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This two-syllable expression is arguably the most divisive word in society. Dr. Phil tackles this touchy topic with help from a panel of outspoken luminaries: civil rights activist Rev. Al Sharpton; legendary comedian and writer Paul Mooney; CSI actor and author Hill Harper; comedian Sheryl Underwood and conservative radio talk show host Michael Graham. First, is there a double standard that allows African-Americans to use this sensitive word, while non-blacks are forbidden? The debate heats up when Rachel, a white guest, says she calls her husband the N-word all the time. Then, should hip-hop artists be censored or fined for using the N-word in their songs? Becky says rappers promote negative stereotypes with their lyrics, but find out who Rev. Al Sharpton thinks should face the music. Plus, does tone or intent make a difference when using the N-word? See what Dr. Phil thinks and share your thoughts here.

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September 12, 2008, 8:12 am PDT

09/12 The N-Word Debate

Quote From: nlambert21

Let me start off by saying that I am not a racist person, however the black people are always talking about equal rights and what not, so let me ask something why is it alright that the black people have their own black entertainment channel on tv, they have their own black beauty pageants, their own black college foundations etc..   If we started making white only channels, college foundations, pageants and stuff we would be considered racist and not treating blacks and whites equally so why is it alright for them to. It seems to me that the blacks are what is racist now days. Also what is up with calling blacks "african americans" and not calling whites "caucasian". African blacks are completely different from the blacks here in the US. They are very kind and very appreciative of what they have and receive as gifts where as MOST of the blacks here think that everything is owed to them because of what has happened in the past. Let it go. I think that the persons character and behavior and actions is what makes them a N, whether they are white,black, brown, blue. Blacks also have the highest percentage of people in jail and the highest number who is on welfare, so maybe once they start contributing to society instead of take, take take, then that is when society will start looking at them as someone who contributes instead of always taking. It just annoys me for black people to say that we are the ones who are racist when I think that it is the other way around.
     I see your point.  But understand where all of this comes from.  Each of the negative words that where mentioned came from hatred from the other.  Not saying that it is right but we(people) need to overlook those people.  Let me give you an example  of a form of racism that I deal with at work.  There is a guy that I am over at work who thinks I shouldn't have my positiion because I am black. "They need to know their place" Is how he feels about black people.  I deal with his attitude daily. But because of him I don't hate white people but it is sad that people like that still exist.  But the crazy part about the whole situation that if i was to write him up he would think that i did that because i don't like white people which would be untrue.
 
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September 12, 2008, 8:13 am PDT

THE N-WORD

I WATCHED YOUR SHOW TODAY.  JUST 'GET OVER IT' WON'T DO.  I WAS BORN A DOUBLE HAIR LIP AND DOUBLE CLEFT PALATE.  YOU NEVER GET OVER IT.  YOU LEARN TO LIVE WITH IT AND TRY TO MAKE PEOPLE ACCEPT YOU FOR THE WAY YOU ARE.  WHY PEOPLE LET WORDS GET IN THEIR WAY, I DON'T KNOW.  IF I LET WORDS HURT ME, I WOULD BE HURT TODAY AT THE AGE OF 63.  I TAKE EVERY HURT AND MAKE IT A POSSITIVE IF I CAN.  IF NOT, I JUST GO ON.  WHAT MORE CAN I SAY.  IF PEOPLE LET WORDS RULE, I JUST KEEP AWAY AND GO ON BEING KIND TO ALL PEOPLES.  IT USUALLY ISN'T PEOPLES THAT UPSET OTHERS.  IT'S THEIR ACTIONS.

 

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September 12, 2008, 8:13 am PDT

09/12 The N-Word Debate

Quote From: razzberryrose

As soon as blacks stop referring to whites as honkies, crackers, rednecks, etc., then they'll get the same respect in return.  Until then, you reap what you sow.
 We can't go through a viciuos cycle of "when they stop, we'll stop." Someone must be the bigger person and stop. it sounds as if you may use the word because others use inappropriate terms for whites. Is this correct? I'd just like to say, we can't be moved by what others say as it begins with the person in the mirror. Once we stop using derogatory terms, then perhaps we can encourage someone else to do the same and then it will be a cycle of respecting each other.
 
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September 12, 2008, 8:14 am PDT

n-word debate

Paul Mooney is one of the biggest hypocrytes I have ever seen.  He is saying that he has had it so hard and he was a captured african american.  That's the dumbest thing I have ever heard, he wasn't captured he is from america.  He needs to shut up.  Black people are some of the biggest racits ever.  He is saying how hard black people have it.  If you take a civil service exam you obtain extra points which raise your score if you are a "minority"  Tell me how that is fair?  If you live in america now you have the same rights as everyone else.  Slavery ended a long time ago so get over it and stop making excuses.  If you look at the news you see mostly black people on it because that's how it is.  You say you want to be treated equal well then start holding yourself up to a higher standard than you are now.  If you think that "white" people are holding you back because they aren't allowing you to do something your an idiot.  Me calling you the N-word is the same thing as a black person calling someone a cracker.  Tell me how its fair for a black person to call someone the n-word but no one else is allowed to.  If you want to call yourself that then you are just giving everyone else the right to use it.  There is a huge difference between black people and the n-word.  It's all how you display yourself.  Paul mooney needs to take a good look at himself considering he said he used to use the word all the time in his act, what is he a born again black person?  I'm not saying one race is better than the other but how about you have an equal number of each race on the debaters.  So all of the people who get offended by it need to shut up take a look at yourself and evaluate on how you up hold yourself.  Slavery was over a long time ago.  Also isn't mooney being a racist saying "the white doll is the serial killer and the white doll is the one who will go to the mall and shoot everyone" "he learned from the best the white people" he needs to shut the f*** up and get over it!
 
