, a hippy couple, most of us are not high up on the economic scale.  My husband & I are artistic & offbeat. All of us own or rent little houses.  The kids in this neighborhood are high energy & play a lot outdoors.  My husband & I do not have kids but we understand about kids.  During one game of catch, a baseball came through our garage window.  Instead of screaming & yelling, we decided to ignore it & be cool about it.  A few days later, the father of one of the boys asked us how our window got broken. We were all our in our yards, enjoying the summer sun. The two boys were afraid we were going to tell on them, so they both started talking over top of each other "We didn't DO it! We didn't mean to!"  The fathers told their boys they'd have to work to make up for that window. It was resolved without any mean feelings & we are still quite friendly with the families. No big deal. Sometimes our neighbors have very loud parties---like the Quinzanaras.  If the music is still loud after 10:30 on a work night, my husband will go over & politely ask that they turn the music down.  Often, they are not even aware of how loud it is.  They always turn it down.  Sometimes we are invited to the parties & it's wonderful to experience the Mexican American celebrations.  We feel we have learned a lot from our diverse neighbors & even tho' we are happy without kids, we are glad that our neighbors' kids are enjoying a fun childhood.  The first day we moved here, I was waiting for a bus to go to work.  I heard a kid on a skateboard heading toward me so I stepped into the yard next to the bus stop.  The kid on the skateboard said "Sorry!" and picked up the board & walked past me, then got back on it. Just that type of polite, respectfulness to each other can make all the difference.  I pray that these women will Let Go & allow their kids a Peaceful, fun childhood
WELL STATED!
 
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September 6, 2008, 5:55 pm PDT

This is just sad....

I just want to say that I was totally blown away by these people.  What a sad example they are setting for their children.  The only positive thing about the whole show was the fact that at least the one couple of guests actually admitted that they had some ownership in this whole ridiculous situation.  I'm sure none of them really care what I think, but I'll just say that I am employed as a public servant.  There are people in this country who are so sick they can't work and are losing everything they have.  There are people who have no health insurance, get sick and can't afford to go get treatment.  There are people who get up every morning, go to work, work like slaves, and can barely put food in their children's mouths.  And, these four women have started a war over who is in charge of a HomeOwner's Association.  It's beyond pathetic.  Why don't you channel some of that energy into helping someone less fortunate?  One other thing, my sister is a cop.  She's not big as a minute, but she's the toughest, albiet most compassionate person I know.  If you think she would have wasted her time coming out to deal with this nonsense 150 times, you've got another thing coming.  She'd probably have dragged you all in to jail.  And, you would have deserved it. 
 
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September 7, 2008, 2:20 am PDT

If I had neighbors like these...........

Man, while I watched this show I cringed throughout the whole thing! I would rather be forced to live in a 4x4 cell with the dentist and grandma from "Vigilante Justice" for 5 years than have to live in this neighborhood for a week!

 
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September 7, 2008, 5:43 pm PDT

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     These neighbors if they don't want to move then they just get stuck living next to each other. Since they cant get along the only way can live next to each other is to be enemy's

    I'm glad I don't live where they live..............

 
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September 7, 2008, 7:51 pm PDT

white trash?

I didn't get to see the show  because I  work full time in the daytime. But from the sound of the posts, this sounds like a white trash neighborhood. These people are lucky to even have a home to live in too. with all of the foreclosures going on and the homeless problem in this country. These people should be counting their lucky stars that they have a home to live in! Seriously!
 
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September 7, 2008, 9:19 pm PDT

Nasty neighbor's!

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     These neighbors if they don't want to move then they just get stuck living next to each other. Since they cant get along the only way can live next to each other is to be enemy's

    I'm glad I don't live where they live..............

Think about it this way, as long as they live next to each other, they won't be living next to us! Yahoo!

 
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September 8, 2008, 7:16 am PDT

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Hello to all that have replied to this topic, Just wanted to let everyone know that after the show that things really took a turn for the better. 

