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Two sisters say their mother always appeared to others as the perfect mom, but behind closed doors was no mother at all. Angela and Amanda harbor angry feelings toward their mom, Ruthie, and have not spoken to her in months. The sisters use words like "phony," "incompetent" and "sociopath" to describe her, have written letters in an effort to give her a wake-up call and now look to Dr. Phil for help getting through to her. When their dad remarried, they say she showed up at the wedding and had to be chased off the premises. They’re especially concerned for their three teenaged siblings still living in the home, and they believe that their mother will do anything to win the teens' love, including throwing drinking parties -- one of which landed on YouTube. You won't believe what they say their mother will do to win the teen's love. After months of estrangement, Ruthie faces her daughters and denies all of their allegations. Hear firsthand accounts of what Ariel, Ruthie's 16 year old daughter, says is really going on under Ruthie's roof. Was the last party really a set-up for the police? And Ariel makes a tearful plea. Will her mother be moved by it? Heavy-hitting lawyer Gloria Allred gives sound legal advice that no parent of a teenager should miss! Join the discussion.

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September 7, 2008, 9:46 am PDT

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It makes me very sad to learn how many women do know how to put their children first.  Most and I mean this, most Mom's that I know that are in their early 30's think they are to be best friends with their children.  They do not dress age appropriate (which does not mean they need to dress like an old woman).  They enjoy the attention from their daughters boyfriends.  I wondered what our generation (born 1952) did that was so wrong that these young Mom's think this is Mothering.  I cannot believe women have to put their handbags beside the baby seat in the back seat in order to remember their child is in the car.  Our lives were just as pressured and hectic.  We had jobs, children, gardens to hoe and food to can, cleaning, shopping, pumping our own gasoline and none of the kitchen conveniences this generation has, and I did not know anyone who "forgot" their child.  Perhaps the "Party Mom" comes from where we talked too much to our children and they refuse to grow up and want to stay children with their children.  I do not know,but it's sad.  One gal I know is having a baby and is expecting her 8th. grade daughter to home school to help her stay home and take care of the expected child.  I just have to say "what is wrong with these women"?  It must have something to do with needing attention and getting it in one of the most sick ways.  When young women show this side of themselves to me, in order to save conflict, I must remove myself from these ladies.  They do not even know they could be ladies.  They describe themselves as being "hot".  Attractive and cute, but save the word "hot" if used at all, for a man to say to his wife in private.  The term "muffin top" came from the 30 some gals dressing like their daughters with their little roll of fat hanging over their "skinny jeans".  When I was in my 30's, no one had to tell me how to dress when I was a bit overweight.  The saga continues, and again, I think they party to win the attention of the young men and play "party buddy" with their daughters.  It is selfish and it causes gals to do stupid things like loose their children and give them sleeping medications.  I am so thankful for my properly dressed Mother, who worked, and I always knew I would have a homemade meal on the table when I came home from school.  She taught me right from wrong and gave me the privacy to have my own friends, while in turn she had her own friends. I did not party with my daughter and if she parties with her daughter, I will speak my mind.  If she looses her baby, I will pray for her, but hope no one connects the dots and realize that I failed to do my job as a mother.  This generation is not the first generation with career mothers, busy mothers, and I don't think it has anything to do with fun. I think these women are sick.  I do not know what is lacking in their lives, but can they not read a few good books on motherhood and then make up their own minds as to what a proper mother should be.  I hang my head in grief and shame for them and my heart aches for their children who will learn nothing about motherhood from their own mothers.  I am ranting, but it is so sad.
 
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September 7, 2008, 12:07 pm PDT

What about raising the age for drivers license

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We can see that it has not effected your brain any???

 

Every 5 seconds a teen has a drug or alcohol related traffic accident

 

12,000 teen death per year do to underage drinking and driving.

 

40,000 drivers are disfigured in accident with teen drunk drivers or  on drugs abuse.

 

CDC 4,554 death do to  excessive use of alcohol by underage drinking.

 

Thought you should know way more about underage drinking.

The human brain matures around age 20 or 21. A lot of 16-19 year olds think that they are immortal and they dont even need alcohol or drugs to die. Foolish and bizarre accidents caused by thoughtless behavior claims some lives every year.