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September 12, 2008, 8:15 am PDT

I agree with nlambert21!

I don't consider myself a racist at all but I totally agree that I think it is absurd that black americans have the right to segregate themselves with the Miss Black USA pagent and Black Networks and etc., yet I as a white american don't have those same liberties without being a racist.  I feel horrible about slavery as well as I feel equally horrible about the holocaust but I as a 40 year old female had no hand in any of that hatred!  I think it is a crutch for todays black americans, just like the black comedian on the show today to get irrate and tell a lady in the audience that he was dragged here as a slave......no he wasn't, his ancestors were and even though that was horrible it did not happen to him!!!  And if he were dragged here he has the freedom to go wherever he wishes unlike his ancestors.  I hate to use the term get over it, but you don't hear the Jewish community constantly crying racism everytime something happens to one of them that they don't agree with ro don't feel is fair.  I believe that as a white american both races have less than desirable members, there is white trash and black trash.  I don't think it is right for black americans to think it is OK for them to call each other the N word and then be offended when a white person calls them that....that is a double standard that they have created.  If you want others to respect you, respect yourself.  But the bottom line with my feelings are this, I get tired of hearing about how they are so unfairly treated....seems to me they have more opportunities than most by being a minority.  Spend more time teaching the next generation to respect themselves and less time teaching them to use the past as a excuse to expect everything to be handed to them because of their race.  Just my opinions.
 
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September 12, 2008, 8:15 am PDT

It is what it is

Yes there is a double standard with the n word. Why? I will never know why Black people began saying the word among ourselves, but I do know that historically whenever a White person uses the word, it is in a derogatory manner. Thats why we get upset to hear other races use this word, coming from another race, especially from a person you don't know, begins an internal dialouge: "Did they just say that? What was the meaning behind it? Are they joking or are they being mean?" See, some Black people will always question the motives behind other races using the n word because we will always wonder if there is an underlying meaning to it. As far as other races using it as a term of endearment, here's a question: Do you also call your friends and family b*****s, sl*ts, h**kers, and h**s as terms of endearment as well? These words are just as inflammatory as the n word, especially for women. What are your views on these words?

 
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September 12, 2008, 8:16 am PDT

09/12 The N-Word Debate

I'm a 22 year old african american male and my view on the n word is that it should never be used no matter the race sex gender. Its a word that has hurt the african race for years and I feel that we as americans cannot and will not move forward until this word is buried.
 
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September 12, 2008, 8:16 am PDT

9/12/08-Today's Topic

I just thought that I would weigh in on the topic of discussion for today.  Well to start, most of the panel and audience was rather fired up by this topic.  I grew up in a house where the "N" word was seldom used, I am married, and have three children and am currently trying to start a business.  Seems to me like we should all find a way to deal with this word in a way that suits everybody.  I DO NOT use that word for any reason, my children were taught never to use it, and when I bring this topic up to them they act like "Duh Mom why would I?"  I feel like we are putting to much emphasis on this particular word and not really enough on the real issues at hand.  If it is offensive, or derogatory why use it at all.  Why can't we as a society sit back and say, "Hey we HAVE come a long way, why throw it all away?"  What you use in your own house is your business, what you put out there for the whole world to see is totally different.  Now here is another question to think about, "Does it even matter to anyone out there given my opinion here, what race I am?"  We have so much to be concerned about as individuals as well as a society, why can't we just say no to the word.  I'm not saying take it out of the history books, or to take it away from one's heritage, just realize that we live in a different time. If it wasn't said, it wouldn't be taught, and in turn wouldn't be used.  Period.
 
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September 12, 2008, 8:17 am PDT

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Just got done watching the Dr. Phil show and I have to say that I am touched deeply.  Never in my adult life ever seen the reaction for the N word.  I truly feel sorry for the people that think this word is ok to use. No matter if it's in thier private or public life.  I grew up in an mostly black neighborhood where this word would never be stood for by anyone.  I myself don't feel it's okay for anyone to use it. I had a very hard time with this word due to the fact that my stepfather at the time was a racist.  So I got to see first hand how this word could hurt so may people.  Our society today should learn to grow up and realize that no matter what life style you have, or where you come from this word is the most disgrading word in our language.  I don't care how you put it.  So grow up AMERICA we are all human beings with hearts and minds just like you.
 
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September 12, 2008, 8:18 am PDT

09/12 The N-Word Debate

Quote From: slzucker

actually, youre the definition of racism in america today.
yeah, that person really is.
 
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