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Topic : 09/12 The N-Word Debate

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This two-syllable expression is arguably the most divisive word in society. Dr. Phil tackles this touchy topic with help from a panel of outspoken luminaries: civil rights activist Rev. Al Sharpton; legendary comedian and writer Paul Mooney; CSI actor and author Hill Harper; comedian Sheryl Underwood and conservative radio talk show host Michael Graham. First, is there a double standard that allows African-Americans to use this sensitive word, while non-blacks are forbidden? The debate heats up when Rachel, a white guest, says she calls her husband the N-word all the time. Then, should hip-hop artists be censored or fined for using the N-word in their songs? Becky says rappers promote negative stereotypes with their lyrics, but find out who Rev. Al Sharpton thinks should face the music. Plus, does tone or intent make a difference when using the N-word? See what Dr. Phil thinks and share your thoughts here.

Find out what happened on the show.

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September 12, 2008, 12:15 pm PDT

it isnt cool either way

its isnt right for african americans to say the n word all the time amongst themselves and think its cool.  but here where i live a white person cannot go around and say the n word for risk of getting beat up.  why should they think its ok for them but not for a white person. racism should of died back in the day like it was supposed to have done. i think if your amongst friends both black and white and it is said not having a racist motivation why isnt that ok.  now id understand if it was said out of hate yeh then its wrong but either its ok or its  not dont make it a double standard.
 
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September 12, 2008, 12:19 pm PDT

Respect

Let's just keep this really simple and treat everyone like we'd like to be treated.  If we can just get down to the basics and stop name calling then the "N" word would not even be a factor.  Respect those with whom you speak and respect yourself by not using degrading names.  When we can get beyond the name calling and start treating each other with some respect and dignity maybe we'll even see a drop in crime and murder rates, which is a different but more improtant topic.

 

 

 
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September 12, 2008, 12:20 pm PDT

LIVE IN THE PRESENT NOT THE PAST

All races have gone through really bad times to get where they are now, BUT THAT WAS THE PAST. I am so sick and tired of hearing how the blacks have been so wronged and the whole world owes them something because they are black. If you want to be equal then act like it and stop expecting the world to kiss your ass because your black. You were treated wrong hundreds of years ago but acting the way you do is only making yourself look bad. Blacks or anyone else should not be treated differently and that includes by themselves. Name calling by any one is wrong including to others of your own race and to even call members of your race a name like this is nothing but totally ignorant!

 
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September 12, 2008, 12:26 pm PDT

What about the B-WORD, W-WORD, SL-WORD

Guess what? Not only most every man and woman of every race KNOW what the B-WORD, W-WORD, S-WORD are. Quite a few of us ladies know hurts every bit as much as the N-WORD. How hypocritical for anyone up in arms about the N-WORD to not be up in arms about the B-WORD, W-WORD, SL-WORD to insult women.

My mother made me walk home one day for saying the SH word and I deserved to. Yet, now... commonly uttered with no remorse or regrets and because a freedom of speech. When our freedoms begin to imprison us (one, some or many)... how free are we?

EVERY RACE AND BOTH GENDERS USE THE N-WORD... and often not just for race historically first used to insult. Now, too, as per Dr. Phil Transcript I read reads, as a form of "terms of endearment." Terms of Endearment!

I actually feel inhibited to say "Ho Ho Ho" at Christmas and I don't think I'm alone in feeling that word tarnished by rappers et al.

I'm a SURVIVOR of abuse by not just one man. Yet, now women have gutter mouths as well. Gutter meaning, and I have eye witness account, that you ONLY use to see in gutters on written on bathroom stalls. Where I skated there was a sign "No profanity allowed" that they stood by. Most of the 2nd class citizen discrimination I"ve heard persons of "minorities" relate I've received. Received not due to any pigment reason and due to economic disadvantage... Nobody wants to catch being poor.

ANSWER and SOLUTION: Parents cannot teach what they have not learned and so the cycles continue and like a cancer grow until you'd be hard pressed to see a "No Profanity" sign.

We need EMOTIONAL AND LIFE SKILL EDUCATION K-12 (daily classes). All those 4 year graduates in psychology and sociology et al just need a teaching certificate. Ideally classes run by a man and woman getting along with mutual respect. Age related topics from learning to say NO to stranger danger (that exists all our lives) to pushy car salesman that see their commission more than best interests of customer. Role playing and field trips to Rehabs. Day Care on sight to show how demanding as a mandatory class for both genders. Well, Clinton Administration thought this idea a good idea and sent me contact information of every State Department of Education etc. under U.S. Jurisdiction. I didn't have the wherewithal to begin yet Dr. Phil, Jay, Robin and their colleagues DO.

All three words in topic line were said to me as a teen before a rapist hit me in the face. Ted Bundy said pornographic magazines get men worked up and they do this because need a sexual outlet to essentially finish off fantasy from being teased by a magazine! So, essentially, many women are raped by proxy and catalyst for the rape are magazines. Just like much of the catalyst for the every declining English language lost in a maze of profanity thanks to hip hop, rap and Hollywood pushing the envelope. Why did President Carter back down with muzzle he had for entertainment industry? Because Playboy had his subscription to wag in front of him that he has since apologized for having. However, then that subscription muted a President so mum would be the word to not expose.