With our 16 year purchase limit and our 200 year old tradition of introducing alcohol at the confirmation the number of alcohol related accidents are 567 (All agegroups) and 112 lost their lives in 2007.

See link to statistic:
http://www.sikkertrafik.dk/a5c83e80

We are only 5,000,000 people, but our number are so much smaller even if we counts DUI and DWI convictions (8847 in 2006).

Fines for DUI are based on the income as reported by our IRS and a typical fine is a months pay plus alcohol awareness classes that have to be passed BEFORE people can drive again. People are responsible for how long they are banned. Some give up driving and then they dont have to take the classes.

Your fines for DUI are a joke. If such a person like Paris Hilton had been caught in Denmark, her fine would have been over 100,000 dollars based on her income.

But while our population have an avarage intake of 11 liters of pure alcohol per year, higher agelimit for driving have shown that it reduce the number of killed of our road more than any campaign against DUI.
 
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September 7, 2008, 12:40 pm PDT

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Please show respect for this mother of 5 who has been disrespected and abandoned by her husband.  This allows the kids to disrespect her also.  For the 2 daughters that have issues with her, treat her like a mother and quit disrespecting her....she's your mother.   No mother is perfect.  I could probably look back at my life and blame all of my problems on my parents but you have to get over it and grow up.  For the 16 year old who shouldn't be living there....go live with your father.  For the 18 year old who drinks at his moms and at his dads.....grow up and quit disrespecting and causing stress to your parents....and please quit drinking. 

 

The father should be held grossly negligent for leaving his 3 younger kids with a mentally ill woman (in his opinion).  If he thinks she is mentally ill, then she needs help.  She didn't need her husband to leave her and get married only 1 year after their divorce.  Does not one person have compassion for this woman's emotional state?  Of course she is going to not be competent to parent her kids when her kids believe that she is mentally ill and their father didn't do a thing about it but leave her. 

 

I think all 3 kids need to go live with their father and give the mom time to grieve the divorce and heal.  The two older girls need to support their mother and act like loving daughters instead of ladies who are going to have issues with their mom for the rest of their life because of something that happened when they were 5.

Hundreds of thousands of mothers have been "disrespected and abandoned" by their husbands, but that's NO excuse to behave like a lunatic.  How do you expect her daughters to treat her when she has been such a poor excuse for a mother to them? No one is asking for perfection...just common sense!

 

And, by the way, respect has to be EARNED; it's not a given...and this mother has not earned any respect at all.

 
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September 7, 2008, 5:47 pm PDT

3 ways to identify a dangerous parent?

The advertisements for the show promised to tell us 3 ways to “Identify Dangerous Parents”

 

I had to go out and wait for the school bus and I guess I missed the 3.  Does anyone have those?

 

Thanks in advance.

 
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September 7, 2008, 6:32 pm PDT

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You said that the mom is delusional and that the husband is lucky that he got out when he did.  What ever happened to better or for worse, to sickeness and in health.  The husband sure did get out and left his 3 younger kids with that delusional woman........who do you think is delusional now? 
Vows do not say in sicknes, health, and in psycho!       Obviously the kids were  not talking bad about the father.   I feel bad for those kids.  Not that mom.   She is cold, distant,  angry, bitter.....   and she took it out on the kids, and now is tring to be a freind to the younger ones,  not a mom.    
 
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September 7, 2008, 7:36 pm PDT

09/05 Party Mom

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Vows do not say in sicknes, health, and in psycho!       Obviously the kids were  not talking bad about the father.   I feel bad for those kids.  Not that mom.   She is cold, distant,  angry, bitter.....   and she took it out on the kids, and now is tring to be a freind to the younger ones,  not a mom.    
"psycho" is in health!!!!  If my kids were with someone who I thought was psycho, I would fight for them and not allow them to live there.  The guy left his wife and left his kids also.  Who's pyscho?  The man who leaves his kids with a woman he thinks is psycho or the woman who has to face raising the kids alone because her ex is off with a new family?  The ex husband has it way too easy and I think the kids need to live with him.  If the kids are not talking badly about their father, why in the world do they not live with him??? ??????????????????????????
 