 

I would like to say a few words to a few people who have been replying to this show, even though I may not  associate with Linda or her family I do not think it is very nice to call her (Linda) or her daughter (Holly) nor my family names.  I did not contact Dr. Phil for people to take judgement against either family, I was trying to resolve a very bad situation.  This was a last resort for my family and hers.  I reached out many times to our community/officials to help with this which included mediation and they would not participate.

 

I understand that the viewers did not get the facts since the show was in termoil and I do appologize to all of the viewers for this, This is not what was suppose to happen, again I am very sorry to all.

 

Note my grandchild is doing fantastic and just started school the other day her mom and dad are very happy in their new home.

 

Another update that I would like to say is I did not lose my home and things have been great here on the home front a few of the people who was involved in this matter have moved away which I think helped the situation.

 

Also I did go to court for an eviction and at my request had a jury trial of my peers and the eviction was found in my favor that I could keep my home and the events that I was accused of were false.  My community  GOD bless them almost 22 people came to court on my behalf  and stood up and spoke the trueth. 

 

I want to thank Dr. Phil and his staff for all that was done and the offers that were given after the show ended they were great. 

 

I understand alot was said on the show I just hope that if someone has an opinion it will be juist that and not an attack on anyone, yes there was alot said that can be judged on for the deception and so forth and this is fine to say what you seen but please do not call another person ugly maybe ones actions are ugly but not as a person. 

 

Thank you

Tam

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nobody called names...at least not as bad as you and Linda and your daughters did, so its a bit laughable that you take the moral high ground so fresh from the fray.  What you read from us are opinions and judgments based on what we saw after you called the show and put yourself out there for us to opine and judge.  I think you thought people would take your side and not condemn you as we have.  I had a similar experience but wasn't so naive to think I would be judged favorably in the court of public opinion after what I said to my neighbor...You brought it to light so deal with it.
 
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September 8, 2008, 1:09 pm PDT

more nasty neighbors

 

We live in a townhouse community in Dallas, TX. The majority of our neighbors are retired (like us), and since the neighborhood is rather small, most of us know and look out for one another.  Also, most people here have owned their homes for a number of years (retired people don't have the financial resources to move around a lot). We've been here since 1984.  Properties don't "turn over" very often, and most vacancies are caused by an owner's death.  The neighborhood has been a sort of peaceful oasis for a long time, until the past year. A woman moved in two doors from us, and immediately began to harrass all of the neighbors around us.  The streets are public, with no assigned parking spaces.  This person has taken it upon herself to threaten anyone who parks anywhere close to her home.  She attempts to get people ticketed by the police, she writes obscene (unsigned) notes and leaves them in mailboxes and on windshields, and she has verbally threatened to slash the tires on neighbors' vehicles.  Several vehicles have been vandalized (keyed).  No one can catch her doing this, but her boyfriend tells the neighbors she does these things and then brags about it at her workplace.  It would do no good to try to get her co-workers to testify, as it would be "hearsay".  She has also threatened to poison neighbors' dogs, and threw a plastic bag of feces into a neighbor's backyard.  We have repeatedly complained to the Homeowners' Assn., and they have a file on her.  We are afraid someone's grandchildren might get hurt when visiting in the neighborhood.  The problem is, until she is "caught in the act", no one can do anything to prosecute her.  I have thought about sitting up at night across the street from her house, and filming her with an infrared camera.  I don't know if that would stand up in court or not.  When she is confronted, she begins to scream and rage.  I would like to see if she can be held for a mental evaluation.

 
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September 9, 2008, 11:06 am PDT

