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Topic : 09/12 The N-Word Debate

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This two-syllable expression is arguably the most divisive word in society. Dr. Phil tackles this touchy topic with help from a panel of outspoken luminaries: civil rights activist Rev. Al Sharpton; legendary comedian and writer Paul Mooney; CSI actor and author Hill Harper; comedian Sheryl Underwood and conservative radio talk show host Michael Graham. First, is there a double standard that allows African-Americans to use this sensitive word, while non-blacks are forbidden? The debate heats up when Rachel, a white guest, says she calls her husband the N-word all the time. Then, should hip-hop artists be censored or fined for using the N-word in their songs? Becky says rappers promote negative stereotypes with their lyrics, but find out who Rev. Al Sharpton thinks should face the music. Plus, does tone or intent make a difference when using the N-word? See what Dr. Phil thinks and share your thoughts here.

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September 13, 2008, 4:43 am PDT

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I meant segregate not desegregate
 
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September 13, 2008, 5:08 am PDT

AMERICAN-AFRICAN?

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i t hink paul mooney really needs to get over it!! he acts as if he was personally held as a slave..WE have done nothing to HIM and he acts as if HE PERSONALLY was one....i'm sorry, but he's one who thinks we owe him EVERYTHING and we do NOT....i'm sorry, but now its the white people who are discriminated against...he said the white woman is a minority and will become extinct...but then when a white woman from the audience said she is discriminated against every day, he got all huffy and said no way and that she had NO IDEA what it was like....i guess he likes to feel the african americans are the only ones...please paul mooney, you are the one sounding like the moron...
I am more offended by the use of AFRICAN-American.  Even if you were born in Africa, which I doubt any of the panel members were, you are American!  I have AMERICAN-Indian in my family, but I don't ask anyone to call me anything but AMERICAN.  If you can call me white, why can't I just call you black?  Yes, I know you're not really black but 'Hello!', we don't look like casper either!  I was born and raised in Alabama.  The KKK burned a cross in my father's front yard when I was six years old because we played with the black children.  In our community there was the white quarters and the n***** quarters separated by one street.  We all played together, grew up together, ate together, went to church together and spent the night together just like your kids do with their best friends.  My Mom still owns the home where I grew up.  There is still the black side and the white side.  We no longer call the black side 'n*****quarters' because we know it's sensitive now.  But, there was never ill intent when we used that phrase as children of the 60's and 70's.  When I talk to my childhood black friends, they all agree that the subject has gotten out of hand.  They were born in AMERICA and they are not AFRICAN! 
 
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September 13, 2008, 5:20 am PDT

reenah

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ok, i'm getting really sick of white people thinking they have any right to make a judgement on this.   i'm white so i can say this.  yes, slavery did end a  long time ago, however; the wounds and legacy continues because of many white people's lack of resposibility and ignorance for their forfathers hidious creation of slavery.  how dare anyone say "just get over it".  you could never know all the pain these people went through.  also, how can they get over it if white america keeps perpetuating fear for the black race and holding so many opportunites back from many well qualified african americans.  i believe the black american has every right to use that word.  black people didn't make the word but it was given to them in a mean spirited way.  no white person should ever say it outloud.  you have no business using that word and why would you want to.  the caucasion race needs to take their medicine for their forfathers mistakes so that nothing like that ever happens again..  

The one thing i've learned about human nature is that ,you can never change a persons character no matter what you do. Oh sure, some try to change; they may even genuinely want to change but their basic nature wont let them. In the end their true character will shine through because, however hard they try, they just cant hide it. so, if you keep your eyes open you do see that, and if it is some thing you dont want near you, then the worst thing you could do is convince yourself that you can change anyone individual for the better because you just cant well, not without professional help anyway and in some cases not even then. Its sad to say but that's just the way it is.

 

 

 
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September 13, 2008, 5:32 am PDT

reenah

All i have to say about this subject is not necessarily "Get Over It"!! but we shouldnt let it get to us so much. As a black person i have had my fair share of racisim (ofcourse i can not compare it to the suffering are black American brothers and sisters have endured) especially those who actually lived ti. I have just come to the point where i do not take any notice; do not take it personally, that's my motto. Otherwise it can very easily take over your whole life. You can never be truely happy unless you let it go and not carry it around.

 

The way i see it if anyone makes a racist remark to me or treats me in a certain way, its them who have a problem not me. i simply do not allow anyone to gaude me into anything, be it a reaction or urgument in response to something they said or did. Not unless its a violent phisical attack, in which case i'll try to do what i cat to defend myself that's all. I am not just going to sit there and let anyone inflict phisical pain on me or worse just because i happen to have the wrong color, oh no. I am nice but not that nice

 
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September 13, 2008, 6:00 am PDT

Mooney should have been asked to leave the stage!

I was extremely suprised that Dr. Phil allowed Paul Mooney to scream, rant, rave and berrate members of the studio audience the way that idiot [Mooney] did.  In the past, I've observed Dr. Phil tell an onstage guest to back off of his studio audience or he will have the guest removed from the stage.  IMO Mooney should have been removed in that he was not debating, he was screaming at people.  Unacceptable.
 