At five years old, a six year old pulled a hunting knife on me demanding I disrobe to see if I looked like his dad's centerfold or he'd kill my brother's hamster. Folks, there aren't just dirty old men and women there are young persons looking up for someone to be a Hero and set a shining example. So, excuse me, if I don't thank Playboy and Hustler for leading men and even young six year olds to see women as objects, such as myself. Excuse me if I think it is not freedom of speech to drudge gutter language up from the gutters in a pseudo freedom of speech that imprisons and hurts others whether the N-WORD, B-WORD, W-WORD, or SL-WORD...

It isn't innocent nor freedom of speech when infringes on the rights of others. It is good old fashioned gutter talk from a lack of self-control and no clear boundaries. I'm glad both my parents didn't look at gutter language as freedom of speech and as something to avoid by taking the higher ground. In John Steinbeck's "Grapes of Wrath" had poor persons cursing in a way to depict being uneducated and not learning better. Now, most know better, yet cheapen America and Americans talking gutter language trash and not just the N-WORD. That's just the tip of the iceberg. Women are still enslaved by the B-WORD, W-WORD, SL-WORD. And it's hard to believe in Santa anymore with "HO, HO, HO..." So my burning question to all those up in arms about the N-WORD is. Do they use the B-WORD, W-WORD, SL-WORD? Those words hurt too and I have the dental work to prove it.


www.aadainc.org/Statistics.htm

"National Statistics

95% of batterers are men.

A woman is battered at least once every 15 seconds in the U.S.

Battering is the single largest cause of injury to women in the U.S.
3 to 4 million are beaten in their homes each year. (Battering is severely underreported. This number accounts for only those cases of assault severe enough to warrant police or medical intervention. Many cases are not reported.)

25 to 45% of battered women are battered during pregnancy.

Profile of the Abused Woman

Any woman can be abused; she can be of any race, religion, economic status, educational background, or age. She can be married, divorced, or may never have been married.

Battered women have low self-esteem, low self-confidence. They feel helpless, fearful, and shameful. They may have confused feelings of love and loyalty towards the batterer.

Battered women may be prevented from planning or acting on their own behalf due to control and fear.

Battered women often feel they can control the abuser by trying to please him or avoid getting him angry with them.

A battered woman may have injuries to the head, face, neck, shoulders, and arms. In pregnancy, the breast and abdomen are often targets of assault.

Profile of the Batterer

At least 60% of men who batter grew up in homes where they were beaten or witnessed parental battering.

Men who batter use threats, force, or violence to solve problems or violence to solve problems or control their partners;

Have low self-esteem;

Often have a problem with alcohol/drugs;

May be jealous of their partners' relationships with other people;

Blame their partners for their violent actions.

Statistics

Every day, 4 women are murdered by boyfriends or husbands.

Prison terms for killing husbands are twice as long as for killing wives.

93% of women who killed their mates had been battered by them.

67% killed them to protect themselves and their children at the moment of murder.

25% of all crime is wife assault.

70% of men who batter their partners either sexually or physically abuse their children.

Domestic violence is the number one cause of emergency room visits by women.

73% of the battered women seeking emergency medical services have already separated from the abuser.

Women are most likely to be killed when attempting to leave the abuser. In fact, they're at a 75% higher risk than those who stay.

The number-one cause of women's injuries is abuse at home. This abuse happens more often than car accidents, mugging, and rape combined.

Up to 37% of all women experience battering. This is an estimated 566,000 women in Minnesota alone.

Battering often occurs during pregnancy. One study found that 37% of pregnant women, across all class, race, and educational lines, were physically abused during pregnancy.

60% of all battered women are beaten while they are pregnant.

34% of the female homicide victims over age 15 are killed by their husbands, ex-husbands, or boyfriends.

2/3 of all marriages will experience domestic violence at least once.

Weapons are used in 30% of domestic violence incidents.

Approximately 1,155,600 adult American women have been victims of one or more forcible rapes by their husbands.

Over 90% of murder-suicides involving couples are perpetrated by the man. 19-26% of male spouse-murderers committed suicide.

When only spouse abuse was considered, divorced or separated men committed 79% of the assaults and husbands committed 21%.

Abusive husbands and lovers harass 74% of employed battered women at work, either in person or over the telephone, causing 20% to lose their jobs.

Physical violence in dating relationships ranges from 20-35%.

It is estimated that between 20% to 52% of high school and college age dating couples have engaged in physical abuse.

More than 50% of child abductions result from domestic violence.

Injuries that battered women receive are at least as serious as injuries suffered in 90% of violent felony crimes.

In 1991, only 17 states kept data on reported domestic violence offenses. These reports were limited to murder, rape, robbery, and serious bodily injury.

More than half of battered women stay with their batterer because they do not feel that they can support themselves and their children alone.