Evil People

I have a similar problem to all of the aforementioned situations. A year and a half ago I quit my job as a probation officer to stay at home.  Shortly before I had quit I had met a woman (HL) at the pool who had a daughter the same age as my daughter, and as luck would have it she was also a stay at home mom.  I befriended this woman and her next door neighbor (KA) who has a son also my daughter's age.  I begain to hang around these women and attend their neighborhood get togethers.  We would watch each other's children and go shopping together. I taught these women some crafts that I make and so on.  You get the picture.  One day HL came to me and said that my daughter was at her house and said my mom sticks her hand down her pants and eats it.  Initially I was going laugh because it was so outlandish but saw the seriousness on HL's face and said "I wonder if anyone has hurt her?". I then went home and asked my daughter about the comment and she reminded me we were at Wal-Mart earlier in the week and she had gotten some feces on her hands and I explained and made a gesture to "down there" and that we don't put our hands down there and then made a gesture towards my mouth and said because we don't want it to get in our mouths and that it is full of germs and is YUCKY.  From this my daughter assumed that I did that and proceeded to tell the neighbor this. I went down and told HL the information that my daughter had given me.  About a week later I got a letter from Social Services saying that I was being investigated for molesting my daughter.  A social worker came out and said that there were three allegations.  The first was that I told HL that my daughter had been molested by a teacher.  My daughter has never been to school and nor did I say that.  Secondly, HL reported that my daughter said that she could not ride a bike because her privates hurt and that I had told HL that my daughter's privates were "SPLIT" and that her husband and KA's husband molested her.  Again my daughter had said that and her privates were hurt. She had worn a life jacket all day that had a strap that went through her legs.  Apparently the jacket was too lose and was riding up while she was in the water causing the strap to chaif her. I had called my doctor and he advised to put vasaline on it and have her sit on the toliet backwards to prevent any urine from getting on the irritation for a period of time.  I never went and accused their husbands of doing anything to my daughter.  If I thought that I would have called law enforcement and I would not have allowed her to spend the night at their house after this alleged incident.  The third allegation was me sticking my hands down my pants and having my daughter watch.  The Social Worker talked with my daughter and came down the stairs and asked me what I did to these women to make them hate me so bad. I was so shocked I could not believe these were my friends that did this.

HL sent me a nasty letter saying that I was turning it all around on me and taking the focus off of my daughter.  I told her that the allegations were unfounded and  unsubstantated and she told me to refrain from coping text from my PROBATION OFFICER manual.  She continued to say that I did the things that she reported I did. I eventually stopped emailing her back and tried to seperate myself from the situation.  However, my daughter was begging to see her friends and she constantly was crying about not getting to play with them. I found her new friends and made extra efforts to get her new friends and play dates. 

One day the two moms HL and KA told me to come to their house and they would talk to me. I went down there stupidly trying to work on this so my daughter did not have to lose these friends. When I got down there they told me I was a negligant mother and that I was to blame for all of this.  They said they could not believe that I don't care about my daughter or what has happenend to her.  When I repeatedly said nothing has happened they continued to say that they know it has.  I finally stood up and said you can't fix stupid and left. They sent text messages and called my house repeatedly and I blocked their numbers and emails from reaching me.  Since that time they have gone around the neighborhood and held parties where people have come and told me that they are telling everyone I am an unregistered sex offender and my daughter has been molested.  I have been behind them when they have said this while at the school.  I am the PTO president and a cub scout den leader. I have many people who are my friends but the people who don't know me are believing this crap.  My daughter is now in kindergarten and she went to school and made a friend and it is the little girl of one of the ladies I overheard talking about me. I can't let my daughter go over there and play and she won't let her chilld over to my house.  For a year and a half this has been going on and I have been unable to move forward. I went to go see a therapist on Monday and her advice was to move.  We financially cannot really afford that right now. She said I needed to get my kids out of the school too. My children love their school and have tons of friends in the school. I am not sure this is the way to go. I agree this has devistated me and hurt me beyond belief but isn't there anything else I can do?  HELP!!

 
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September 10, 2008, 12:44 pm PDT

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Quote From: saffron20

I didn't get to see the show  because I  work full time in the daytime. But from the sound of the posts, this sounds like a white trash neighborhood. These people are lucky to even have a home to live in too. with all of the foreclosures going on and the homeless problem in this country. These people should be counting their lucky stars that they have a home to live in! Seriously!
White trash?  Tsk. Tsk. Tsk. Racist comment. Would you say Asian trash, or Black trash?  Trash is trash and it's pretty colourless if you ask me. Those people definitely seemed  to qualify. Colour not withstanding.
 
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