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September 7, 2008, 7:38 pm PDT

09/05 Party Mom

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Hundreds of thousands of mothers have been "disrespected and abandoned" by their husbands, but that's NO excuse to behave like a lunatic.  How do you expect her daughters to treat her when she has been such a poor excuse for a mother to them? No one is asking for perfection...just common sense!

 

And, by the way, respect has to be EARNED; it's not a given...and this mother has not earned any respect at all.

I honestly believe she has a mental problem because of the neglect and abandonement from her ex husband.  Why don't they all go live with their dad whom they all seem to "respect".??????
 
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September 7, 2008, 7:49 pm PDT

09/05 Party Mom

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It makes me very sad to learn how many women do know how to put their children first.  Most and I mean this, most Mom's that I know that are in their early 30's think they are to be best friends with their children.  They do not dress age appropriate (which does not mean they need to dress like an old woman).  They enjoy the attention from their daughters boyfriends.  I wondered what our generation (born 1952) did that was so wrong that these young Mom's think this is Mothering.  I cannot believe women have to put their handbags beside the baby seat in the back seat in order to remember their child is in the car.  Our lives were just as pressured and hectic.  We had jobs, children, gardens to hoe and food to can, cleaning, shopping, pumping our own gasoline and none of the kitchen conveniences this generation has, and I did not know anyone who "forgot" their child.  Perhaps the "Party Mom" comes from where we talked too much to our children and they refuse to grow up and want to stay children with their children.  I do not know,but it's sad.  One gal I know is having a baby and is expecting her 8th. grade daughter to home school to help her stay home and take care of the expected child.  I just have to say "what is wrong with these women"?  It must have something to do with needing attention and getting it in one of the most sick ways.  When young women show this side of themselves to me, in order to save conflict, I must remove myself from these ladies.  They do not even know they could be ladies.  They describe themselves as being "hot".  Attractive and cute, but save the word "hot" if used at all, for a man to say to his wife in private.  The term "muffin top" came from the 30 some gals dressing like their daughters with their little roll of fat hanging over their "skinny jeans".  When I was in my 30's, no one had to tell me how to dress when I was a bit overweight.  The saga continues, and again, I think they party to win the attention of the young men and play "party buddy" with their daughters.  It is selfish and it causes gals to do stupid things like loose their children and give them sleeping medications.  I am so thankful for my properly dressed Mother, who worked, and I always knew I would have a homemade meal on the table when I came home from school.  She taught me right from wrong and gave me the privacy to have my own friends, while in turn she had her own friends. I did not party with my daughter and if she parties with her daughter, I will speak my mind.  If she looses her baby, I will pray for her, but hope no one connects the dots and realize that I failed to do my job as a mother.  This generation is not the first generation with career mothers, busy mothers, and I don't think it has anything to do with fun. I think these women are sick.  I do not know what is lacking in their lives, but can they not read a few good books on motherhood and then make up their own minds as to what a proper mother should be.  I hang my head in grief and shame for them and my heart aches for their children who will learn nothing about motherhood from their own mothers.  I am ranting, but it is so sad.
I think what is lacking in their lives is a marriage.  Divorces are common and easy now.  Mom's are stuck raising their kids by themselves and the ex husbands are off with new wives.  I'm not blaming just men, ex husbands could be stuck raising the kids alone or co parent with their ex, or co parent with a step mom or step dad.  There is no foundation for kids anymore.  It is the norm to have parents who are not married.   There are no rules at home and kids get away with almost anything at school.  My daughter took a video with her cell phone of her math class and it was chaos, kids were messing around and out of their seats and the teacher had no control.   It's pathetic.
 
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September 7, 2008, 9:43 pm PDT

name of the book recommended

What was the name and author of the book parenting from the inside? i think
 
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September 8, 2008, 2:54 am PDT

09/05 Party Mom

This woman is being selfish in everyday possible. She cares about her ex-husband more than her children. It's pathetic. She is a "victim" and I feel very badly for her children. This kind of crap makes me grateful for my good fortune in having wonderful parents who wouldn't act like a child as this woman obviously did!
 
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