In homes where domestic violence occurs, children are abused at a rate 1,500% higher than the national average.

Up to 64% of hospitalized female psychiatric patients have histories of being physically abused as adults.

50% of the homeless women and children in the U.S. are fleeing abuse.

The amount spent to shelter animals is three times the amount spent to provide emergency shelter to women from domestic abuse situations.

Family violence kills as many women every 5 years as the total number of Americans who died in the Vietnam War."
 
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September 12, 2008, 12:28 pm PDT

The "N" word

Where I grew up there was a big difference between a "N" and a black person.  I was also told all my life that a "N" could come in all different races...weather white, black, mexican, etc.  A "N" is a person who causes nothing but trouble...always committing crimes, etc.  A black person is someone who is nice and someone you can stand to be around.  The problem that I fine is that "N" can call white people "CRACKERS" but when we respond with the "N" word they want to get offensive, and gang up on you and fight.  That MOONEY guy was the most racist person on the whole show.  I don't know what he was trying to prove.  All he did was make himself look like an idiot!!    Should the word be said?  I don't think that it should.  But if white people can't say the "N" word, then africian americans should be able to say "CRACKER!!!"
 
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September 12, 2008, 12:28 pm PDT

Give me a break!

Yes i understand what African Americans went through, however, they use it when communication among themselves.  Im a latina and we dont go crazy when people call us names.  I seriously think we need to be sensitive to people feelings and if it offends one person we need to be sensitive to that.  All races have a history, all races have slavery involved at some point.  Lets just all be sensitve and move on.  People are constantly getting in trouble for using the N word but why dont we see that when other races are being called names. 

There are other things in this world to worry about ...instead of putting all this energy into...a name someone called you.  Dont we teach our children to ignore these things...we should do the same as adults.

 

 
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September 12, 2008, 12:29 pm PDT

Reverse "N" word

Dr. Phil and viewers- I cannot tell you how many of my friends resort to using this word after a person of color uses many racist slurs against them.  Irish, white and all the things that go along with racism towards white people come out of young people's mouths.  The retort is "If they want to go there, I'm going there too."  Which I don't find a reason or justification, but I do agree that if these civil rights activists want things really to change then they must first realize that there are many black citizens who are racist or use racial slurs against white people before race has even been brought up.  The word will never die, as none will about any other race, this just happens to be the most used word.  And saying that a racial slur towards white people doesn't hurt, is just wrong, there is history there because it either stemmed from racism long ago, or it stemmed from anger towards that race.  NO racial slur should be used, I think this debate should be about more than a single word, it should encompass all racial slurs/words because they are all more widely used than anyone would like to think.  If you don't believe me, spend an hour on Xbox Live and tell me otherwise (and these are young kids too).
 
 

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September 12, 2008, 12:35 pm PDT

Who Can Use It???

Young black people think about it...While I understand that it has become a term of endearment (I used to use it as a teen) and you say that it doesn't mean the same as it did and doesn't have the same negative power. If that be the case, then ANYONE should be able to use it, right???? - if it doesn't have the same negative meaning. If you use the word because you feel like you are not one then why do you get offended when a white person says it?? C'mon my folks, you can't have it both ways. It's time to grow up and wake up!

 
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September 12, 2008, 12:37 pm PDT

Not right

I don't care who says it. Words like that shouldn't be said by anyone whether they are black, white , brown, yellow or red. Words like that were born out of hatred and ignorance and they promote nothing but more hate and ignorance. We are a country that pulls together whenever we are attacked by the outside world and what people don't realize is that there is a war going on at home that needs to stop first. 
 
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September 12, 2008, 12:37 pm PDT

I agree

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This topic is seriously annoying. There were thriving slave markets in Africa long before Europeans ever got there, to this day slavery is alive and well in Africa. Europeans didn't invent it, but we did decide it was disgusting, immoral, and outlawed it. In most of the world women are still enslaved why isn't anyone angry about that? The first slaves in the new world were 'white' but they kept dropping dead in the heat. Every single people on this planet have taken advantage and abused some other group. We've all been slaves at one time. It is time to stop whining and pointing  fingers and get on  with it. We need to put this energy into the planet because without her none of this stuff matters. My mother always told me if you cannot say anything nice do not say anything at all. This advice encompasses the "N-word."
I completely agree. Slavery was a long time ago. Why are the white people paying for something our ancestors did along time ago, that was then..this is now. Every race has been racist towards one another. People need to get over it. Yes words do hurt at time..but its just a word. Im white and I dont use that word. And im not going to raise my daughter or my unborn son to be that way. Color of skin doesnt matter. Stop blaming every other race for racism. Black people are just as racist as any other race. There is a big difference between the N-word and black. Some people are not aware of this. They just assume that N-word associates to a black person. So not true. The N word is  never going to go away. Although we can teach our children and there children that its not a very kind word to say. But we have freedom of speech, the N-word will continued to be used whether anyone likes it or not. You can take it as a racial comment or just let it go. Its up to you!!
 
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