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Topic : 09/12 The N-Word Debate

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This two-syllable expression is arguably the most divisive word in society. Dr. Phil tackles this touchy topic with help from a panel of outspoken luminaries: civil rights activist Rev. Al Sharpton; legendary comedian and writer Paul Mooney; CSI actor and author Hill Harper; comedian Sheryl Underwood and conservative radio talk show host Michael Graham. First, is there a double standard that allows African-Americans to use this sensitive word, while non-blacks are forbidden? The debate heats up when Rachel, a white guest, says she calls her husband the N-word all the time. Then, should hip-hop artists be censored or fined for using the N-word in their songs? Becky says rappers promote negative stereotypes with their lyrics, but find out who Rev. Al Sharpton thinks should face the music. Plus, does tone or intent make a difference when using the N-word? See what Dr. Phil thinks and share your thoughts here.

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September 12, 2008, 8:19 am PDT

Double messages

I am a white 44 year old woman.  I grew up in metro/NYC area.  I just say the first line to tell you when I was growing up in the late 60's and early 70's in my household I received double messages.

 

My momma grew up in Alabama and when she was 3 years old an African American woman saved her life.  My momma had whopping cough and the woman who lived next door ran out in the back yard and plucked a chicken feather and aided my grandma and cleaned my mom-ma's throat out  saving her breath.  My momma never allowed prejudice in our home.

 

My father is another story.  An African American man came into our home when I was 5-6.  I addressed him as Mr. D........ I loved that man.  I sat all day and watched him craft our new cabinets and all day long I said Mr. D.....would you like some water?  How is that done  etc?  He answered me very kindly and lovingly.  When my father gave him the check for his day of working I said  Goodbye Mr. D.....Thank you....I was really sad to see him go....As he left our driveway My father looked down at me and said he was a F  ING N!~  I couldn't believe it.  It was like a bolt of bad lighting go through me.  I didn't understand why why he just said such a terrible thing about such a nice man.

 

Starting at an early age too my father said DON'T YOU EVER bring home a black boyfriend either or I will disown you....Why would he even try to program my mind like this? 

 

My father did a lot of toxic things in my family of origin.  Double messages to children are poison and to this day I do not say the N  word.  It's ugly and it's poisonous!

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September 12, 2008, 8:21 am PDT

paul

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i feel that it's the people like Paul Mooney that keeps racism going.  He needs to get rid of the hatred in his heart!!!!
And so do america...
 
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September 12, 2008, 8:21 am PDT

power of the word N*****

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I amthe veryproud white Nana of 7 Grandkids, 2 half Spanish, 2 half black and 3 white... I love them all without regard of color..they are all the same to me...my 2 half black Grandkids used to say the N word at my home

but no more!!! I told them if I, or anyone else cant say it then they cant either...( I never used the word anyway) I asked them how I could let them say it but the other kids couldnt....so I put a big stop to that.

The other day a black friend of my daughters was here and he said the N word, my Grands told him very nicley that that word wasnt allowed at nana's house, he was very nice and said he was sorry....if everyone would put a stop to this hidious word...( blacks, white or anyone) things would just get a little bit nicer.....

signed....The proud Nana of a colorful but beautiful family!!!

the power of this word (that everyone thinks is so taboo) comes from people that feel the way you do

if you would have told your half black grand kids that everyone in this great and (sometimes) free country has a right to say it then they would be much better equiped to deal with the world in stead you have them living in this make believe land of nanas house where the word doesnt exist so when they do get to the real world the word will have way more power than it would have if they had grown up with the word in their daily life

 
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September 12, 2008, 8:25 am PDT

Idle Words

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What is the exact scripture that addresses name calling? 
Read Matthew 12:36-37 in the Bible !
 
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September 12, 2008, 8:26 am PDT

Boils Down To Respect!

I agree with Julius022.  Great Message!  I feel it boils down to respect.  I don't use the N word or the F word.  It is disrespectful to the people around you.  It doesn't matter if you are white or black.  We are American's! We are not African Americans, or German Americans, or Asian Americans.  WE ARE AMERICANS!!!!  We need to act like it by respecting each other enough to use the English language the way it was intended.  The English language has many descriptive words that we can use to show affection and friendship.  Why use a word that can be hurtful???  We need to quit feeling sorry for ourselves because of our background and ancestry and move on.  We all should learn from history, and respect it -not dwell on it.  Everyone has had hardships in their lives and God didn't want us dwelling on it.  He expects us to live every single day loving and respecting our neightbors.  Again, I say it all boils down to respect.  If we all respect each other enough not to use this word-we wouldn't be having this discussion.  We would be talking about improving our country for our children and grandchildren. 
 