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September 13, 2008, 6:01 am PDT

N- word

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Children do live with what they learn you can see that in any family the way there parents were brought up is the way there children will be
In my household my children were raise that was a swear word. I feel adults teach their rudeness and lack of respect for others. I was raised by my mother and she always taught us people are to be respected just like the way you would want them to treat you not by their color. There are cruelity in all races. Here is a small story about someone I know who was very predijuice This father was so upset with his daughter cause she dated a black man. Well I sat down with him for months and was telling him would you rather it be a white man who abused your daughter and grandchildren or would you rather it be a man who would respect and treat them the way it should be. I said to him is it really worth never seeing or talking to your daughter again. Guess what his son in law is the most wonderful man. He thanks me everyday. The funny thing of this story is my daughter was dating a black man for 2 yrs and this family put her through hell.  Peole need to stop looking at color and start looking at the person and one other thing God did not look at color and say to himself let me cause racism. 
 
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September 13, 2008, 6:06 am PDT

The eradication of the word n****r

I'm a 29yr old African American male that strongly believes in the eradication of this terrible word. First off, I have a blogsite I started last year discussing this issue. The site is as follows: www.ihatethenword.blogspot.com. I really hope you all support this because it starts right now to begin spreading real love and not pure hate. Secondly, we as adults 'SHOULD' know right from wrong. So all of this defending the 'N' word crap is just crazy, when it has caused so much hurt, pain, and humiliation. I may not have grown up during the water hoses, the dogs, the lynchings, etc., but I do know that we as a race have come a long way from nothing to something. All black people are not thugs, gang members, criminals, dead beats, etc. Instead of being looked at as people and not the latter, we have to work twice as hard just because a lot of us are still lost and think that we are actually ignorant, lazy, lowly valued citizens, which is the definition of a n****r. And by changing the way it's said is not only ridiculous, it just further shows how lost we still are and how racist, regardless of ethnicity, we really are. We all need to get it together, pull together like a family should and go back to the olden days of having love and respect for your fellow neighbor. Regardless of ethnicity, this word should not be used, 'ESPECIALLY' by us black people because those who really have a reason to complain about the word, are not even alive today. We have been literally killed while being called this and now we are killing each other while using the word still, but against ourselves. Now it's gotten out of hand because the so-called term of endearment is now on for everyone, due to freedom of speech. If you ask me, other races don't have to call us the 'N' word because a lot of us act that way anyway. And because of the ones that act that way, we all get labeled as n*****s and not ordinary people. If you really want to use the word, then know the true definition and history behind it before you use it. As for other races using the word, just go back in time to the lynchings, the kidnappings, the hatred, just because of the color of your skin, and then imagine this being you. Think about it. Let's finally bury a word that was meant in the first place to bury us to begin with. I love you all and hope to read and communicate with you all through my blogsite. Thanks and God bless.

 
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September 13, 2008, 6:11 am PDT

09/12 The N-Word Debate

The bottom line is if we want to be seen for the person we are before the color of our skin, then we need to not use words to acknowledge people that points out the first the we noticed and catagorized them by was the color of their skin.  Whether you mean it as a term of endearment or not, you can't argue in one breath that you can use a word that catagorizes a person by the color of their skin, and in the next breath say that you should be allowed equal rights as everyone else and not be dismissed, judged, or looked at as inferior by the color of your skin.

 

Everyone is green.  Why can't we just treat people for the person they are and the character they choose to put out there, instead of assume a person is a certain way because of their race.

 
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September 13, 2008, 6:24 am PDT

Im Rachel from the show

MOST blacks are the reason MOST whites dont like them. You need to realize it is no longer about color its all about your bad attitude. Now go ahead smart educated people gives me your closeing words of wisdom and prove me right
 
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September 13, 2008, 6:25 am PDT

The N-word debate

What the show failed to bring to the discussion is this: What does the word mean ? Not what does it mean to me, but what does it mean? It is a most hateful word that has a history behind it. A history where the slave master would constantly call our ancestors this word, when he used the whip on them, to dehumanize and humiliate them, and by extention, us. It is a word that the Ku Klux Klan used, as well as other Caucasians, when they hung and lynched many of our people.  In addition,  what was sad and most disturbing for me was watching a Black Attorney try to defend using such a word. I would have expected that type of nonsense from the less " educated " amongst us, but not from an Attorney, who the correct usage of words. Words have meanings and you can't change their meanings. There are other words that have the meaning of endearment, why not use them ? I heard someone say that by speaking out against such usage we give the word power. That is utter nonsense. What gives this word power is using it at all. I don't use it, nor do I allow my children to use it, all of whom are now grown. If we don't want our races to call us by that word we stop using it ourselves-period. Finally, I'd like to suggest two ver important books for everyone on this board to read. Both written by Caucasians: (1) " Two Nations: Black, White, Hostile, Separate, and Unequal " by Dr. Andrew Hacker and (2) " The Heart Of Whiteness: Confronting Race, Racism, and White Privilege " by Robert Jensen . Both of these books go to the heart of racism-white supremacy and bring clarity to the discussion of Racism and might clear up the use of such a word; that is,  if  we bring integrity  to this discussion.
 
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