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September 12, 2008, 8:28 am PDT

the 'n' word

i have to say that this is one of may favorite shows in a while. I think that part of resolving an issue is having open dialog about an issue like on today's show.  I would like to say that the colorful panel brought a lot of underlining issues to the surface,  I would mostly just like to say as far as that word is concerned, NOBODY should be able to say it.  Sine that word is so full of history and hatred, why is everybody, black and non black in such a hurry to use it????!!!! i would have to also comment that the white lady who had the nerve and ignorance to say that she uses the word all the time to her husband and feels that there is no problem, made me sick to my stomach.  And the fact that she followed that statement with she feels like she has to walk on egg shells is clear evidence that she is a full out racist. And what we have to realize is that racism is not what it use to be.  People in the deep south that are married to there cousins have historically been the face of racist.  But we need to take a closer look at the issue.. society no longer warrants that racist carry Confederate flags.  Its is the gentle nuisances that creep into consciousness from the media that make white people think that its OK to treat all black less than fairly. And a person can still be a racist just thinking these thoughts,so you birth idiots like that young lady.  a good rule of thumb would be to not speak of things that you don't understand. so this is for the lady that said that black people should get over it. i completely support almost everything that Paul Mooney said, and i fear that some of America may have messed the message for  the messenger's delivery.  Paul Mooney  comes off so angry because white people JUST DON"T GET IT. i would think it would be very difficult to find a white person that changes their voice when they interview for a job or have to change their name to a more traditionally white name job they could get a freaking job just so that they can fit in to the box that white people have preset as what a "good" black person should act like, move like, look like.  its all so demoralizing  Its the double conciseness that W.E.B DuBois spoke of in the Souls of Black Folks.  And that is something a white person has never had to go through therefore would never understand.  I was really outraged by devalue that some of the audience members placed on the word. But that all i have to say.  I was so fired up i had to say something
 
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September 12, 2008, 8:29 am PDT

The "N" Word

Where do I start...I am going to school to be a social worker, so I tend to fall on the "liberal" side of topics like this. Needless to say, this is not an exception. I 100% agree with the fact that this word should not be used. One woman on the show said, "If I can use it without it being racist..." This is IMPOSSIBLE considering the fact that this is a racially charged and created word. And telling a man whose ancestors were forced to come from Africa to here, to get over it...is a moronic statement and a racist statement. And the Mexican woman on the show who said that, I am sure would not appreciate being called a S**c. Whether she came here by choice or not. And for an educated man to say that institutional racism does not exist, makes him look horrible. I am from Flint, Michigan. I grew up in a racially and ethnically diverse area. You understand that everyone works just as hard and still get screwed over by the system. A perfect example of institutional racism is when Proposal 2 in Michigan was passed making it illegal for any form of affirmative action to be used and also outlawed the use of scholarships targeted at minorities. This should never have been passed. Institutional racism is the fact that inner city schools are underfunded and populated mainly by minorities and they don't get the proper education that they deserve. And for the white woman in the audience who called a black man racist, does not know the definition of "racist". African and Black Americans do not have the power to be racist and oppress white people or any other ethnicity. I am very disappointed in the white culture...and for those of you who think I am a black person spouting off my beliefs...Im WHITE.
 
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September 12, 2008, 8:31 am PDT

09/12 The N-Word Debate

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Dr. Phil, I'm a 59year old black female. My mother was half white, father was black.Grandmother on my mother's side was white and grandfather was black. I was taught to respect everyone and to treat pl. as I would want to be treated.I went to school with white and black and I did not experience racism at all.

I do not like the N word, I feel that it is degrading. I would never use that word or any other word that would afend someone. In some of your old dictionaries it had the N word in it, and it meant, vulgar, nasty,and uncoof. Looked in my newer dictionary and it is not in there. Thank God they took it out! If you look in the Bible, it says that every idle word will be judged.When I stand befor the Master, I want Him to be very please with me, and say well done my good and faithful servant !It's all about loving your neighbor as you love youself.  Thank you!

 

Mrs. A. Webb

Couldn't agree more!!!!!   God Bless
 
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September 12, 2008, 8:32 am PDT

You can not be serious. Okay my opinion I do not in anyway agree with you nor is it the other way around.If a black person wants to use the word toward one another its okay to me. A black person saying it to another black person isn't harmful nor hurtful.

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It seems to me that when there is conflict with an African American and a white person that the white person gets attacked that they are racist. Could it be the other way around? Just wondering if anyone else feels this way?
 
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September 12, 2008, 8:33 am PDT

N-Word Debate

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I don't use the N word, the B word or the C word out of respect.  But, I think that the people who use this

are just hateful people.  If you take those words from everyone, the hateful people will find a word or words that are just as hurtful.  It is not the word but the attitude for other people that is the actual problem.

 

 

I don't use the N word.  Don't think anyone should.  My question is when do we get to the point that we are "forgiven" for the sins of our ancestors.  I'm helping my kids fill out college applications and scholarship applications.   The ACT scores and grade point averages that caucasions have to have compared to minorities (for scholarships)  is alarming.  My son could have had a full ride if he were a "minority".  Define "prejudice" to me?  I feel as though we are continually "paying" for the sins of our forefathers.  When do we reach the point where we have paid our dues? 
 
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